Author Topic: FINSTON MAMALE SEEMS TO NOT HAVE A GOOD MEMORY ABOUT KOFFI  (Read 940 times)

masatomo #15 on: November 04, 2018, 16:44

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Personally I don't understand for CNN. I thought he left because he saw Koffi fucking Sandra Lina. Maybe it happened right before Koffi made his list for Zenith,Lincoln Center & Effrakata.

Manzambi94 #16 on: November 04, 2018, 17:03

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Personally I don't understand for CNN. I thought he left because he saw Koffi fucking Sandra Lina. Maybe it happened right before Koffi made his list for Zenith,Lincoln Center & Effrakata.
Geez that Sandra Lina gettung fucked by Koffi despite her being with CNN honestly really shock me to these days, Iean that is pure cruelty.

Wenge1995 #17 on: November 05, 2018, 05:10

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The interview was not yet translated into English when I posted my response; you were right. Koffi was making it difficult for Mamale to continue on with the group, those petty games of gossip and sabotage were pushing him out.

Bundes36 #18 on: November 06, 2018, 15:46

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In fact in this interview he tried very hard to protect koffi's image...but everything crumbled when he was pressed to explain how he left the band.

Wenge1995 #19 on: November 08, 2018, 00:51

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Is it true that JF Ifonge created the dances from Attentat? If so then that justifies his recruitment. Because he can't sing, at least Depitcho had charm to work around his limits as a vocalist.

What made him disappear after Bercy? I remember him at the start of the concert, but he didn't perform the remaining setlist?

mvulusi96 #20 on: November 08, 2018, 01:38

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I don’t know. According to Chikito Mutakatif it was his creation. JF Ifonge always singing in concerts of Quartier Latin since the day they recruited him during the new year eve-concert in Brussels at Concert Nobles, going with them to countries like Zimbabwe, Zambia and Tanzania, seeing how Sam Tshintu and Modogo left and became a keymember from that day with Koffi praising him often in interviews.

Back in 1999 he was with Depitsho, Champion& Mamale one of those stars who were often going to television to give the program of Quartier Latin and attacking Papa Wemba, Academia & Nyoka Longo. JF Ifonge didn’t sing in Attentat because someone snitched to Koffi that he had a relationship with one of his dancers. Back in those days Koffi spending since the birth of Didi Stone (July ‘99) most of the time in Paris until Bercy and joining Quartier Latin if there was a concert in one of those African countries). So when Koffi heard it in Europe he decided to punish JF Ifonge by not letting him sing in Attentat. After the release of Attentat, 6 Quartier Latin-members started to make big car-accidents and many musicians started to get nightmares. JF Ifonge was one of those guys and almost died. Shortly after that Quartier Latin went to prepare the Bercy-show at Maman Amy’s house in Binza, but JF Ifonge wasn’t there because he got arrested He was lucky that he had French papers. Because that made him get French advocats who made him free. JF Ifonge arrived in Paris the same day when the concert was about to start. This all made him only dance in the intro part, Loi and Victoire.(Those who saw the show live on RTNC were really to see the complete show, like that of Olympia & Zenith). After that he decided to Quartier Latin, because he felt that something bad could happen. Don’t forget that some musicians lost their parents shortly after the Bercy-show. The same thing happened when Quartier Latin perform at Olympia, Mboshi loosing his mother, Dolce Somono losing his wife. So I think that that all scared him. In an interview he revealed that Depitsho had exactly the same nightmares he had.

Wenge1995 #21 on: November 08, 2018, 07:06

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That's crazy! I'm surprised that Somono was able to continue his music career so soon given that tragic loss, even Lofombo slowed down after his wife passed.

 That is interesting you mentioned that, didn't Fally Ipupa lose both parents when he joined Quartier Latin? I'm not a big believer of mystic forces, but perhaps those strings of tragedy and car accidents would have scared me away from being a member of Quartier Latin if I were in his shoes.

It seemed like Savenet and JF were the most hated members in any Congolese orchestra; Fally disliked them, Bouro disliked them, and that video the group did to clown Depitcho's vocals on Cameleon was rude (although funny).

Chikito should have been patient and remained in Quartier Latin; he danced better than Bouro and sang just as good as Fally. He wasted away trying to be apart of Pipiyus, since the ngulu ngulu affaire trapped him in Europe and made him a distant memory. Why would Koffi leave him behind for Bercy? Especially since the majority of the recruited members couldn't dance to save their life; Eric Tutsi, Lola, and Jipson (at that time).

Manzambi94 #22 on: November 08, 2018, 08:29

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I don’t know. According to Chikito Mutakatif it was his creation. JF Ifonge always singing in concerts of Quartier Latin since the day they recruited him during the new year eve-concert in Brussels at Concert Nobles, going with them to countries like Zimbabwe, Zambia and Tanzania, seeing how Sam Tshintu and Modogo left and became a keymember from that day with Koffi praising him often in interviews.

