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Pabloone71 #90 on: January 20, 2020, 19:40

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Does anyone have the covers or and the booklets of Les Marquis De Maison Mere - Miracles (2004) please ?

Mfumu Vata #91 on: January 22, 2020, 00:05

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Why did Adolphe block Papillion, Fiston, Chibida, Gianfranco and Spino La Djatence from having songs on Mouna? Was his plan to unsettle them or did their fallout result from a lack of payment?

 I remember Wenge and Quartier Latin were recieving cars and seeing a change in lifestyle after European tours. I remember you told me that Kester's band briefly broke apart because they got jealous of other bands for those reasons.


I think that Adolphe Dominguez did a 12 on them, to punish them, maybe they started to disrespect him during the tour (musicians often become big headed during Europe-tours) . It was already weird that he left Lady Miyembe (the guy who did Ferre's role in Affaire Tonya Tonya) in Kinshasa. There were already alot of problems during the tour. We will know the truth when on of them will do an interview to explain what went wrong during that tour. Didier Lacoste was also close to leave during the tour.

I don't thnik that it was about payment, because except performing at big halls like Zenith, Olympia, Bercy, musicians are mostly paid towards at  the end of the tour before returning to Kinshasa (that is the moment that creates alot of departure since the 80s). Sometimes leader don't want to share the money and were lying to their musicians that they would be paid in Kinshasa and while being in Kinshasa, they would ended up by not being paid, having a hard time the next 9, 10, 11 months or even 12 months (1 year) before returning back to Europe. In meantime giving their first vip concert at Cinemax or Grand Hotel Kinshasa with those flashy clothes and haircuts with the public and family, not knowing that they had nothing in their pocket. I remember Baby Ndombe, saying in an interview that they were furious at Werrason for not crediting them in press for the 3 buses the bought for the soccer clubs As Vita, Imana CS and Bilima (just a strategy to get some sympathy from the public, after being hated by alot of people for forcing Adolphe out from Maison Mere). Because before returning to Kinshasa, Werrason said that he wouldn't pay them, since that he bought with their money those buses, saying that it would be in their advantage. Some disagreed, but other accepted it (they were very naive at that time). On the end they all turned to be dissapointed after performing at Stade des Martyrs and presenting those buses with Werrason then getting all the credits from the public and the press, not knowing that some guys sacrified themselves for that.

There wasn't a change in lifestyle for musicians of Quartier Latin and Wenge after European tours, because they not paid when performing only on rare occasion (except in Quartier Latin were they were paid every month $100 and for concerts in African countries $300). The cars, expensive clothes they were showing on tv were to impress the population, but in reality they had nothing. They were suffering very hard and life for them became even worser, then before arriving in Europe.  Yes, they created relations in Europe where they could call to ask/beg for money, but that isn't fun to do on a monthly basis. If you have been in Europe, the whole family, all friends will be in your house to ask for money, while don't even have that much and you aren't paid well, plus you are forcer to still give a false impression on the streets and tv. That's why most musicians of those bands had sugamother (alot were married) who were in the 40's, 50's and 60's, sidechicks from rich families who were living in Gombe, Ma Campagne, Binza, Limete and Lemba, hoes who were selling their body, just in order to surive. Alot of guys started to become gay from the mid-2000s to get money from bankdirectors, influent politicians and businessmen. One famous leader is even married to a woman, who used to sell her body and feed him, when he used to be a musician of those bands. That woman is often praised on social media,but most people don't even know the truth about her past.

Yes, the musicians of Emeneya weren't about the way they weren't touring in Europe while musicians of Nouvelle Ecriture, Wenge BCBG, Quartier Latin and Wenge Maison Mere were going there every year and coming back with cars and expensive clothes. But that was not the reason of the split. One of the main reasons was that they already suffered very hard in Kenya where they spent 8 months, being abandoned by Emeneya who went to France, during that time they were left behind without money and had to fight for themselves. Go watch Passi Ngiangy, Sampaio, Guejo Star and Ade Lokela's interview with Ado Yuhe. The same thing with Guy Moller and Zoe who were also abandon by Emeneya in the USA before that Victoria arrived in Kenya having to sleep on the street for one day, spending months there in New York. Then they contacted Emeneya, with Emeneya giving them false hope and asking them to rejoin the guys in Kenya (but not calling them), which they did, but they didn't knew that they would suffer even more. So all those things made them being easy manipulated by rivals to leave, since that they were already tired of all that stuff and those rivals not wanting to see Emeneya peforming at Zenith.

http://congovibes.com/congolese-music/guy-moller-doing-his-part-of-the-story/






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Matebu #92 on: January 22, 2020, 02:13

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Matebu #93 on: January 22, 2020, 02:15

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@ Pabloone71 saved me from doing work :D

Matebu #94 on: January 22, 2020, 02:20

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Wenge1995 #95 on: January 22, 2020, 05:24

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@Mfumu Vata

No wonder a lot of classic leaders of Congolese music are so greedy, because they endured a lot of humiliation before they became major stars! What about Ferre and Fally Ipupa with their own bands? Do they pay them decently compared to their old bosses?

