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mvulusi96 #15 on: October 17, 2019, 13:33

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Was the sapeur-group "La Guerre de 100 Ans" also close to Defao ? Because I remember them coming sometimes to his rehearhals in Ngiri Ngiri (there used also to be a rare video on youtube of Sankara refusing Papa Griffe's order to leave the stage after showing their clothes with their group), Blaise Element getting a at some point a shout-out in the Tremblement de Terre-generique and Defao even naming his solo album Guerre de 100 Ans.

mvulusi96 #16 on: October 17, 2019, 13:40

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So the story about Zobozi saying that he trained Sankara, Blaise Element and Mbonzo is fake ? Was always doubting about that and Zobozi came also very late, he joined Quartier Latin somewhere in 1999 or 2000 (I think 2000, because he hadn't a shout-out in Force de Frappe like Sankara & Blaise and I started to see him in all tapes who were made after the Bercy-tour).

Were the nicknames Sankara Depunja and Blaise Element inspired by former Burkina Faso presidents Thomas Sankara and Blaise Compaore ? Alot of people don't even know that Sankara De Nkuta and Blaise Element are cousins and that they used to eat secretly together after beefing on tv-stations for BCBG and Maison Mere.

Why used alot of bands in DRC travel via Brazzaville to Europe from the 80s until 2002 ? Was that because of the DGM ? the taxes ?

archos #17 on: October 17, 2019, 14:21

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zobozi said he was their coach because he started that type of style way earlier than them when he was still an atalaku for laviniora and was going on tv with champion at times then he disappeared and came back with koffi
the version of ladins montana was a bit more funny and while the style zobozi came with is closer to what he taught to marchouse,more direct and agressive
yeah that group was born from sapeurs of ngiri ngiri and bandal and was basically close to defao then moved to wenge when some like late bei canto started to meet jb and tata who were giving them clothes before they ended up also giving clothes for mabanga
it is possible that they were inspired by them,but i heard for sankara  its ladins who called him like that,their original style of talking also included some mystic names which people did not pay attention to and  according people i know who use to be in kindoki and now either went muslim or christian there are 3 devils with sankara in their names and  it could be the other source of the name
i think it was because of the days  and frequency of planes that they chose to go via brazza,at some point there were almost no plane to paris from kin  so they had either to go from brazza or from cameroon for some 
dgm could be an issue also because they have crazy taxes for musicians,if you remember the famous interview jb did last year when he got attacked by late yanki and co,he had just paid taxes for  new passports,autorisation de sortie and many little things they create to get money which got him in a bad mood even before interview started
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mvulusi96 #18 on: October 17, 2019, 14:39

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it is possible that they were inspired by them,but i heard for sankara  its ladins who called him like that,their original style of talking also included some mystic names which people did not pay attention to and  according people i know who use to be in kindoki and now either went muslim or christian there are 3 devils with sankara in their names and  it could be the other source of the name

I remember Sankara often saying in the Kibuisa-days "viens chercher le medecin pour la force la force ancestral" very quickly after his long recitations and me then wondering if he knew what he was saying.

mvulusi96 #19 on: October 17, 2019, 14:53

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Some were also returing to Kinshasa via Brazzavill in 80s with their fans waiting at Beach Ngobila, but most were going back directly to Kinshasa from Brussels. I think that Adolphe Dominguez was the only artist in 90s and 2000s to have returned back to Kinshasa from Europe via Brazzaville after Bercy.







 22:19 min & 44:33 min back when Adolphe was don't knowing that Sankara was a spy

Congolitude #20 on: October 17, 2019, 22:13

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Why musicians have "autorisations de sortie" ??

archos #21 on: October 17, 2019, 22:38

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Why musicians have "autorisations de sortie" ??

surely to control them,even on private trips for example when koffi and jb went to see family and mix their albums they surely had to get authorization or they would not be on plane

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Why musicians have "autorisations de sortie" ??

surely to control them,even on private trips for example when koffi and jb went to see family and mix their albums they surely had to get authorization or they would not be on plane

how much do they pay?

