seeing how mbuta turns when he does full clown mode to defend his artist makes me angry,man is so good in this concept he should stick to that it would even preserve his relationship with artists even if they know his favourite
i wonder which artist collegien is talking about when saying "he wants to be like karmapa"

I don't think that Michel Bass, Olivier Tshimanga, Mbetenge Domingo, Luciana Demingongo, Djudjuchet and Nyboma will be happy with what he said and I'm excepting a strong reaction from Michel Bass and Olivier Tshimanga. However, Collegien is of the old generation that wasn't signing papers when doing session work. But at the same time, I think that he's still right about saying that it impossible for Congolese artists in Europe to live only with music as job, by already giving the example of how people live in Europe (paying rent, assurance, etc.) and how much a white person could earn in SACEM to live. I wonder what Maika Munan's reaction to it would be, although not living in France anymore. Because he used to sign contracts with Papa Wemba, Reddy Amisi, Koffi Olomidé, etc. with him being at SACEM often credited as composer of all songs he arranged for them.

I hope that Collegien didn't lie, knowing him this could maybe already being his last day in Kinshasa to return back to Europe. Would be nice if Mbuta can get the opportunity to record pt. 2 with him to talk about his time in Wenge 4x4, El Paris, Nouvelle Generation and the tours he did with Awilo, since that we waited for years to finish interviews he did with Teddy Mola.

Wenge El Paris was a big scam. Viva la Musica being the only band in Europe to perform every month. Manda Chante said the same thing about Wenge El Paris. If Kongolo Mobutu didn't threaten his parents in Kinshasa by sending soldiers to their house, he would still been in Viva la Musica. Collegien did right to join Nouvelle Generation, because if he stayed he would suffer in Kinshasa and maybe also ending up like Alain Mwepu. All musicians of El Paris that went to Kinshasa for the second time, have until this day kind of regrets about wasting years there and suffering with many being humilated by having to live again in their parents house.

Marie Paul didn’t lake vision. It’s because the trips to Kinshasa that people respected El Paris. His name became strong while people quickly forgot about Ricoco who until this day regret about it. The problem was just about El Paris not being a proper band, like people thought in Kinshasa. Some living in Paris, others in Belgium, some in other French cities. Maradona, Dello Bass and Collegien were surprised when coming from Kinshasa in Paris. Because El Paris had crazy succes in Kinshasa and they thought that they would perform often when coming France only to discover that the band didn’t exist in reality and just being like a nzong-nzong. This made Collegien join Nouvelle Generation. Maradona sometimes performing with Victoria Eleison and Viva la Musica who didn’t had a proper drummer anymore. Dello Bass performing with soukous artists and sometimes with Tabu Ley. It’s only after like 1,5 year that they reunited quickly to rehearse and prepare the second trip which had bad consequences.

Manda Chante had the same thing like Maradona and co when arriving in France after that Kongolo Mobutu paid a ticket for him to arrive in France. He was fed up to wait for months and joined Viva la Musica, only to return when Kongolo heard about Viva la Musica to preparing a show at LSC to present him as a new member while El Paris was preparing a new trip to Kinshasa.

The problem with El Paris was that they hadn’t papers. It were one of the reasons why Aime Buanga and Ricoco refused to go to Kinshasa with them although Kongolo doing his best to reconcile them with Marie Paul’s camp and perform together for some concerts and his sister’s wedding. Ricoco ended up accepting but changed his mind on last minute. Marie Paul and co took the risk to go to Kinshasa and managed to come back to Europe, because Kongolo made them travel to Europe like his family members and those working at the airport not controlling the passports, just stamp those 20+ passeports thinking that they were all part of the presidential family. In 1993, they had bad luck because Kongolo Mobutu took all their passports after a conflict,  threw them out his brother’s villa (late Konga Mobutu) and all problems starting from then.

The musicians of El Paris could have ended up like those of Academia, if they returned back to Kinshasa.El Paris was killed when coming back in 2000 after 7 years. The first concert at LSC being mpiaka and the next one following week at Theatre Marie Bell also. It ruined them and all concerts during the tour flopping. They had two options, returning quickly back to Kinshasa where they a big fanbase at that era or stay in Europe. The majority (the band, influential donors and fans) wanted El Paris to go back, but Marie Paul preferred to stay, knowing that it may be difficult to get visa’s again for a next tour and prepare a new album (Eboulement Total) to return back to Kinshasa with fire. Musicians started to lose patience leaving the band one by one life started to become hard for them, late Jean Pierre Saah not wanting to sign him anymore, etc.