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archos #15 on: November 24, 2016, 00:20

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Re: ALAIN MAKABA REVEALS A BIT OF WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT HIM AND JB'S ZENITH
kaisari what used to happen was that werra was what he was in terms of money lol then the admins where sharing money between them and leaving peanuts to the group but the guys would get money in private more easily from jb or especially makaba who even wanted a clear written salary for the group members
the group was not as intact as he looked since in kin e bouger and kalayi boeing trips for example its some money given at last moment which saved the group
 so werra is alt faut or a scapegoat for the finances issues but they are equally at fault for their system of sharing almost 100 per cent of the money with them jb,werra,tata,blaise,masela,makaba with mbuta kiss or roger ngandu given absolute peanuts to distribute to simple members
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archos #16 on: November 24, 2016, 00:22

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Quote from: mrvibes on November 24, 2016, 00:15
Why doesnt just create a new wenge just for fun . i  really think he has nothing to lose anyway
he still got the stamina and all it takes to make a great group. take  aimelia, alain mpela and Titina if possible  with him . im pretty sure  JB will loose lot of musicians, especially those youngsters .. not to go against jb but someone needs to shake him(JB) very well ....

bana kin need to sign a petition requesting him to create a group as he really has the right .
having studio is good but as good as he is , he need to be on stage playing  good music ( rumba and good seben)..

indeed but he still is very disappointed with the post wenge 4X4 experience,i believe he'll only accept something where he is head and shoulders above the rest and no ego war
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archos #17 on: November 24, 2016, 00:24

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Quote from: mvulusi96 on November 23, 2016, 22:09
Mannn....  the journalist was very stupid to interrupt Alain (who talking about the improvisation album Pile-Ou-Face which was not really planned) and asking then questions about the Wenge-slipt, while e
verybody know what the reason was of the split.

Alain said that Pile Ou Face was recorded in Europe, while Wenge was in Zaire. But how did Titina, Ekokota & J.B. then participate to the album?
I think that things in Wenge BCBG would have been different, if Alain Makaba chosed to return along with BCBG to Kinshasa after the Titanic-tour. And that it would have been more difficult for J.B. to kick him and Blaise out from Wenge.

 wenge arrived when alain had started already,by the way werra and masela were unhappy that he started it without telling them and even less happy when he decided to use just ekokota titina and jb
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masatomo #18 on: November 24, 2016, 10:22

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Re: ALAIN MAKABA REVEALS A BIT OF WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT HIM AND JB'S ZENITH
What happened with Blaise Bula ? Did he already left BCBG before the Zenith concert ?
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EMOVICTEAM #19 on: November 24, 2016, 11:17

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Quote from: masatomo on November 24, 2016, 10:22
What happened with Blaise Bula ? Did he already left BCBG before the Zenith concert ?



Bula left after this concert in paris...
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EMOVICTEAM #20 on: November 24, 2016, 11:20

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Re: ALAIN MAKABA REVEALS A BIT OF WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT HIM AND JB'S ZENITH
Quote from: Ken Bilele on November 23, 2016, 17:58
And from that argument is how Kibens got his curse, his fortunes have since dwindled.  EMO you understand me?

You lost me on this one...
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mvulusi96 #21 on: November 24, 2016, 20:01

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Re: ALAIN MAKABA REVEALS A BIT OF WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT HIM AND JB'S ZENITH
Quote from: EMOVICTEAM on November 24, 2016, 11:17
Quote from: masatomo on November 24, 2016, 10:22
What happened with Blaise Bula ? Did he already left BCBG before the Zenith concert ?



Bula left after this concert in paris...

No man, thats actually Wenge BCBG's first official concert after the split. Blaise Bula's concert with BCBG was the new year's eve concert in Abidjan. He was then suspended by JB, after hearing that he attacked Fi-Carré with a beer bottle. It was the best moment for JB to get rid of him, who wanted it already during the tour in Canada. After that Blaise became serious ill and was even hospitalised, but no one of BCBG visited him at the hospital. So Blaise decided then to leave BCBG (who where busy with Zenith-show) and start the recording-sessions of Ponderation 8, with help from songwriter Eldorado, Koffi Olomide, ex' musicians from Shora Mbemba's band, etc. He became later in that era also a little bit close to Werra, who he dissed to much in interviews, when he was with BCBG. Werra was actually thinking by bringing him and Manda Chante to Bercy, to bring some Wengé-nostalgie to the show. But he changed then his mind.
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masatomo #22 on: November 24, 2016, 21:44

