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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Jdog on February 18, 2014, 16:01

Title: Fally in Zambia
Post by: Jdog on February 18, 2014, 16:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gje0KN2PpV4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVR_h6cNkIc
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: Ken Bilele on February 19, 2014, 05:55
I fully agree with Wazekwa, Congolese musicians don't give their best when performing in Africa. Fally came to Nairobi and spent one hour just doing jokes on the stage, the same with Ferre who went to Dar and spent a lot of time just hugging women. What of if this show was somewhere in France? Is it because Africans pay less?
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on February 19, 2014, 07:44
Looks like he's got himself some nice thick girls, the type I like!!!

Like I've always said, these musicians don't understand what really sells their music. I wish people like archos could tell them that those who don't speak lingala got attracted to Congolese music because of the sebene, it's not the singing. Yes,some sentimental singing they like but only for a short period especially if the singer is good like Ferre,Fally, JB etc and they prefer the older songs. I think only Werra understands a bit of what am saying about how to perform for non lingala speakers as he goes straight for sebene or old Wenge songs which people can remember.

If you look at the crowd too, they are half asleep and don't bring energy sometimes even when sebene is playing, only a few drink individuals show that they are enjoying so these musicians should be able to analyse and see what they are doing wrong. Archos, please help them!!
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: Ken Bilele on February 19, 2014, 08:20
Looks like he's got himself some nice thick girls, the type I like!!!

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! say Quietly!! that is what some Kenyan men liked about Koffi choosing those Heavy women for his band. I have many confessions from many guys.
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: archos on February 19, 2014, 08:22
Man i have tried to talk to them several times,some even do not want me anywhere near them for saying the truth they dont  want to hear
or sometimes their staff members were almost shouting at me "do you know that you are talking to leader" and stuff like that
the day congolese musicians will be properly surrounded many many things will change
the only hope for them to understand things is some very high pressure from kinshasa fans,other than that at this state i dont see  how it will change

Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on February 19, 2014, 08:32
Man i have tried to talk to them several times,some even do not want me anywhere near them for saying the truth they dont  want to hear
or sometimes their staff members were almost shouting at me "do you know that you are talking to leader" and stuff like that
the day congolese musicians will be properly surrounded many many things will change
the only hope for them to understand things is some very high pressure from kinshasa fans,other than that at this state i dont see  how it will change
At least you've tried.
You know the musicians are burying themselves that's why the most popular music now is Nigerian music followed by coupe decalle, people want dancefloor songs not ballads.
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: Jdog on February 19, 2014, 15:59
I fully agree with Wazekwa, Congolese musicians don't give their best when performing in Africa. Fally came to Nairobi and spent one hour just doing jokes on the stage, the same with Ferre who went to Dar and spent a lot of time just hugging women. What of if this show was somewhere in France? Is it because Africans pay less?

Congolese musicians unfortunately have a reputation of playing better when they're out of Congo. 
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: Jdog on February 19, 2014, 16:18
Man i have tried to talk to them several times,some even do not want me anywhere near them for saying the truth they dont  want to hear
or sometimes their staff members were almost shouting at me "do you know that you are talking to leader" and stuff like that
the day congolese musicians will be properly surrounded many many things will change
the only hope for them to understand things is some very high pressure from kinshasa fans,other than that at this state i dont see  how it will change

Yebisa ngai ba leaders ya orchestre nini balingi ko yoka yo te.
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: archos on February 19, 2014, 16:25
Man i have tried to talk to them several times,some even do not want me anywhere near them for saying the truth they dont  want to hear
or sometimes their staff members were almost shouting at me "do you know that you are talking to leader" and stuff like that
the day congolese musicians will be properly surrounded many many things will change
the only hope for them to understand things is some very high pressure from kinshasa fans,other than that at this state i dont see  how it will change

Yebisa ngai ba leaders ya orchestre nini balingi ko yoka yo te.