Why did everyone hate King Kester so much? Koffi didn't like him, Werrason and Wemba flirted with the idea of friendship but quickly went cold on him? As of today, I hear that Koffi and Werrason STILL haven't made up even though Koffi played a big brother role to him after Wenge 4×4 split. Is it competitive nature that keeps them from coming together or is it deeper?

Mfumu Vata #96 on: January 22, 2020, 20:36

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I don’t know about Ferre, but Fally pays the same way like Koffi used to do, $100 in Kinshasa, $300 abroad.

It is not that they hated Emeneya, its just that they didn’t want him to take the n1 spot again as most popular artist, like he used to be from 1982 until 1988 in Congo. But that always the case with Congolese top artists who are down. It’s just that all archives of Emeneya’s succes are lost, not any documentary about him made and that press did his best to minisize him after Nzinzi. But if you ask people who witnessed his succes, they would say how popular he used to be at that time. Emeneya had difficulties to leave his house without a big crowd in that era (just the way Werrason & Marie Paul used to walk with big crowds behind them), also he could sometimes perform 4 times in one day and he filled all stadiums you can imagine of that era in Kinshasa (Stade de 20 Mai & Stade de 24 November) and cities of Congo (back in those days artists you to tour alot within in country and people used to live well. Also those those unforgettable fara-fara’s against Viva La Musica in those years, where he used to humilate them every time (Studio Maman Ngebi, Intercontinental, Palais du Peuple & Lubumbashi). Werrason just a ungrateful guy, he asked his brother for support, when Wenge 4x4 split. But he refused to help Emeneya, when it was his turn to ask for support. That’s why their relationship were on cold until his death.

Werrason & Koffi aren’t beefing anymore since 3 years and often praise each other in interviews. Koffi & Werra have out-on relationship, back in 1998 they already beefed, because of Werrason discovering that Kodfi wanted to steal hos musician. With him then not mentioning him anymore in Coco Madimba-song during concerts (but nobody noticed), they reconciled just before Bercy. But their relationships were build on hypocrisy.
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Congolitude #97 on: January 28, 2020, 22:28

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Bro can you scan the cover and the booklet if its possible please ? Thank you

Pabloone71 #98 on: February 07, 2020, 16:57

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Mfumu Vata #99 on: February 07, 2020, 22:28

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Techno Malewa was the first album that was totally arranged by Leny Bidens after being years long his father's assistant (Sec Bidens). Before the recording, he was also involved in Werra's Zenith '08 (but the sound was very bad, they had to do the sound balance very quick, after that Mokobe finished his concert very late and the musicians being threatened by combattans). But he would got his revenge with the two Zenith's of Werrason and Ferre Gola in 2010, who had an excellent sound.

I'm happy to see the booklet. Now I can prove my friends that it wasn't Kimbangu Solo who played on volume 1, but Christian Solo. I used to come with multiple proofs that Christian Solo played, coming with videos of 2mukwata and seka moke plus old articles from Digitalcongo. But they were still not believing me, even after showing the video of Wenge Maison Mere arriving in Brussels for the mixing when they were arrested at the airport (the video where Kakol called Koffi "Koko Ntiri", who's a character), which was the same trip where Christian decided to ran away.

I'm surprised to see Cedrick Bass Beton, who used then to be a reserve-member to be also credited. Also crazy to see Mavungu, because it's very rare to see Werrason invite a session artist to play mbonda on Maison Mere albums, I wonder what made him decide to invite him. The same for Michel Bass, because Werra once said in 2014 during an interview with Mamie Ilela, that he hates all people who left him and that those left will become automatic his enemy. Still funny to see how the songs Diego Music, Mitterant Champagne and Salon d'Honneur are credited to Werrason.

When did Chevignon synthe leave Maison Mere ? and from which moment did Thierry Synthe rejoin Wenge Maison Mere after being Bill Clinton's musician for a moment. Was Thierry Synthe also present at Zenith '08 ?

Where is the promised "Disque d'Or" of Diego Music? Because at FIKIN '09, he said that Malewa was close to become a gold record in France and after Zenith '10 he said that they had to wait just some weeks and that he would present it at the Double Olympia-event that never came.

Is Adney Image still active, the combattans-phenomenon really killed alot of businesses in the Congolese community of Europe.

congo-243 #100 on: February 07, 2020, 23:17

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Man these artist are so lucky that congo doesn't have structure like the Americans, because the lack of credit they give to their artist is insulting. So you mean to tell me all where put on Werra name, besides his son Héritier? I'm dead

Matebu #101 on: February 08, 2020, 02:19

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Bro can you scan the cover and the booklet if its possible please ? Thank you

Like this? Entire booklet is posted



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Matebu #102 on: February 08, 2020, 02:24

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One of the best sounding albums ever; Absolutement. Nice to see all participants and composers getting credit and thanks for their contributions for a change. Some of the very best studio musicians and Wenge Kumbela alumni backing.

Boncana Maiga of Mali is an amazing producer and artistic director - Africando’s All Stars Betece was recorded and released right around the same time.   

Very nice gesture from Koffi composing Feelin for her, which would become Gilba a year later. Also, nice gestures from Meiway and Nyboma composing songs













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Pabloone71 #103 on: February 08, 2020, 14:56

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in DVD (it's a bit the same, especially credit)









Grandpretre #104 on: February 08, 2020, 18:04

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