Back in 1999 he was with Depitsho, Champion& Mamale one of those stars who were often going to television to give the program of Quartier Latin and attacking Papa Wemba, Academia & Nyoka Longo. JF Ifonge didn’t sing in Attentat because someone snitched to Koffi that he had a relationship with one of his dancers. Back in those days Koffi spending since the birth of Didi Stone (July ‘99) most of the time in Paris until Bercy and joining Quartier Latin if there was a concert in one of those African countries). So when Koffi heard it in Europe he decided to punish JF Ifonge by not letting him sing in Attentat. After the release of Attentat, 6 Quartier Latin-members started to make big car-accidents and many musicians started to get nightmares. JF Ifonge was one of those guys and almost died. Shortly after that Quartier Latin went to prepare the Bercy-show at Maman Amy’s house in Binza, but JF Ifonge wasn’t there because he got arrested He was lucky that he had French papers. Because that made him get French advocats who made him free. JF Ifonge arrived in Paris the same day when the concert was about to start. This all made him only dance in the intro part, Loi and Victoire.(Those who saw the show live on RTNC were really to see the complete show, like that of Olympia & Zenith). After that he decided to Quartier Latin, because he felt that something bad could happen. Don’t forget that some musicians lost their parents shortly after the Bercy-show. The same thing happened when Quartier Latin perform at Olympia, Mboshi loosing his mother, Dolce Somono losing his wife. So I think that that all scared him. In an interview he revealed that Depitsho had exactly the same nightmares he had.
It was in that period that Fally lost his parents?

CM PRINCE #23 on: November 08, 2018, 09:49

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It seemed like Savenet and JF were the most hated members in any Congolese orchestra; Fally disliked them, Bouro disliked them, and that video the group did to clown Depitcho's vocals on Cameleon was rude (although funny).
Well actually I wouldn't go that far to say they were the most hated in any orchestra you're pushing it there. Fally didn't dislike them cause he was depitcho's pire petit and they knew each other since before QL and they're still close to this day just watch sur la route de bercy, Bouro was just jealous of depitcho becuase depitcho was beating him in dance battles (bouro also had the same problems with fally) but now depitcho and bouro are on good terms.
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CM PRINCE #24 on: November 08, 2018, 09:56

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This all made him only dance in the intro part, Loi and Victoire.(Those who saw the show live on RTNC were really to see the complete show, like that of Olympia & Zenith).
Hopefully one day the full RTNC Bercy show will be found and uploaded one day and that of zenith!
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Wenge1995 #25 on: November 08, 2018, 18:14

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@Manzambi94

I'm not certain as to the circumstances surrounding their passing, but I know his parents died in 1999 and 2000. That's the era of Fally's confirmation into Quartier Latin.

@CM PRINCE

I suspected Bouro Mpela and Fally Ipupa may have made up behind the scenes given their history, but I'm pleasently surprised that Depitcho is actually friends with them. It goes to show you that time heals all, unless you're JF Ifonge haha

mvulusi96 #26 on: November 08, 2018, 18:27

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This all made him only dance in the intro part, Loi and Victoire.(Those who saw the show live on RTNC were really to see the complete show, like that of Olympia & Zenith).
Hopefully one day the full RTNC Bercy show will be found and uploaded one day and that of zenith!

Hahahaha that will never happen.

mvulusi96 #27 on: November 08, 2018, 18:29

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@Manzambi94

I'm not certain as to the circumstances surrounding their passing, but I know his parents died in 1999 and 2000. That's the era of Fally's confirmation into Quartier Latin.

@CM PRINCE

I suspected Bouro Mpela and Fally Ipupa may have made up behind the scenes given their history, but I'm pleasently surprised that Depitcho is actually friends with them. It goes to show you that time heals all, unless you're JF Ifonge haha


They died somewhere in 2002, but not in 2000.

Wenge1995 #28 on: November 08, 2018, 18:32

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Thanks for the clarification! Why wouldn't they air the full concert? Did something bad happen in the original broadcast of Bercy 2000 of Koffi?

Did Deba O'Neil play rhythm guitar on Force de Frappe? Although I saw him with Koffi and the band for Bercy, he didn't appear for any of the concerts that followed leading up to the recording of the group album.
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mvulusi96 #29 on: November 08, 2018, 19:08

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Thanks for the clarification! Why wouldn't they air the full concert? Did something bad happen in the original broadcast of Bercy 2000 of Koffi?

Did Deba O'Neil play rhythm guitar on Force de Frappe? Although I saw him with Koffi and the band for Bercy, he didn't appear for any of the concerts that followed leading up to the recording of the group album.

Bro it was a big event. It was the first time that an African artist went to perform at Bercy which made people of RTNC going there to broadcast it live in Kinshasa, like they did with his Olympia & Zeniith of 1998 and Tabu Ley’s show at Olympia in 1970. After the show M6 & France 2 went to talk about that concert and all newspapers talked about it.

Koffi’s concert at Olympia, Zenith & Bercy were 6 hours long hahaha. So it’s normal that they cut alot parts out. The images of Bercy were bought by televisionchannel MCM Africa (which Trace Urban now) and they wanted to air that concert every week  they a 90 min VHS. That of Olympia was much longue (164 min).

That’s not true he apperead in many concerts that followed after Bercy, but he left just before they started recording Force de Frappe. Ridens Makosso & Felly Tyson both played rhythm and lead and some songs as mi-solist. Koffi Olomide was also credited as guitarist.