de mpiano papa cheri,werra de la foret and especially ferré who i cant really approach anymore
i also speak often with wazekwa,he agrees with some things but there is alwas a "but"
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: Jdog on February 19, 2014, 23:03
Man i have tried to talk to them several times,some even do not want me anywhere near them for saying the truth they dont  want to hear
or sometimes their staff members were almost shouting at me "do you know that you are talking to leader" and stuff like that
the day congolese musicians will be properly surrounded many many things will change
the only hope for them to understand things is some very high pressure from kinshasa fans,other than that at this state i dont see  how it will change

Yebisa ngai ba leaders ya orchestre nini balingi ko yoka yo te.

de mpiano papa cheri,werra de la foret and especially ferré who i cant really approach anymore
i also speak often with wazekwa,he agrees with some things but there is alwas a "but"

Why don't they like to hear what we the fans have to say?? And what's always the "but" with Wazekwa?
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: archos on February 19, 2014, 23:10
the but with wazekwa is about sebene songs,he has told me he has plenty of sebene songs at home but the problem is that its difficult for him and musicians in general to find people who want to be dedicate a sebene song,he was even forced to transform what was basically a sebene song into a rumba or a folk rumba
by the way,on the mabanga topic i'll answer you tomorrow tonight i am a bit sick,off for a rest
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: Jdog on February 19, 2014, 23:16
the but with wazekwa is about sebene songs,he has told me he has plenty of sebene songs at home but the problem is that its difficult for him and musicians in general to find people who want to be dedicate a sebene song,he was even forced to transform what was basically a sebene song into a rumba or a folk rumba
by the way,on the mabanga topic i'll answer you tomorrow tonight i am a bit sick,off for a rest

He can just release it without mabanga and why don't people like to be dedicated on a sebene song and bonne guerison ndeko na ngai.
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on February 20, 2014, 05:36
I never went......my office sent me outside Lusaka...
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: shamala on February 20, 2014, 12:51
Congolese musicians don't give their best when performing in Africa.
Congolese crowd knows how to appreciate artists..imagine Zulema crooning to a Nairobi crowd he would be disappointed by the reception as opposed to the Kin crowd.I started a thread sometime on why most Congolese band would not be a hit in Kenya and I received a lot of flak. I attended Ferrer concert in Nairobi and the crowd was boring.
my take on ballads they are the way to showcase chanteurs skills..notice there are more chanteurs than atalakus. ballads also showcase instrumentalists skill..this is apart from the obvious..money from mabanga..

lastly what do you call ballads that turn to sebenes? would these be a compromise ?
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on February 20, 2014, 13:56
I started a thread sometime on why most Congolese band would not be a hit in Kenya and I received a lot of flak. I attended Ferrer concert in Nairobi and the crowd was boring.
How many of such shows have you attended? Maybe it's the crowds at that particular show. Like I said in the other thread, I know a great number of Kenyans and they all seem to love Ferre Gola, it's him they talk about mainly and if you go on the Yekola Lingala forum which is mainly comprised of Kenyans, the majority of songs they like to post are Ferre Gola ones and a few by Fally. I have seen 2 polls where people asked who was better between Ferre and Fally and from the comments Ferre was the winner on both polls.
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: shamala on February 20, 2014, 14:01
sly send me the link to yekola lingala..
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on February 20, 2014, 14:20
sly send me the link to yekola lingala..
https://www.facebook.com/groups/learnlingala/
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: shamala on February 20, 2014, 16:09
sly send me the link to yekola lingala..
https://www.facebook.com/groups/learnlingala/

thanks
Title: Re: Fally in Zambia
Post by: deanglo on February 20, 2014, 16:50
One of the all time great Congo musician is Docteur Nico besides Luambo. OK jazz. Dr. Nico's music inspired a lot of West African musicians that the highlife music stole a lot of bars from him. You heard Dr. Nico's music you know it is him.

Today the musicians all sound alike almost and the fans at the open concerts adore them, so they dont think they off the track for many others who are non lingala speakers.

THE ROUTE OF CONGOLESE MUSIC IS THE RUMBA AND I ENJOY IT IN ITS PURE FORM.