Author Topic: FLAMME KAPAYA EXPLAINS WHY HE BROKE HIS GUITAR  (Read 390 times)

archos on: October 07, 2019, 18:49

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He says during his last times with maison mere he already started having bad sensations over the world of music but since the devil when you work with him he wont let you go away so easy he fooled him to maintain him in the system and after he left the group he went and bought that double neck guitar with a lot of witchcraft symbolism done around it
after his album he went to work in musical comedy and the texts were quite a lot about satanic messages and he was at the same time feeling signs he should leave that world  and once they were meant to perform somewhere outside kin and he forgot his guitar at home so he sent somebody in kinshasa to bring the quitar where he was and he was surprised to find it strangely broken and not because of transport issue,and when he thinks about it now he believes God wanted to send him a message but he wanted to repair it at all costs because its a special Gibson he paid himself with his hard work(he explained that he managed to repair it himself because the professionals of it could not do it )
and when he got back home he also found his house is a complete unexplainable mess
when he went back to paris he found his macbook broken and his hard disk when he had a lot of things was not responding anymore
 later on he experienced a lot of strange sensations with the double neck guitar but at the same time God was restoring his life and he decided to break that guitar to destroy all the spirits and symbolism around that guitar
and he again said that people should not listen or play his old work because it was the devil's work
and he also said indirectly that he left maison mere because he heard and saw signs that he was about to be sacrificed to serve the group success and a couple of attempts of sacrifice on him failed (all the "ex-magicians" who do interviews say it that a lot of groups either caused death of people so that those dead people "work for the group" or they can "steal the soul" of one of their musicians dead naturally
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Manzambi94 #1 on: October 08, 2019, 10:12

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He says during his last times with maison mere he already started having bad sensations over the world of music but since the devil when you work with him he wont let you go away so easy he fooled him to maintain him in the system and after he left the group he went and bought that double neck guitar with a lot of witchcraft symbolism done around it
after his album he went to work in musical comedy and the texts were quite a lot about satanic messages and he was at the same time feeling signs he should leave that world  and once they were meant to perform somewhere outside kin and he forgot his guitar at home so he sent somebody in kinshasa to bring the quitar where he was and he was surprised to find it strangely broken and not because of transport issue,and when he thinks about it now he believes God wanted to send him a message but he wanted to repair it at all costs because its a special Gibson he paid himself with his hard work(he explained that he managed to repair it himself because the professionals of it could not do it )
and when he got back home he also found his house is a complete unexplainable mess
when he went back to paris he found his macbook broken and his hard disk when he had a lot of things was not responding anymore
 later on he experienced a lot of strange sensations with the double neck guitar but at the same time God was restoring his life and he decided to break that guitar to destroy all the spirits and symbolism around that guitar
and he again said that people should not listen or play his old work because it was the devil's work
and he also said indirectly that he left maison mere because he heard and saw signs that he was about to be sacrificed to serve the group success and a couple of attempts of sacrifice on him failed (all the "ex-magicians" who do interviews say it that a lot of groups either caused death of people so that those dead people "work for the group" or they can "steal the soul" of one of their musicians dead naturally
O.O so listening to his old work is listening to the devil? O.O I hope he is joking

archos #2 on: October 08, 2019, 21:50

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i believe  he thinks like that because of things he used to do,even if you watch his participation in clips it was very often unusual,unlike other soloists who were presented normally

mvulusi96 #3 on: October 08, 2019, 22:07

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i believe  he thinks like that because of things he used to do,even if you watch his participation in clips it was very often unusual,unlike other soloists who were presented normally

Thinking about this interview, the one Kakol talking about those Zaiko-solists and the one of Kojack dreaming that locked up in a prison before he almost died, made me think about the Sous Sol-videoclip. My nephew was always scared for the intro of the  Sous Sol-videoclip where Kapaya appears with a strange haircut in a boxing-ring surrounded by boxers with his guitar, being tortured by a boxer/bodybuilder who was holding him with a big chain. I never understood what the message was behind it and what it had to do with Werrason and Kakol coming to a volleyball-field.
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CM PRINCE #4 on: October 08, 2019, 22:14

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i believe  he thinks like that because of things he used to do,even if you watch his participation in clips it was very often unusual,unlike other soloists who were presented normally

Thinking about this interview, the one Kakol talking about those Zaiko-solist and the one of Kojack dreaming that locked up in a prison before he almost died. Made my think about the Sous Sol-videoclip. My nephew was always scared for the intro of the  Sous Sol-videoclip where Kapaya appears with a strange haircut in a boxring surrounded by boxers with his guitar, being tortured by a boxer/bodybuilder who was holding him with a big chain. I never understood what the message was behind it and what it had to do with Werrason and Kakol coming to a volleyball-field.
Thats so weird that you mention that... because my little  cousin was so scared of that intro too. Everytime he heard the beginning he would run and turn off the tv or computer because he was so scared. 