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Did he left BCBG in Europe or in Kinshasa ? It's crazy it seems like after the massive sucess of Titanic JB wanted to get rid of a lot of 4x4 guys. It's kind of hypocrite because they all followed and supported him after the split. It's the same for Werra with Adolphe and Masela.
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mvulusi96 #23 on: November 24, 2016, 21:47

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He left BCBG in Kinshasa. It was Mr Simon who gave Jb those idea's.
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archos #24 on: November 24, 2016, 21:55

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Exactly and he did the same trick as with clan zaiko and clan extra musica picking a guy he sees as THE leader pushing him to get rid of the rest and then deal only with him so more money for both sides
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CM PRINCE #25 on: November 24, 2016, 22:24

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Re: ALAIN MAKABA REVEALS A BIT OF WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT HIM AND JB'S ZENITH
Quote from: masatomo on November 24, 2016, 21:44
Did he left BCBG in Europe or in Kinshasa ? It's crazy it seems like after the massive sucess of Titanic JB wanted to get rid of a lot of 4x4 guys. It's kind of hypocrite because they all followed and supported him after the split. It's the same for Werra with Adolphe and Masela.
this is why I've been upset at jb and werra for dumping the people that stuck by them I don't like stuff like that
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CM PRINCE #26 on: November 24, 2016, 22:26

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Mr simon's a fool he's responsible for breaking up one of the greatest groups and ruining bcbg
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mrvibes #27 on: November 26, 2016, 23:10

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talking of makaba , i always wonder if dizoizo (pentagone ) was recorded  for differently  or was it meant to be in a group ablum prior pentagone or pile ou face. because  to me it does not sound like the other songs in the album especially when it  comes to the seben , this song  seben sound a bit old shchol wenge( kalayi boying or plein feux)  overloaded with shacker  and less mbonda  despite new cries that were added , even comete de l'an 2000 of patient kusanguila was more ndombished than  makaba's seben . or did he just wanted to make his song sound different


BY the way , do you guys think  BCBG would i succeed with makaba's slow style like in titanic .



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mvulusi96 #28 on: November 26, 2016, 23:36

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Quote from: mrvibes on November 26, 2016, 23:10
talking of makaba , i always wonder if dizoizo (pentagone ) was recorded  for differently  or was it meant to be in a group ablum prior pentagone or pile ou face. because  to me it does not sound like the other songs in the album especially when it  comes to the seben , this song  seben sound a bit old shchol wenge( kalayi boying or plein feux)  overloaded with shacker  and less mbonda  despite new cries that were added , even comete de l'an 2000 of patient kusanguila was more ndombished than  makaba's seben . or did he just wanted to make his song sound different


BY the way , do you guys think  BCBG would i succeed with makaba's slow style like in titanic .





In that time it was not about playing fast guitar, it was about to make the people dance and Makaba had already prove himself in the previous albums of Wenge as big solist and wanted after Anges Adorables, letting other solists Fi-Carre & Burkina Faso express them self. In Titanic he was more concentrated in the arrangement of the album along with Al Nzimbi and playing the bass-guitar along with Patient Kusangila and letting Burkina Faso express himself in that album, who had at time not a big yet as solist, despite his talent.

Makaba wanted his song letting sound different, like he did with Ce Trop Tard Djenga and the albums Pleins Feux & Pile Ou Face and  some songs in Feux de l'Amour by using programmed drums instead of Titina on the drums.
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BG-ground #29 on: November 27, 2016, 00:01

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Re: ALAIN MAKABA REVEALS A BIT OF WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT HIM AND JB'S ZENITH
Few Questions come in mind
1) we all know Blaise was the Vhief D'Orchestre at the beginning but then saw Mpela saying he got promoted to chief d'Orchestre in their first Canadian tour while both Alain and Blaise were still there..Why didn't they(Alain and Blaise) protested?

2)What was the thing Alain could've said to JB to make him cry? I know JB is very sensitive, but just out of curiosity...smthing about his mom or his dad he never met?

3)Is it true that it's thru Makaba that Wenge got Simon Production, Damien Dimonekene and even the Zenith contract?
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