Author Topic: Werra's concert in London of 2002 in better quality  (Read 619 times)

Mfumu Vata on: May 13, 2023, 23:11

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Otis Lumumba's last concert with Wenge Maison Mère before running away.

I wonder why Werrason didn't brought Zina, Kadogo, Linda, Tshala and the two Carines with him to London. Didn't receive  visa's for UK ? Or was it just a way to get ngulu's from Kinshasa with their passeports to UK ?

Wenge1995 #1 on: May 14, 2023, 01:30

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Otis Lumumba's last concert with Wenge Maison Mère before running away.

I wonder why Werrason didn't brought Zina, Kadogo, Linda, Tshala and the two Carines with him to London. Didn't receive  visa's for UK ? Or was it just a way to get ngulu's from Kinshasa with their passeports to UK ?

It's strange that Polystar became the main rhythmic guitarist when Otis left because Mayi Ndombe was around since before double Zenith.

Manzambi94 #2 on: May 14, 2023, 07:30

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Otis Lumumba's last concert with Wenge Maison Mère before running away.

I wonder why Werrason didn't brought Zina, Kadogo, Linda, Tshala and the two Carines with him to London. Didn't receive  visa's for UK ? Or was it just a way to get ngulu's from Kinshasa with their passeports to UK ?

It's strange that Polystar became the main rhythmic guitarist when Otis left because Mayi Ndombe was around since before double Zenith.
It seems that Mayi Ndombe has two "problems " to become the main Rhytmic guitarist the first one is he is too outspoke which is a total no no in Congolese groups, check Prince, Zobozi and all the group members who spoke too much and what end they have done. The second it seems that he doesn't want to get into spiritual stuff which is also the reason why Alì Mbonda was so mistreated by Werra despite being there since the beginning.

Mfumu Vata #3 on: May 14, 2023, 10:33

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Polystar didn't become directly the main rhythm-guitarist. If you watch concerts of 2003, you'll see that he was sharing that role with Mayi Ndombe and another guy. There was no guitarist that the main rhythm guitarist at that time. Mayi Ndombe playing even more rhythm in concerts than him. But when it came to the UK-trip if, Mayi Ndombe wasn't selected. I guess because of Werrason trusting Polystar more since that he already went to Europe twice with Bozi (1999 & 2000) and accepted to stay in Maison Mère when they were in Europe for Double Zenith altough Bozi asking him to come back and offering him a trip to Europe.

From the moment Maison Mère came back from UK. Polystar claimed the spot as rhythm-guitarist and with the years coming it became really difficult for other guitarists to take that spot. There like 7 rhythm guitarists at that time (including Blaise Musika-sika). Mayi Ndombe then started more to work with Werrason at home. Also offering Flamme some guitar partitions. Btw both Mayi Ndombe and Polystar came to Maison Mère as lead guitarists. Mayi Ndombe came as Burkina Faso's replacer in 2001. When Japonais stayed in Europe Bill Clinton gave Polystar the nickname Coréen (Corean) which he adopted as artistic name Polystar Coréen. But for whatever reason they were never getting the chance to play lead. Thierry Mogratana claimed recently in an interview that when he joined Maison Mère, Werrason adviced him not to touch Flamme's guitar, giving the example that Polystar came in as a solist but ended up by become a rhythm-guitarist just because of touching Flamme's guitar. I don't know if it's true or Werrason just making it up to create a rivalery between the two guys (Flamme & Mogratana).

Mfumu Vata #4 on: May 14, 2023, 10:55

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I would like to know what Otis Lumumba's reasons where to stay in London. He was a talented rhythm guitarist. Aren't there interviews from him about his career on youtube ? Otis indirectly created for problems because when Japonais at some point decided to not show up anymore, they didn't had anyone to play rhythm for them anymore. They were forced to take Picass Mbayo who sometimes wasn't able to play the songs exactly how they were until Japonais coming back and both guys sharing that role.

At which point did Patrick Synthé left Maison Mère. I feel like he was better than Thierry Synthé. Where is he nowadays ?

Do y'all notice in the era of Zenith, Bercy, Olympia, the energy being given in concerts coming after it always being low ?

Seben_Maniac #5 on: May 14, 2023, 16:15

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I would like to know what Otis Lumumba's reasons where to stay in London. He was a talented rhythm guitarist. Aren't there interviews from him about his career on youtube ? Otis indirectly created for problems because when Japonais at some point decided to not show up anymore, they didn't had anyone to play rhythm for them anymore. They were forced to take Picass Mbayo who sometimes wasn't able to play the songs exactly how they were until Japonais coming back and both guys sharing that role.

At which point did Patrick Synthé left Maison Mère. I feel like he was better than Thierry Synthé. Where is he nowadays ?

Do y'all notice in the era of Zenith, Bercy, Olympia, the energy being given in concerts coming after it always being low ?

Like do you mean after 2003?

Mfumu Vata #6 on: May 14, 2023, 16:22

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During the tour of 2002. There was a point that Japonais left and Maison Mere not having a rhythm guitarist anymore which made get Picas. But after a few weeks Japonais returned back.