archos #23 on: October 17, 2019, 22:55

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i think its 600 dollars or something like that per trip(given they move a lot it generates a lot of money) even to go to brazza they need that paper

archos #24 on: October 26, 2019, 12:38

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ROGER NGANDU BIKILA AKA ROGER NGANDU L'INTERNATIONAL

Roger was born in 1974 in kinshasa and grew up in a wealthy family as his father was a rich bank accountant and he had the dream that his children followed his footsteps or became diplomats
and roger was,like his brothers and sisters,given a strict jehowah witness education,and he'will be a good student much to the pleasure of his parents and they will promise him that the day he graduates from high school they'll send him to europe
in the meantime in early 1990's he starts falling in love with music as sometimes he goes with friends in afternoon concerts of the rising wenge musica and will be attracted by jb mpiana's singing and charisma
from then he will start slowly developping desire to be closer to musicians but given his parents' education first does it very secretly but at some point his father realises and gets angry and it coincides with him graduating from high school and to punish him his father cancels for the moment the project of europe
as he tries to still please his father he decides to go to university and study business law and starts very well while starting to approach more and more jb mpiana and his newly born fan-club MCT mukulu corporation trading( with some of the influent members taking care of his various private business) and will already be seen by other members of wenge musica especially werrason who likes him a lot
and as his dad is made aware that he gets closer and closer to musicians he decides to pay for him a room in university appartments so that he is isolated from music
but the passion from music has grown too much and he secretly still goes near jb mpiana as bouro mpela and willy star are sent to "steal" him sometimes as jb and werra want to give him some role in wenge administration,as they are aware that he is building a fanclub at university
and when they go on europe tour,they will be surprise to see roger gone on tv to announce their programs and give feedback to kinshasa fans and shortly after his father who had been forcing on illness for over a year to still work at a strong rhythm is hit too strongly by illness and ends up dying
when wenge musica return months after,they call him to greet him because he had impressed a lot of people and jb and werra offer him possibility to become the group's official spokesmen who will represent them on tv when they are abroad or want to rest after concerts
he will accept and start but will remember some of his dad's last words in hospital asking him to at least get a university diploma to honour him and he will disappear just after the entrances of ferre seguin japonais and zamuangana fiston to focus on university
months after he'll make a couple of appearances on jb's demand to talk about feux de l'amour imminent release and will go again and as he is on the verge of completing licence,wenge musica splits and he decides to go and check and he is first informed of where werra and co rehearse and is taken there but he is rejected by security guys who tell him in a rude way there is no place for him there and he should go to his luba brother jb,much to werrason's anger when he hears it
and he goes to see jb where he is welcomed and he decides to put class on hold and sees his mother to get blessing to fully start working with jb and she asks to see jb himself and tells him please take good care of him his father is not there anymore take him as your own brother
but still, to toughen him up,jb will let him go through some little hardship which are common in the world of music and he will almost want to abandon music as he is is not used to something other than sweet and peaceful life in good conditions and will be told by mbuta kiss to come to airport when bcbg is about to go to zenith and like all musicians he had offered his clothes to people knowing he'll come back with gifts but the day of trip somebody else travels instead of him
and he is so hurt that he cries but few days after he receives a phone call from jb who tells him he is sorry that he got removed and he'll make up for it by bringing him two bag of clothes
and he continues to establish on tv what is the first style of spokesmen,in french destined to "upper social class" while his partner blanchard mosaka developped second style with proverbs and lingala destined to middle class,and sankara and co developped "greco" destined to under educated street people for easier understanding
in 2001 he will finally make it on europe list and he is on the huge list for bercy tour and becomes more and more appreciated by his boss and fans
in 2004 while there is a little disagreement between him and some admins he receives insisting approach from quartier latin with promise of a big house rent and a jaguar car but he declines and at the same time starts trying to win jb's trust as much as possible
by 2006 he will manage to fully establish a strong role in administration having forced out most of the admins he had issues with and from 2007 he will officially have several roles in the group,he will be named by jb mpiana manager of the artist,vice-manager of the group behind current minister molendo sakombi,private assistant,co-manager of private businness with seguin,director of marketing section...
all these new roles will boost his confidence and he'll feel so influent with the fact that he is able to get people recruited in the group that he will also feel he can force other people out but he does it so swiftly that jb does not realise
in 2010 when group releases soyons serieux he gets a song which will end up being a bonus track and obviously very hard to promote in kinshasa
in 2013 he is again on the list for failed zenith but gets european papers as he is allowed to go to europe several times on his own for administration steps to get it
and when he returns he is tricked by combattants on a phone call which  cancels australian tour
in 2014 he will be involved in polemic between jb mpiana and koffi olomide  by coming with the idea of making tv appearances in doctor outfit to fight against "ebola" like they nicknamed koffi as to refer to his troublesome character and in the meantime on  professional level starts to be allowed to bring contracts in the group and take a percentage and jb also starts to advise him that success can go away in a matter of seconds so he should  invest in something or with his school pedigree he should consider at some point trying to become a deputy
and also to reward him for how loyal he is,with the fact sometimes he is given responsability to keep big amounts from a deal in his house and he still keeps it intact without stealing,he is given one song on album also to make up for his past failed experience
in 2017 he will follow jb's advice and invest some money he saved into a label millemium production which would organize concerts and nightclub concepts but takes time to react as some beef has restarted between people around jb mpiana and people around werrason and he will during  a heritier watanabe concert produced by his label take the mic and say in front of people "let me tell you the cause of all that mess,my boss jb mpiana advised  president werrason to put pride aside and make peace with ferre and heritier as they are the most likely heirs of the clan and president werrason got angry" and nobody from maison mere camp responded to that
in 2018 roger will have a tough time,his affairs with various internet journalists are made public and cause clashs between them women and it affects his reputation,in the same time as he had added to his label a travel agency he is conned almost 50K dollars by partners  and to make things worse he gets suspended in bcbg for having signed illegally two contracts to try to win back some money and for having have a strong dispute with his colleague mosaka as he sees mosaka go heads and shoulders above in terms of popularity and once again he receives strong quartier latin approach as koffi has always admired him
but thanks to intervention of various influent donors his suspension is reduced then lifted and during an explosive group reunion,jb "re claims" control of the group and orders  the two fighting camps of the group roger seguin jdl and co vs genta ficarre fudji and co to stop their stupid conflicts or he'll go to europe and start recording albums without the group and reminds them he had so much occasions to do things without them but he remained loyal to them
and as things are appeased and settled he gets a second song on album



