Author Topic: COMING SOON THE STORY OF THE MIXED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FALLY IPUPA AND INNOSSB  (Read 848 times)

archos on: January 17, 2020, 22:25

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Like title says,in the coming days,hopefully by the end of the weekend if the little man gives me a break lol i will post my story on the relationship between fally and innoss how it started howand why it started going downhill and how it became a complete mess where people only judge the one who is asked the most about it

bigbodybeats #1 on: January 23, 2020, 23:02

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archos #2 on: January 23, 2020, 23:08

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please post when you have time

yeah bro,i plan to do it this week end  or tomorrow  if i can but before sunday night for certain


archos #3 on: January 24, 2020, 20:20

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innocent balume grew up in a family super passionate about music with all his relatives almost being musicians or having been practicing when younger,and quickly developed dream of stardom and he decides to participate to local qualifiers for vodacom in his native region of kivu,which suprised people are he was 10 years or more younger than other candidates and he won the competition and a deal with afro-american star
as he plans to settle long term in kinshasa to be able to properly promote his music and cement a position in the congolese music,he is introduced to several stars of kinshasa like celeo scram(who will be for a short time years after his "brother in law" as celeo dates his cousin),fally ipupa,heritier,jb mpiana and he will himself introduce fally to akon as he was already at ease with english
fally being the closest in terms of ages among older biggest stars,innocent who will soon adopt innoss b will feel more comfortable being more often with fally and plans several collaboration with fally given they both had the dream to conquer the world and they will record together a song "merci maman"(thank you mama)but one incident will start to fuel progressively distance between them
in fact,fally and celeo fall out while innoss still approaches celeo while fally wants to keep him as his protégé and in the meantime fally is not making himself available to shoot the clip which would have boosted innoss as a barely teenager
but being a children ahead of his time he understands what could be the problem and he tries to contact fally while fally claims having no problem with him
As time goes on innoss starts to be reported that fally says in private he can wait for a century to see him coming for clip given he betrays him,and from then it starts fuelling a bit of revolt in innoss who feels let down by a big brother he trusted to take him by the hand and guide him in the difficult environment of kinshasa based music but he remains polite and whenever they see each other casually he always salutes him respectfully
2014 and 2015 will take their progressive fallout to a new level as innoss who despite growing up as an artist with his own songs wants to have feats with the biggest stars of kinshasa and approaches fally again to try to see if they can collaborate and forget the little affair of their clip and fally plays the game
but to innoss surprise journalists close to fally call him to say to him that he told him in private not that they will have a second feat,but that petit innoss has come to beg for another feat and like in such cases between artists there is always one journalist who snitches so innoss is made aware of how fally described his desire of a second feat but plays it down,still waits from fally himself a reaction and starts planning feats with other big stars starting with jb but project fails due to both having last minute to go on tour,then records with werrason and later koffi olomide
thanks to some donors,him and fally will have a bit of conversation together and fally will kinda try to get him to join f victeam label and of course having him totally on  his side,with no contact with his rivals like it has been some sort of tradition in congolese music
and in 2016 2017 when innoss openly praises ferre and heritier for recent songs,fally's reaction will be to block him and say things about him in private which of course will be snitched as like zacharie bababaswe says "musical world of kinshasa is a world where everything is secret without being secret"
and innos will react in interview to that,lamenting that the guy he took as an older brother he could rely on lets him down for such reasons and saying a true big brother can not act like that and that a true big brother should appreciate younger brother respecting all big brothers and not sulking because he does not own the little brother like his private property
journalists from tv and internet who spot something is happening will be very very constantly asking innoss questions about fally and he says honestly what he thinks and makes it clear that they do not get along anymore for reasons he cant explain to himself let alone to others but since he is the younger one people will automatically think he is the one who messed up
on the other hand fally will avoid any question about him,either dodgeing it without saying his name or planning before interview not to be asked about him
as a young guy nearing end of adolescence and something more mature than his age,innoss' honest answers and clear explanations step by step of their fallout will be instrumentalized to build for him the image of an impolite young man
another factor which will worsen their relationship is suspicion of him dating anita mwarabu of f victeam label and having her on a feat just after anita left the label
campaign of destabilization against innoss will reach a new step on social media as he is constantly either attacked by fally fans or himself hitting back or posting sentences which can sound like hidden shots and sometimes more offensive when some people start saying he is rwandese and has nothing to do in congolese music he speaks lingala with a strange accent and things like that
quickly followed by some internet "journalists",it becomes pretty clear that if you are rooting for fally,you can not say anything positive about innoss b
anything innoss b does is interpreted as done against fally to prove him a point and on of of the rare occasions of which fally allows question about innoss,he pretends not having heard the name and mentions the name of gaz mawete and coincidentally,gaz goes to diss innoss for a while,and ofcourse innoss as a confident young man will like with fally explain were it started and show how he does not understand how there can be a problem normally
yet another step will be reached with the clip of yo pe and the fact djizzo decided to include sheeps wearing crowns which he defends himself saying its simply a concept and if people believe its fally then they are insulting fally and furthermore crown is not a private property of anybody proof is fabregas also had a crown on recent albums
in various interviews despite the beef,innoss will keep insisting he has utmost respect for fally the artist but as for their human relationship people should have courage despite him being barely older than fally oldest children and a squirrel in front of a lion like fally's internet journalists say,to ask fally what is his real problem with innoss because as long as he is the only one responding about that peope will always easily be influenced to believe he is not polite towards older people because he has managed some little fame,while he has great relationship with a lot of older congolese musicians


shamala #4 on: January 24, 2020, 20:51

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Congolese musicians and their love for beefing eeiish
PORTE-PAROLE NON OFFICIEL DE JB MPIANA ET WENGE BCBG.

