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Sydo #15 on: September 06, 2020, 00:50

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: CM PRINCE on September 06, 2020, 00:46
Quote from: Musiquezairoise on September 06, 2020, 00:42
Quote from: CM PRINCE on September 06, 2020, 00:37
I don’t know what to think of this song, but yes that drumming Yikes! And why on earth would Defao prefer to release remixes then buy and record new songs.

The drums are programmed I think, or it's a drummer on an electric drum set. The way it's played reminds me of his old génériques.
The electric programmed drums have been overused for the past 10 years and it really pisses me off. We need real drum sets back cause this ain’t it.

Really, we can't compare the shitty drum lines of today with the one's of big drummers.
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Sydo #16 on: September 06, 2020, 00:51

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Matebu #17 on: September 06, 2020, 01:24

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Man, y’all are harsh critics. As a huge General Defao enthusiast, this is alright. One of the few decent releases of the year
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Sydo #18 on: September 06, 2020, 01:29

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: Matebu on September 06, 2020, 01:24
Man, y’all are harsh critics. As a huge General Defao enthusiast, this is alright. One of the few decent releases of the year

For me the rest is good, only the drums and promotion could be better.
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Wenge1995 #19 on: September 06, 2020, 02:42

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
I'm guessing Kinshasa doesn't have good studios to mix live drums
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CM PRINCE #20 on: September 06, 2020, 09:47

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: Musiquezairoise on September 06, 2020, 00:51
@CM PRINCE Have you seen Thierry Cap's. That guy has talent.
No who’s that?
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CM PRINCE #21 on: September 06, 2020, 09:48

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Quote from: Matebu on September 06, 2020, 01:24
Man, y’all are harsh critics. As a huge General Defao enthusiast, this is alright. One of the few decent releases of the year
I like it, it’s decent. It’s not fire like I expected but it’s better than the garbage we’ve gotten this year.
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CM PRINCE #22 on: September 06, 2020, 11:37

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: Wenge1995 on September 06, 2020, 02:42
I'm guessing Kinshasa doesn't have good studios to mix live drums
It does for example Koffi and Werra use live drums, Fabregas has used it once or twice, It’s just the rest.
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Cavalier Solitaire #23 on: September 06, 2020, 15:38

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: Wenge1995 on September 06, 2020, 02:42
I'm guessing Kinshasa doesn't have good studios to mix live drums
Oh maybe it could be the cost. In this era of self production, artists have to keep their costs as low as possible hence the use of electric programmed drums.
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Manzambi94 #24 on: September 07, 2020, 12:47

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
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I'm guessing Kinshasa doesn't have good studios to mix live drums
Oh maybe it could be the cost. In this era of self production, artists have to keep their costs as low as possible hence the use of electric programmed drums.


Exactly people sometimes forget how much expensive a studio fee is and how much expensive is too pay musicians to record especially drummers, guitarists and singers
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Wenge1995 #25 on: September 07, 2020, 17:41

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: Manzambi94 on September 07, 2020, 12:47
Quote from: Cavalier Solitaire on September 06, 2020, 15:38
Quote from: Wenge1995 on September 06, 2020, 02:42
I'm guessing Kinshasa doesn't have good studios to mix live drums
Oh maybe it could be the cost. In this era of self production, artists have to keep their costs as low as possible hence the use of electric programmed drums.


Exactly people sometimes forget how much expensive a studio fee is and how much expensive is too pay musicians to record especially drummers, guitarists and singers

They can afford to fly a whole band to Europe and tour, but not properly record an album in Kinshasa? I thought their labels would pay an advance for studio time and collect their percentage through sales or tours.
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Mfumu Vata #26 on: September 07, 2020, 18:17

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Congolese artists pay studio fees all by themselves since 2004. Labels don’t exist anymore in Congolese music
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Wenge1995 #27 on: September 07, 2020, 18:35

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: Mfumu Vata on September 07, 2020, 18:17
Congolese artists pay studio fees all by themselves since 2004. Labels don’t exist anymore in Congolese music