archos #25 on: October 26, 2019, 15:30

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guys i have added the one of roger ngandu

mvulusi96 #26 on: October 26, 2019, 16:53

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ROGER NGANDU BIKILA AKA ROGER NGANDU L'INTERNATIONAL

Roger was born in 1974 in kinshasa and grew up in a wealthy family as his father was a rich bank accountant and he had the dream that his children followed his footsteps or became diplomats
and roger was,like his brothers and sisters,given a strict jehowah witness education,and he'will be a good student much to the pleasure of his parents and they will promise him that the day he graduates from high school they'll send him to europe
in the meantime in early 1990's he starts falling in love with music as sometimes he goes with friends in afternoon concerts of the rising wenge musica and will be attracted by jb mpiana's singing and charisma
from then he will start slowly developping desire to be closer to musicians but given his parents' education first does it very secretly but at some point his father realises and gets angry and it coincides with him graduating from high school and to punish him his father cancels for the moment the project of europe
as he tries to still please his father he decides to go to university and study business law and starts very well while starting to approach more and more jb mpiana and his newly born fan-club MCT mukulu corporation trading( with some of the influent members taking care of his various private business) and will already be seen by other members of wenge musica especially werrason who likes him a lot
and as his dad is made aware that he gets closer and closer to musicians he decides to pay for him a room in university appartments so that he is isolated from music
but the passion from music has grown too much and he secretly still goes near jb mpiana as bouro mpela and willy star are sent to "steal" him sometimes as jb and werra want to give him some role in wenge administration,as they are aware that he is building a fanclub at university
and when they go on europe tour,they will be surprise to see roger gone on tv to announce their programs and give feedback to kinshasa fans and shortly after his father who had been forcing on illness for over a year to still work at a strong rhythm is hit too strongly by illness and ends up dying
when wenge musica return months after,they call him to greet him because he had impressed a lot of people and jb and werra offer him possibility to become the group's official spokesmen who will represent them on tv when they are abroad or want to rest after concerts
he will accept and start but will remember some of his dad's last words in hospital asking him to at least get a university diploma to honour him and he will disappear just after the entrances of ferre seguin japonais and zamuangana fiston to focus on university
months after he'll make a couple of appearances on jb's demand to talk about feux de l'amour imminent release and will go again and as he is on the verge of completing licence,wenge musica splits and he decides to go and check and he is first informed of where werra and co rehearse and is taken there but he is rejected by security guys who tell him in a rude way there is no place for him there and he should go to his luba brother jb,much to werrason's anger when he hears it
and he goes to see jb where he is welcomed and he decides to put class on hold and sees his mother to get blessing to fully start working with jb and she asks to see jb himself and tells him please take good care of him his father is not there anymore take him as your own brother
but still, to toughen him up,jb will let him go through some little hardship which are common in the world of music and he will almost want to abandon music as he is is not used to something other than sweet and peaceful life in good conditions and will be told by mbuta kiss to come to airport when bcbg is about to go to zenith and like all musicians he had offered his clothes to people knowing he'll come back with gifts but the day of trip somebody else travels instead of him
and he is so hurt that he cries but few days after he receives a phone call from jb who tells him he is sorry that he got removed and he'll make up for it by bringing him two bag of clothes
and he continues to establish on tv what is the first style of spokesmen,in french destined to "upper social class" while his partner blanchard mosaka developped second style with proverbs and lingala destined to middle class,and sankara and co developped "greco" destined to under educated street people for easier understanding
in 2001 he will finally make it on europe list and he is on the huge list for bercy tour and becomes more and more appreciated by his boss and fans
in 2004 while there is a little disagreement between him and some admins he receives insisting approach from quartier latin with promise of a big house rent and a jaguar car but he declines and at the same time starts trying to win jb's trust as much as possible
by 2006 he will manage to fully establish a strong role in administration having forced out most of the admins he had issues with and from 2007 he will officially have several roles in the group,he will be named by jb mpiana manager of the artist,vice-manager of the group behind current minister molendo sakombi,private assistant,co-manager of private businness with seguin,director of marketing section...
