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Matebu on: April 25, 2018, 05:34

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This is insane.. this is one of the sorcers figures artists go to with their misguided hopse of wanting to get more success through witchcraft. Even many politicians and public figures like Zacle participate in stuff
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Casual as hell with snakes all over him.

Back when Zacle was accused of really being a Zambian. Embarassing for "Honorable" Zacle


RIP Philemon Ndombele despite some of his viewpoints.
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Cavalier Solitaire #1 on: April 25, 2018, 11:55

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Back when Zacle was accused of really being a Zambian. Embarassing for "Honorable" Zacle

What people do for success is unimaginable. But then again these things are very common in almost every aspect of life for us Africans. Be it in business, music, athletix name it. Reminds me of this clip of Zambia vs Senegal African cup of nations U20 finals last year were a Senegalese player is throwing what is interpreted as juju in the opponents goal posts supposedly to help them win.


Lol and why was Zacle being accused of being Zambian? Did he ever stay in Zambia? And his name doesn't even sound Zambian. If he was Kasongo wa Kasongo or Mwamba, Kabengele it would make sense because these names are very common especially for people in Luapula Province of Zambia which shares the longest boarder with DRC.
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mvulusi96 #2 on: April 25, 2018, 12:29

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Ndombele (R.I.P.) died to early he knew alot about the history of Congo. I was liking his interviews alot.

Zacharie Bababaswe is a lulua. That tribe that lives in and around Kananga. Ndombele (R.I.P.) didn't like the way he attacked Bazombo (Angolan people), which made him call Zacle a Zambian to create confusion. At that time people in Congolese community were confused. Not knowing is who is who and the Congo being  invaded by neighbor  countries with the governement doing nothing against it. Angola who took some parts of Kahemba (in Bandundu), some islands in the Congo river next to Boma, a part of the Mayombe next to the border with Cabinda and oil from Banana. Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi who are already more than 20 years in the Congo. Zambia who took a part of Katanga, etc. The interview which Zacle made led to a conflict between Congolese and Angolan people with harsh attacks. Congolese people were also not appreciating the way Angolan soldiers were repressing Congolese people, alot being killed and many woman being raped by those soldiers. While DR Congo welcomed them since 1914 until their independece and also during the civil war, helped them with the war to get independece, etc. I remember people Kongo-Central wanting to do some revenge back in 2009/10 to people with Angolese roots who were there already since the 50's and 60's, but they made peace on the end, since that alot are in the politics and army now and fell more Congolese than Angolan, doesn't have family anymore there and made their brothers of Kongo-Central reminds them about their "kanda" (they are from the same tribe) which made them abandon to do that. With alot of people being 50% or 25% Angolan there.


mvulusi96 #3 on: April 25, 2018, 13:07

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Zacle really changed when he returned back to DR Congo in 2003. Starting to talk alot like a Parrot, getting conflicts with every artist and journalist. I remember that back in 2003 he gave a meeting in Stade des Martyrs. To confirm his succes. He was already popular when made those VSS-show to promote new bands like Extra Musica, SVP La Gamme (of Lacoste, Shella Mputu, etc.), Attraction Babylone, Lavignora Esthetique, etc. Becoming after the split of Wenge the most popular journalist of Kinshasa with his show Bazar interviewing musicians, fans, fanclubs, bandleaders of BCBG, Maison Mere, Quartier Latin, Viva La Musica, Zaiko, etc., settling later in Brussels and working for television of that city and first and only Congolese journalist and on the same time presenting the big events of our artists at Madeleine, Forest National, Zenith, Bercy and Olympia. With people in Kinshasa waiting for interviews made in Brussels and  Paris with fanclubs, artists and bandleaders. I think that Zacle could do more with his journalist-carreer in Brussels, by working in the future in for a bigger Belgian tv-channel or radiostation. But in 2003 he prefered to return in DR Congo and signed a contract with Skol, having also the ambition to change the life of journalists in Kinshasa(which he didn't do on the end),wanted also to be every influent like Werrason & JB (what he already was) by filling Stade des Martyrs. I guess that during that time he contacted those nganga's of Kinshasa who had the key of Kinshasa. Ken Mpiana & Patcho RFI discovered trought Matadi Kibala that he all famous gospel-singer of Congo signed the pact with the devil and they were surprised to see that.

The famous debate of Francis Kalombo (ex'manager of Wenge EL Paris, who started to supported Wenge BCBG) against Claude Maluma who wasn't very known at that time (claiming like many other Maison-Mere fans at that time that he is a Wenge 4x4. that he doesn't support Maison Mere and starting the gossip campaign against BCBG). Claude Maluma became not long after that Wenge Maison Mere's manager.



The famous interview of Alain Mpela & Tutu Calugi made when they returned in Kinshasa after their Europe/USA-Canada/Africa tour and mocking Wenge Maison Mere. Calling Wenge BCBG, Wenge Socimat and the Maison Mere-camp being very hurt. Since that they had nothing at that moment.



