Author Topic: (Archive) When Jacko Sayala & Didier Lacoste chose Adolphe Dominguez's side  (Read 380 times)

mvulusi96 on: May 14, 2018, 23:49

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from 33:24 min

Didier Lacoste sung his vocal of 13 Ans from Kibuisa Mpimpa, which Werrason deleted and let Adjani sing it.

Werrason and the Mpangi's were furious when they heard that Jacko Sayala was supporting Adolphe Dominguez. Because in their opinion he couldn't do that since Werrason and Jacko are mpangi's (from the same province). In the same video Patsho Panda reacts against Jacko Sayala. In this video Jacko claims that he tried to reconcile Werrason & Adolphe back in 1999 and that he went with Patsho Panda to Werrason's hotel. With Patsho reacted that he went to Werrason's hotel not for the reconcilation, but to ask Werrason if he could use his singers (Ferre, Lacoste, Adjani & Serge Mabiala) to record a zong-zing album with Werrason replying that he has to wait to let them perform at Bercy and then recording/release Kibuisa Mpimpa, but Jacko being impatient.

Btw how does that Mpangi-system of the ex'Bandundu-province work ? Because in the Kwilu-province and Kwango-province you got different tribes (Bayaka, Bambala, Bapende, Basuku, Bambuund, Bayanzi, Bachokwe, etc.). But they looks so united and it looks like they are all one tribe with them speaking Kikongo-Ya-l'Etat to communicate with eachother. There wasn't a province where tribes were so united like Bandundu. Did they created a platform during the colonisation to be very united? But what made them not to be close with their brothers of the Mayi Ndombe-province, which used to be in the Bandundu-province along with Kwilu and Kwango ? Is that because they are Anamongo's and more close to their brothers of Equateur? I remember comedian Yandi Mosi attacking Fally for not being from their province and being a mpangi, forgetting that Fally's roots are in Bandundu in the Mayi Ndombe area, like Bozi Boziana, Lita Bembo, etc.

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Paysan Congolais #1 on: May 15, 2018, 15:11

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Mai Ndombe was in Equateur. Mobutu is the one who put in Bandundu. And most of the people from Mai-Ndombe are culturally closer to people from Sout Equateur, as you said.

Thus mpangi stuff is more linked to political opportunism than a real unity... I don't like how Werra turned it into one of his main musical weapon.

Paysan Congolais #2 on: May 15, 2018, 15:13

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It's a shame how Adolphe and Tonya Tonya path to success was cut short by Koffi and Werra.

I forgot how Lacoste used to be handsome before he turned into a chubby boy ! Ah ah ah !

mvulusi96 #3 on: May 15, 2018, 17:29

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Mai Ndombe was in Equateur. Mobutu is the one who put in Bandundu. And most of the people from Mai-Ndombe are culturally closer to people from Sout Equateur, as you said.

Thus mpangi stuff is more linked to political opportunism than a real unity... I don't like how Werra turned it into one of his main musical weapon.

Are you sure ? Because in real they are also really united at universities, work, etc. But nobody was noticing it first. Always attacking Baluba's. People started noticing it only recently during the Werra-JB war, the moment when Gizenga became prime minister in 2006 and with Emeneya funeral.


Werrason just followed Tabu Ley path. Because back in 1965 African Fiesta split in two camps. Dr Nico on one side and Tabu Ley on the other one with for the first time ever tribalism entering in the Congolese music-scene with Baluba's being pro Dr-Nico and people coming from Bandungu pro Tabu Ley.

Yeah true that Mai Ndombe used to be in Equateur I just wachted the map, but that was during the colonisation. From 1960 it became part of the Leopoville-province and next to Kwilu, Kwango, Kinshasa and Kongo Central who were there already from the start (In 1909 it was more bigger having also Kasai, being called Congo-Kasai province). And from 1966 splitted the province in three (Bas Congo, Kinshasa and Bandundu).







mvulusi96 #4 on: May 15, 2018, 17:32

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It's a shame how Adolphe and Tonya Tonya path to success was cut short by Koffi and Werra.

I forgot how Lacoste used to be handsome before he turned into a chubby boy ! Ah ah ah !

He was stupid to use C4 to have that leader-weight. This reminds me the story of Mbuta Likasu hahahaha and then complaing in 2006 about that to JB Mpiana.

Paysan Congolais #5 on: May 15, 2018, 18:43

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Mai Ndombe was in Equateur. Mobutu is the one who put in Bandundu. And most of the people from Mai-Ndombe are culturally closer to people from Sout Equateur, as you said.

Thus mpangi stuff is more linked to political opportunism than a real unity... I don't like how Werra turned it into one of his main musical weapon.

Are you sure ? Because in real they are also really united at universities, work, etc. But nobody was noticing it first. Always attacking Baluba's. People started noticing it only recently during the Werra-JB war, the moment when Gizenga became prime minister in 2006 and with Emeneya funeral.


Werrason just followed Tabu Ley path. Because back in 1965 African Fiesta split in two camps. Dr Nico on one side and Tabu Ley on the other one with for the first time ever tribalism entering in the Congolese music-scene with Baluba's being pro Dr-Nico and people coming from Bandungu pro Tabu Ley.

Yeah true that Mai Ndombe used to be in Equateur I just wachted the map, but that was during the colonisation. From 1960 it became part of the Leopoville-province and next to Kwilu, Kwango, Kinshasa and Kongo Central who were there already from the start (In 1909 it was more bigger having also Kasai, being called Congo-Kasai province). And from 1966 splitted the province in three (Bas Congo, Kinshasa and Bandundu).








You're right about Tabul Ley, and we can say the same thing about the dislocation of Zaiko between Bakongo and "Bangala" (Gina, Evoloko and Wemba) but the tribalism was not that blatant like Werra did and to be honest, it was more "normal" back then. The mobutist "unité nationale" mantra was not there yet. Maybe it's more blatant because Werra brought it back to the forefront after years of silence.

One thin that explain political unity of Bandundu people is a sense of marginalization they felt in the early days of Mobutu power, since he was cracking down on mulelist. And a lot of members of the Bandundu elite were targeted. But I'm just speculating.

Yeah, you're right : in fact, in 66, some people asked that Mai Ndombe went back to Equateur but Mobutu refused. He put it in Bandundu.

mvulusi96 #6 on: May 15, 2018, 19:22

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That of Dr Nico vs Tabu Ley was really tribal with those wealthy businessmen, politicians from Kasai & Bandundu  behind those artists. That of Zaiko was not tribal and tribalism already dissapeard from the music-scene with everybody singing praise songs for Mobutu, MPR & Zaire.

During the time of Gizenga and PSA back in 1960 they were already a front.Maybe you are right about politics uniting them, because in 1956 they were behind Abako and didn’t have a party or something like that. I will ask my grandpa about that.