Is it because the rise of piracy? In America and Europe, music labels apply the 360 deal to recoup capital investments on albums. They'll apportion a percentage for themselves from your merchandising, tours, and paid appearances to increase their ROI.
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Manzambi94 #28 on: September 07, 2020, 22:36

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: Wenge1995 on September 07, 2020, 17:41
Quote from: Manzambi94 on September 07, 2020, 12:47
Quote from: Cavalier Solitaire on September 06, 2020, 15:38
Quote from: Wenge1995 on September 06, 2020, 02:42
I'm guessing Kinshasa doesn't have good studios to mix live drums
Oh maybe it could be the cost. In this era of self production, artists have to keep their costs as low as possible hence the use of electric programmed drums.


Exactly people sometimes forget how much expensive a studio fee is and how much expensive is too pay musicians to record especially drummers, guitarists and singers

They can afford to fly a whole band to Europe and tour, but not properly record an album in Kinshasa? I thought their labels would pay an advance for studio time and collect their percentage through sales or tours.

Wenge You got to undersrand the Congolese music system, unless se are talking about administration, usually musicians get paíd or have trip paid by donors the whole band flies to Europe because let's say Tabou Fatou paíd the ticket Kabuya Famous KB paid the ticket of Tangofor and Mimi Chikeva paid the ticket of Identitè and Guelor, Fally is not directly paying the trip but only collecting the money, if you take account of a standard Congolese Album let's say 15 tracks of a medium duration of 7 minutes knowing how many people must enter in there (singers, Atalakus, the choir, the bassist, drummers etc.) Is a lot of money plus, not always the singer or the Atalaku knows his part so maybe sometimes you mess up the lyrics and you need to start over. Fally can pay a drummer to make love drum sessions, but Defao... Come on he might be rich but clearly see he can cut his cost by reducing the drummer and maybe even Bass by using electronics, being a musician myself I can tell you that a good studio is 100 euro per hour only for the recording and plus 100 euro for the mixing of a singular song, now for making a 3 minutes song you usually take 2 hours (I am alone when I record and I make bats on FL STUDUI so I don't have any musician to pay) imagine how much long the recording can be for Congolese music? As listeners we want the song to he authentic as possible but we must understand that Congolese music is really expensive to make.
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Manzambi94 #29 on: September 07, 2020, 22:46

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Re: Général Défao ft Bozi Boziana - Qui a Dit Que (Clip Officiel)
Quote from: Wenge1995 on September 07, 2020, 17:41
Quote from: Manzambi94 on September 07, 2020, 12:47
Quote from: Cavalier Solitaire on September 06, 2020, 15:38
Quote from: Wenge1995 on September 06, 2020, 02:42
I'm guessing Kinshasa doesn't have good studios to mix live drums
Oh maybe it could be the cost. In this era of self production, artists have to keep their costs as low as possible hence the use of electric programmed drums.


Exactly people sometimes forget how much expensive a studio fee is and how much expensive is too pay musicians to record especially drummers, guitarists and singers

They can afford to fly a whole band to Europe and tour, but not properly record an album in Kinshasa? I thought their labels would pay an advance for studio time and collect their percentage through sales or tours.

The only Congolese guys who works with a label are Fally, Fabregas, Ferré, and to some extent Robinio Werra, Koffi, Wazekwa, Innoss B and many others are indioendent because they understood that every thing a label gives you is a loan you have to pay usually the label pays the studio yes but it is a cost you have to repay to them and that they will take bbtaking a piece of your revenue let's say the studio time costed 10 k dollars the label as soon as you make 10 k dollars with tours or through by revenue will recoupe the cost by taking the percentage.
I could explain further into it but BET and Jared Leto frontman of 30 Seconds to Mars made a brilliant job of explaining it in details how label works







Actually BET had a series called Rles to this s*** who helped artist not to get screwed but I can't find it anywhere the video you will see was by that series
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