Sankara de Nkuta's first interview ever. Who was then close with Adolphe Dominguez. He started to praise Maison Mere about the concert they made at Cabinda. He was sent by the Maison Mere camp to attack JB Mpiana. Claiming that Werrason is the voice of Wenge with argument that Wenge started follow Victoria Eleison's rhythm (where Emeneya who is a 2eme voix was doing the lead). While we all know that JB Mpiana was the voice of Wenge, because he was doing all lead vocals. They did this interview to get attention from the BCBG-camp, which also happened.  With made the Maison Mere vs BCBG-interviews getting started. JB Mpiana replied and complained about Sankara attacking him and said that Maison Mere isn't on the level to perform at GHK, Palais du Peuple, etc. and other places who were destined to the elite., where they used to perform when Wenge 4x4 was still together. With JB being misunderstood by his fans of Tshangu and other places and them switching camps becoming fans of Wenge Maison Mere, already before the release of Intervention Rapide. With Werrason performing there and understanding why Wenge EL Paris was beating them always in confrontations when he was in Wenge 4x4. Discovering that Wenge EL Paris didn't have real fans, but that they were supporting them, because that Wenge 4x4 was more close to the youngsters of the elite. Hence why he gives Tshangu alot of respect. Because they made the star who he is.

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Cavalier Solitaire #4 on: April 25, 2018, 14:00

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Ndombele (R.I.P.) died to early he knew alot about the history of Congo. I was liking his interviews alot.

Zacharie Bababaswe is a lulua. That tribe that lives in and around Kananga. Ndombele (R.I.P.) didn't like the way he attacked Bazombo (Angolan people), which made him call Zacle a Zambian to create confusion. At that time people in Congolese community were confused. Not knowing is who is who and the Congo being  invaded by neighbor  countries with the governement doing nothing against it. Angola who took some parts of Kahemba (in Bandundu), some islands in the Congo river next to Boma, a part of the Mayombe next to the border with Cabinda and oil from Banana. Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi who are already more than 20 years in the Congo. Zambia who took a part of Katanga, etc. The interview which Zacle made led to a conflict between Congolese and Angolan people with harsh attacks. Congolese people were also not appreciating the way Angolan soldiers were repressing Congolese people, alot being killed and many woman being raped by those soldiers. While DR Congo welcomed them since 1914 until their independece and also during the civil war, helped them with the war to get independece, etc. I remember people Kongo-Central wanting to do some revenge back in 2009/10 to people with Angolese roots who were there already since the 50's and 60's, but they made peace on the end, since that alot are in the politics and army now and fell more Congolese than Angolan, doesn't have family anymore there and made their brothers of Kongo-Central reminds them about their "kanda" (they are from the same tribe) which made them abandon to do that. With alot of people being 50% or 25% Angolan there.

On the contrary @Mvulusi96, Zambia also had a problem pre-independence that emanated from the fact that Zambians of Congolese origin were treated with suspicion because 1) the failed seccession of Katanga province and 2) if you look at the map of Katanga it almost cuts Zambia into half and this is a mineral rich area of the so called Copperbelt (copper, cobalt, uranium, gold etc) . So the first president treated anyone with Congolese heritage in Zambia with suspicion and would therefore never admit publicly of their heritage in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

You might also want to read the article below:
https://eliasmunshya.org/2012/08/26/toxic-roots-why-zambians-of-congolese-origin-hide-their-heritage/

Bundes36 #5 on: April 25, 2018, 14:07

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Ndombele (R.I.P.) died to early he knew alot about the history of Congo. I was liking his interviews alot.

Zacharie Bababaswe is a lulua. That tribe that lives in and around Kananga. Ndombele (R.I.P.) didn't like the way he attacked Bazombo (Angolan people), which made him call Zacle a Zambian to create confusion. At that time people in Congolese community were confused. Not knowing is who is who and the Congo being  invaded by neighbor  countries with the governement doing nothing against it. Angola who took some parts of Kahemba (in Bandundu), some islands in the Congo river next to Boma, a part of the Mayombe next to the border with Cabinda and oil from Banana. Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi who are already more than 20 years in the Congo. Zambia who took a part of Katanga, etc. The interview which Zacle made led to a conflict between Congolese and Angolan people with harsh attacks. Congolese people were also not appreciating the way Angolan soldiers were repressing Congolese people, alot being killed and many woman being raped by those soldiers. While DR Congo welcomed them since 1914 until their independece and also during the civil war, helped them with the war to get independece, etc. I remember people Kongo-Central wanting to do some revenge back in 2009/10 to people with Angolese roots who were there already since the 50's and 60's, but they made peace on the end, since that alot are in the politics and army now and fell more Congolese than Angolan, doesn't have family anymore there and made their brothers of Kongo-Central reminds them about their "kanda" (they are from the same tribe) which made them abandon to do that. With alot of people being 50% or 25% Angolan there.

On the contrary @Mvulusi96, Zambia also had a problem pre-independence that emanated from the fact that Zambians of Congolese origin were treated with suspicion because 1) the failed seccession of Katanga province and 2) if you look at the map of Katanga it almost cuts Zambia into half and this is a mineral rich area of the so called Copperbelt (copper, cobalt, uranium, gold etc) . So the first president treated anyone with Congolese heritage in Zambia with suspicion and would therefore never admit publicly of their heritage in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

You might also want to read the article below:
https://eliasmunshya.org/2012/08/26/toxic-roots-why-zambians-of-congolese-origin-hide-their-heritage/
Cavalier Solitaire brother man are you Zambian?

Cavalier Solitaire #6 on: April 25, 2018, 15:17

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Manzambi94 #8 on: April 25, 2018, 20:01

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Government in Africa are only puppet guys controlled by you know who to divide us as Africans, I mean Genocide of Bakogo in Angola, like hate campaign in Congo DR, Rwanda and Burundi being involved in the Hutu and the Tutsi genocide, South African government killing the black people who came there for work when they were facing apart heid and so much more, I mean it is heartbreaking seeing my Africa being reduced like this by greedy people who only care about money and power.