all these new roles will boost his confidence and he'll feel so influent with the fact that he is able to get people recruited in the group that he will also feel he can force other people out but he does it so swiftly that jb does not realise
in 2010 when group releases soyons serieux he gets a song which will end up being a bonus track and obviously very hard to promote in kinshasa
in 2013 he is again on the list for failed zenith but gets european papers as he is allowed to go to europe several times on his own for administration steps to get it
and when he returns he is tricked by combattants on a phone call which  cancels australian tour
in 2014 he will be involved in polemic between jb mpiana and koffi olomide  by coming with the idea of making tv appearances in doctor outfit to fight against "ebola" like they nicknamed koffi as to refer to his troublesome character and in the meantime on  professional level starts to be allowed to bring contracts in the group and take a percentage and jb also starts to advise him that success can go away in a matter of seconds so he should  invest in something or with his school pedigree he should consider at some point trying to become a deputy
and also to reward him for how loyal he is,with the fact sometimes he is given responsability to keep big amounts from a deal in his house and he still keeps it intact without stealing,he is given one song on album also to make up for his past failed experience
in 2017 he will follow jb's advice and invest some money he saved into a label millemium production which would organize concerts and nightclub concepts but takes time to react as some beef has restarted between people around jb mpiana and people around werrason and he will during  a heritier watanabe concert produced by his label take the mic and say in front of people "let me tell you the cause of all that mess,my boss jb mpiana advised  president werrason to put pride aside and make peace with ferre and heritier as they are the most likely heirs of the clan and president werrason got angry" and nobody from maison mere camp responded to that
in 2018 roger will have a tough time,his affairs with various internet journalists are made public and cause clashs between them women and it affects his reputation,in the same time as he had added to his label a travel agency he is conned almost 50K dollars by partners  and to make things worse he gets suspended in bcbg for having signed illegally two contracts to try to win back some money and for having have a strong dispute with his colleague mosaka as he sees mosaka go heads and shoulders above in terms of popularity and once again he receives strong quartier latin approach as koffi has always admired him
but thanks to intervention of various influent donors his suspension is reduced then lifted and during an explosive group reunion,jb "re claims" control of the group and orders  the two fighting camps of the group roger seguin jdl and co vs genta ficarre fudji and co to stop their stupid conflicts or he'll go to europe and start recording albums without the group and reminds them he had so much occasions to do things without them but he remained loyal to them
and as things are appeased and settled he gets a second song on album

So he never finished university ?

lol. imagine Roger Ngandu being with Werrason ahahaha. But I don't think that he would have spent a long time in Maison Mere. I'm that they would bring as ngulu to Europe in their first or second Europe-tour, like other who used to work for Maison Mere.

That's so humilating to hear that you won't go to Europe just some mintues before flight while you already gave all your clothes way. Those things happened to often in the Congolese music-scene. Why don't they never say the truth from the start instead of dissapointing people.

It was a good choice from him to refuse the offer of Koffi Olomide. Because all people working for Koffi's admin or being his spokemen always end badly (guys like Assitou Mbo, Faustin Djata, Texas Katadi, Zingeti le Ras Kaback, Zobozi, etc.)
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archos #27 on: October 26, 2019, 17:38

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 he restarted in recent years and is not too far from getting master i also hear that he has got strong political ambition but he is for the moment afraid to make it public

Congolitude #28 on: October 27, 2019, 12:41

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he restarted in recent years and is not too far from getting master i also hear that he has got strong political ambition but he is for the moment afraid to make it public

because he could have problems? or jb could be against?

archos #29 on: October 27, 2019, 13:40

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he restarted in recent years and is not too far from getting master i also hear that he has got strong political ambition but he is for the moment afraid to make it public

because he could have problems? or jb could be against?

because of his positions,he did an interview where he was very critical of whats happening in politics and education of young generation it tooks a lot of calls from jb  not to get him in mad trouble,he is very direct when he talks about politics