Manzambi94 #5 on: October 09, 2019, 00:25

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When I speak about these stuff you say I am tripping. What have I told you in Se Na Se Lyrics translation? Se Na Se means under and under or the under of under, with Ambulance making interviews about those weird stuff and spirit he represent. This is why sometimes I don't like Congolese musicians, I can understand they cone from a poverty line but there is a limit to everything, making pct with the devl for risking to die when you are young only for some temporary fame is stupid. Honestly I was never scared by any of the Werra's song but talking about it now they scare me a little bit. And I don't kbow if it is just me but I tend to be very annoyed when someone listen to God's songs when I am in the room. With that said if the songs are really devil's work I will delete it evem though it will be costly becauee I loved those songs. I don't want to have problems when I die and I don't want to push devil's work under any circumstances. I used to be skeptical too but when I saw Metro's eyes I wonderstood that God and the Devil are real and I am not a saint but I want to side with God.
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Manzambi94 #6 on: October 09, 2019, 00:46

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Furthermore Sous-Sol meams under the soil and I think is a clear reference to "that" world with Kapaya confirming undirectly. I used to love Congolese music but day after day I am disgusted by it, for real for real.

Wenge1995 #7 on: October 09, 2019, 01:17

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@Manzambi94

There's always been a spiritual element in the creative process of Wenge Musica; "Kibusia Mpimpa" is a kikongo phrase that describes a solar eclipse. That phenomenon in nature is often used as a pagan symbol. The same applies with the image of dragons which is used on the album sleeve, clips, and is the title for the generique. That's just based off what you can see as an outsider looking in, but just imagine the kinds of spiritual pacts and rituals they have done to confirm their success or inspire their creativity?

If the rumors of satanism in Congolese music are to be believed, then we have to accept that some of the most talented people in the group have been effected spiritually. Remember Patient Kusungila's mysterious stroke? What about Bon Bon Kojack's testimony about his problems in and the lengths he went to to protect himself?

After Kapaya left Masion Mere, his closeness to mystic practices became too overt with the guitar in the coffin. However any success Satan gives to you, a sizable price will follow and the debt will be collected. For the decade long winning streak Kapaya had in Masion Mere, he couldn't manage a solo career and his mind was going with his very strange public behavior. That's why he is so quick to distance himself from his past creations, no matter how much joy it gave us fans. Because we don't know the lengths he went to be as creative a soloist for so long...

princesab #8 on: October 09, 2019, 07:09

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Majority of the Music we listen to is Dirty.

If you want to stop, stop Now.... Cause even the beats and rhythm when set to right frequencies do ruin your head. Flute(s) attract snakes etc..

If you even listen to some gospel songs very clearly you will notice that they are dirty as well.

Someone might sing of the Love of God in a kind of a being to being relation.

SLK97 #9 on: October 09, 2019, 08:56

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I'm starting to think that us Congolese are probably the most superstitious people in the world.

Manzambi94 #10 on: October 09, 2019, 09:34

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Guys are these things real. Because yes some of them are real (and for the sceptical go search a guy called Metrau by BCBG he got blinded by an eye but no doctor could say what it was and this is scaring) and there are proof of Zobozi dying because he revelead those kindoki stuff and other things like that. Like Mukusa Mbwa making an interview from a grave, Fabregas and Robinio fucking dead people Bill Clinton opemly saying that he works with the dead people Wenge Misica BCBG (JB, WERRA ETC.) going to the kindoki guy and not telling a member what the kindoki guy told him "Tomorrow stay at home the first of you who will go outside will die with a member of Wenge Musica dying, BonBon Kojack doing a temoignage telling scary things. Koffi celebrating his then girlfriend's twins deaths, Luxembourg (I think is a sacrilege calling him Kimbangu, Kimbangu's name is too much sacre to be put in "that" world) saying that Miel De Son was the kindoki guy who tried ti unsettle evrybody, with Kimbangu claiming that the first time he came to La Zamba three fingers of one of his hand suddenly got bended without him controling them, describing also a dark doll who apparead out of nowhere and suddenly got blood all over with Werra being furious at the group telling to them how dare youbring satanism in my group (I think that was Teka if I am not msitaken and not Luxembourg) Heritier always kissing his massonic ring wherever he is in interviews and so much other material and proof that we must acknowledge.
I lvoe congolese music but I am not willimg to have something in my life for the sake of a good song. There is a reason why with the booming in Satanism in Congo there is also a boom in Christianity and other religion like Kimbanguisme (15 milion members) people are fed up with shit like this why do you think Gaz Mawete, Innoss'B, Alesh amd co. are not joining big groups and not even want to try the Ndombolo route

