Author Topic: BELGIUM'S NATIONAL TEAM OT  (Read 384 times)

Manzambi94 on: April 24, 2018, 18:41

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It is not regarding music, but why our players (Congolese & Angolans) doesn't have any pride at all? If you check all the generation of the national team of Belgium and France especially there a lot of players of Congolese origin's or Angolan mainly Congolese (because Angolan people are more good at basket then that they are at soccer) and the shcokimg fact is that sometimes those Congolese players aren't even born in Belgium in France or Portugal but in Congo or Angola.
Listen the players who would have played for Congo. Mandanda, Denayer, Kompany, Lukaku Jordan and Romelu, Benteke, Makelele, and those who would have played for Angola Cavanda, Matuidi, William Carvalho, Vidigal, João Mario,




The sad fact is that one of the Belgian/Congolese players Batshuayi said that he is not Congolese at all, for nothing at all, and he is black only because of his parents and he is totally Belgian.
Those words really shocked me I mean why our people doesn't respect our own roots? I mean it is OK to play for Belgium but saying that you are black only because of your parents means that you have some sort of hate for your country.

In the meantime both Lukaku became superstars Kompany was regarded as one of the best of the European defenders ever, William Carvalho and João Mario won the European Cup, and Matuidi won a lot of titles with PSG and now play for the first club in Italy the Juventus.
Do you imagine if all those players choosed wisely?


Matebu #1 on: April 24, 2018, 19:04

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Yeah, same case for France's national team with the likes of Paul Pogba (Guinea), Djibril Sidibé (Mali), Blaise Matuidi (DRC), N'Golo Kanté (Mali), Ousmane Dembélé (Senegal), Presnel Kimpembe, the list goes on. Most of the squad is African now

The reason why they opt for European teams is because the fanbase is 10x bigger, facilities and coaching staff are much better, and they get huge endorsement deals in those countries. It's the hard reality, but aside from them being away from their true roots, it's more pragmatic for them to be on those EU rosters.

In order for those players to play for their motherland countries, their respective countries need to step it up when it comes to investing in great facilities and conching staff, also doing a proper job of recruiting. All those African players in EU national teams were recruited by scouts, so African teams need to hire good recruiters also to convince them to join.

Plus, those teams will almost always qualify for the World Cup, whereas some African teams can go decades without qualifying

« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 19:07 by Matebu »

BrazzaBoy #2 on: April 24, 2018, 19:12

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When I was a kid you could only play for the team of your nationality so playing at home meant being of Congolese nationality which was pointless because our parents went thru everything imaginable so that their kids could have french nationality or whatever nationality. So thats why people of congo descent or born in the congo ended up playing for france and other countries where they lived or grew up, such as Makelele or the guys from his generation. They honestly didnt have much of a choice because choosing the homeland woulda meant jeapordizing your status, god forbid your career is over now you living like a ngulu in paris lol
Now they changed it you can pick and choose, but the thing is if why play for a team thats gonna struggle in the African Cup when you could have a forsure spot in a team thats gonna be in the World cup. Thats honestly what it comes down too. Doesnt help that most our homeland teams have poor management, I remember the RDC players almost going on strike because they werent gonna get paid. Other than making your parents proud, you dont really get a lot of benefits. You get more exposure being on the french or belgium squad, now u can go from maybe ligue 1 to la ligua thanks to your apperance. So theres a lot that comes into that decision but the younger generation is leaning more towards playing for the homeland these days. If our teams managements can hold it together for the next 5-10 years a lot of kids are gonna wanna play for the home country because at the end of the day we dont feel french belgium or swiss we know where we from. Coaches staff and higher ups just have to get it together thats all.

BrazzaBoy #3 on: April 24, 2018, 19:13

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Matebu took the word out my mouth :D I was gonna hit “Post” and it said “someone posted a reply while you were typing” only to find out that we said almost the same thing, almost.

JV “The Roast Master” #4 on: April 24, 2018, 19:21

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The reason why they opt for European teams is because the fanbase is 10x bigger, facilities and coaching staff are much better, and they get huge endorsement deals in those countries. It's the hard reality, but aside from them being away from their true roots, it's more pragmatic for them to be on those EU rosters.

In order for those players to play for their motherland countries, their respective countries need to step it up when it comes to investing in great facilities and conching staff, also doing a proper job of recruiting. All those African players in EU national teams were recruited by scouts, so African teams need to hire good recruiters also to convince them to join.

Plus, those teams will almost always qualify for the World Cup, whereas some African teams can go decades without qualifying

Well gotdamn! You just took the words out of my mouth....plus these players don’t ever have to worry about not getting paid for big tournaments, protesting for their money or having to use their own money to pay for transportation and their less fortunate team mates.

Manzambi94 #5 on: April 25, 2018, 11:08

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I took some time to answer and, OK, African federation aren't perfect (Camerun for example made everything being laid by Eto'o or almost everything) but I think we need more pride, and be very conscious about our history, how some people who treated us like animals cutting our hands, making ourselves fighting against eachother trying to erase our culture could be the person for who we play soccer for? I mean Benteke and Romelu Lukaku speak in Lingala most of the times between themselves, Makelele made interview with Sankara introducing him to Zidane and Blaise Matuidi said that even though he is Angolan he speaks lingala, so I really don't understand all this love of playing for European teams and then getting booed when things starts to getting worse, I wish all those guys would be back on their national teams, in fact I have noticed that many guys from Western African French Colonies (Mali, Ivory Coast, Senegal especially) play for their homeland, for example Keita (born in Spain), M'Baye Niang (born in France) Alfred Gomis (grown in Italy) that have chosen their hometown land.

Paysan Congolais #6 on: April 27, 2018, 22:01

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It's bigger than football players. The Congolese youth in the West does not have pride in their origin.

I blame their parents. Congolese parents do not teach a sense of pride to their kids.

Matebu #7 on: April 27, 2018, 22:28

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It's bigger than football players. The Congolese youth in the West does not have pride in their origin.

I blame their parents. Congolese parents do not teach a sense of pride to their kids.

The harsh reality is that for 90% of people, money... more broadly, financial security is more valuable than pride. Especially if you were born poor like most athletes. It’s not just Congolese, but most minorities worldwide. 

Imagine your parents working multiple low level jobs in Europe and they find our their son has a multiple million football contract waiting for the Frech national team and a French club. How many of those parents would instead say “no, sign up for the Congolese national team and join TP Mazembe”? some of these guys never stepped foot in Africa during youth... I’m playing devil’s advocate here.

« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 22:32 by Matebu »