Wenge1995 #5 on: January 24, 2020, 22:53

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@archos

This whole situation is an example of what occurs when your idol become your rivals! In my opinion, Fally is jealous by the amount of success Innoss has achieved at such a young age and that Fally can't claim any responsibility over the boy's success.





Just compare the views on Youtube and streams of songs between Fally and Innoss; Innoss clearly is the winner of 2019 in Congolese music across the diaspora of Africa. Innoss averages the same types of views Fally gets on rhumbas from Control, but Innoss releases a lot less music yet acomplishes roughly the same average views.

Fally Ipupa attempted to sabotage Innoss by encouraging him to join F'Victeam and waste away like the many talented people left on the label. How come Anita Mwarabu never got legitmate promotion for an album? She's beautiful and can sing, but no social media promo from Fally. In fact, Fally never bigs up anyone on his social media aside from himself unless it's a birthday of Koffi or throwback photos of his QL days.

Innoss isn't impolite, he's stating facts. As long as the music is good and he's got donors behind him, it's time to prove that he's among the leaders of 6eme generation!

Kinois #6 on: January 25, 2020, 00:23

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shamala #7 on: January 25, 2020, 05:54

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PORTE-PAROLE NON OFFICIEL DE JB MPIANA ET WENGE BCBG.

archos #8 on: January 25, 2020, 22:15

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if only the current innoss and fally could make a feat together...

CM PRINCE #9 on: January 25, 2020, 22:19

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if only the current innoss and fally could make a feat together...
Congolese artists don't think enough of the money they could make together they just love conflict, otherwise we'd have been ahead of the game by now

archos #10 on: January 25, 2020, 23:46

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if only the current innoss and fally could make a feat together...
Congolese artists don't think enough of the money they could make together they just love conflict, otherwise we'd have been ahead of the game by now

yeah the most worrying thing is that they love conflict so much that they actually would not accept allowing the other to earn money,the only ones to have done that to some extent are jb werra
nowadays if you want to unit musicians by paying one will say no just because he will not be able anymore to belittle the other if they both are or become able to buy lambos,several thousands dollars clothes,watches and things like that
like jean goubald once say in front of  many of them at a reunion at ministry of culture,our music would be the second in world if they did not act like a bunch of spoiled kids
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CM PRINCE #11 on: January 26, 2020, 01:41

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if only the current innoss and fally could make a feat together...
Congolese artists don't think enough of the money they could make together they just love conflict, otherwise we'd have been ahead of the game by now

yeah the most worrying thing is that they love conflict so much that they actually would not accept allowing the other to earn money,the only ones to have done that to some extent are jb werra
nowadays if you want to unit musicians by paying one will say no just because he will not be able anymore to belittle the other if they both are or become able to buy lambos,several thousands dollars clothes,watches and things like that
like jean goubald once say in front of  many of them at a reunion at ministry of culture,our music would be the second in world if they did not act like a bunch of spoiled kids
Loool Archos man don't lie jb and werra don't otherwise we'd have had a wenge 4x4 reunion by now, or Werra would have done some projects with the ex dream team. Now the closest person that does is Koffi to an extent, it's only that him and papa wemba didn't do the wake up tour that was supposed to be done due to ego's. It's because of Clan Wenge why artists refuse to work with the "enemy"

archos #12 on: January 26, 2020, 02:14

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 what i meant and i stand by it is that from 2006 until today,jb and werra either passed each other deals or planned tactics to be both earning from same producers and donors,but what they refuse clearly and strongly is that any other than them getting anywhere near  in a wenge reunion because they consider they are the ones who have maintained the name of wenge alive
indeed koffi would be up for it but like you said esprit wenge blocks it
koffi has something unique in congolese music is that he can do such things or he can hate with the strongest passion a journalist but he will go to him if thats one of the people who will air his promotion for an event,other artists its clear you are in good terms with them nice you are not you will never see him in your show example naty lokole and jb,naty has 25 years of career he interviewed everybody but jb

Wenge1995 #13 on: January 26, 2020, 04:51

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Wenge Musica is the most toxic band in terms of relationship between members and fans. Even if some wealthy donor paid each original member of Wenge 4×4 a nice lump sum payment to organize and perform a reunion concert, a problem of jealously and old beef would quickly dismantle the idea as soon as it's thought up lmao

Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda #14 on: January 26, 2020, 05:10

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Guys do be mistaken, people love yope bacause of Diamond platnumz, all those views were because of Diamond, the response to the song was bacuse of him, am just saying this but soon they will be no need to say it cause you will see it soon.... Look at his last release and next ones to come....... This song is played a lot in southern Africa also but everyone is saying its Diamond's song......... Inoss is having a moment because of a great collabo and Fally is always relevant,he has not won nothing and he must not use that to pump his ego....... Fally has a terrible attitude yes but he is undeniable the King of Congo, am not a 100%fan of him, but am a 100%fan of congo music and only Fally and Koffi are managing to keep it alive maybe Werra also. There is no one who becomes a King because of 1hit song never ever we have seen even much greater songs but 1hit is just the beginning, persistence is king and for me Inoss B wont make it big as people expect, because of language....... His yope was released and people were just quiet and 1 feat with an African giant changed everything