Manzambi94 #11 on: October 09, 2019, 09:44

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Guys are these things real. Because yes some of them are real (and for the sceptical go search a guy called Metrau by BCBG he got blinded by an eye but no doctor could say what it was and this is scaring) and there are proof of Zobozi dying because he revelead those kindoki stuff and other things like that. Like Mukusa Mbwa making an interview from a grave, Fabregas and Robinio fucking dead people Bill Clinton opemly saying that he works with the dead people Wenge Misica BCBG (JB, WERRA ETC.) going to the kindoki guy and not telling a member what the kindoki guy told him "Tomorrow stay at home the first of you who will go outside will die with a member of Wenge Musica dying, BonBon Kojack doing a temoignage telling scary things. Koffi celebrating his then girlfriend's twins deaths, Luxembourg (I think is a sacrilege calling him Kimbangu, Kimbangu's name is too much sacre to be put in "that" world) saying that Miel De Son was the kindoki guy who tried ti unsettle evrybody, with Kimbangu claiming that the first time he came to La Zamba three fingers of one of his hand suddenly got bended without him controling them, describing also a dark doll who apparead out of nowhere and suddenly got blood all over with Werra being furious at the group telling to them how dare youbring satanism in my group (I think that was Teka if I am not mistaken and not Luxembourg) Heritier always kissing his massonic ring wherever he is in interviews, Ferre who got massive success with his frist album with other people dying in Ferre's childhood street in the same day the album dropped and so much other material and proof that we must acknowledge.
I love congolese music but I am not willing to have something in my life for the sake of a good song. There is a reason why with the booming in Satanism in Congo there is also a boom in Christianity and other religion like Kimbanguisme (15 milion members) people are fed up with shit like this why do you think Gaz Mawete, Innoss'B, Alesh amd co. are not joining big groups and not even want to try the Ndombolo route

Manzambi94 #12 on: October 09, 2019, 10:09

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@Manzambi94

There's always been a spiritual element in the creative process of Wenge Musica; "Kibusia Mpimpa" is a kikongo phrase that describes a solar eclipse. That phenomenon in nature is often used as a pagan symbol. The same applies with the image of dragons which is used on the album sleeve, clips, and is the title for the generique. That's just based off what you can see as an outsider looking in, but just imagine the kinds of spiritual pacts and rituals they have done to confirm their success or inspire their creativity?

If the rumors of satanism in Congolese music are to be believed, then we have to accept that some of the most talented people in the group have been effected spiritually. Remember Patient Kusungila's mysterious stroke? What about Bon Bon Kojack's testimony about his problems in and the lengths he went to to protect himself?

After Kapaya left Masion Mere, his closeness to mystic practices became too overt with the guitar in the coffin. However any success Satan gives to you, a sizable price will follow and the debt will be collected. For the decade long winning streak Kapaya had in Masion Mere, he couldn't manage a solo career and his mind was going with his very strange public behavior. That's why he is so quick to distance himself from his past creations, no matter how much joy it gave us fans. Because we don't know the lengths he went to be as creative a soloist for so long...
I don't know who Patient Kusangila is can you please explain me the situation? Anyway yes I kmow the Bon Bon situation it was weird

mvulusi96 #13 on: October 09, 2019, 10:41

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aah oyebi Ya'Patient te ? Patient Kusangila was Wenge 4x4 rhythm-player and joined the BCBG-camp after the split as a bassplayer then he remained in Belgium and was contacted by Patcho Panda to join Wenge Maison Mere as rhythm-player since that they were looking for a rhythm-player. He was presented at Palais des Sports with a comedy show of Adolphe and Werrason. Then some months later he had a stroke during a concert in Dundo, Angola with alot of people claiming that Werrason tried to sacrifice him and other saying that it was because of he dad who was a bankdirector. After recovering from his stroke he came to Belgium on his own and participated to the Madeleine concert and then left, becoming later a brother in christ, but 3 years ago he made a comeback in "miziki ya mokili" and he rejoined Wenge BCBG last year.





The versions of Kusangila and Werrason about the situation are very different.



from 47:41 min the presentation of Patient Kusangila at Palais des Sports (it was so funny, Adolphe killed me).



Patient's only song in Clan Wenge.


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Cavalier Solitaire #14 on: October 09, 2019, 10:47

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i believe  he thinks like that because of things he used to do,even if you watch his participation in clips it was very often unusual,unlike other soloists who were presented normally
Yaya kindly check your private message.