Talking about spirituality, ramadan, islam and that having sex with a woman without being married is a sin and that Allah would not listen to your prayers. Also saying that all Stade des Martyrs are spiritually prepared and that Wazekwa failed because of not doing that.
Also talking about his collaboration with Madilu. Saying that Madilu was about to get arrested when coming from Europe, because of the chiefs of OK Jazz making a story up that he was talking bad about the authorities, etc.
Him explaining that Marie Paul doesn't have the right to talk bad about Werrason, giving then multiple examples of the past in Wenge 4x4, adding that if he couldn't mention Werrason, then he had not to mention Adolphe for the things Adolphe said about Marie Paul's mother when she passed away. I wonder what Adolphe exactly said.
When being asked about why he could not return as Marie Paul's spiritually advisor. He said that he struggled very hard when being the head. Explaing that when working on spiritually in the band, its not easy because many are fighting for the n1 spot as spiritual advisor. Giving the example, how he was in conflict with Francis Kalombo who used to be the president of Wenge El Paris. Francis Kalombo was the person who brought Wenge El Paris to Kinshasa in 1992 for a few concerts (Intercontinental, Bar moto na moto abongisa in Bandal and Mobutu's daugther wedding) but him being fired in 1994 by Zing Zong & Marie Paul. In their opinion, Francis Kalombo was scamming them by getting a big part of the money from Kongolo Mobutu. Francis Kalombo then not being happy because next to be spiritual advisor, he was also president of the band and said that Hassan that he would do nothing from the moment he left. But Hassan kept fighting and in his opinion he did more work than Francis Kalombo because, in 1992 they came for just a few concerts but when they came in 1993 they stayed for a long time (them on the end ending up by getting blocked in Kinshasa by Kongolo Mobutu) and even confronted their rivals Wenge 4x4. Marie Paul for like 7 years being nominated for the category "best star of the year". But since he left nothing happening in El Paris. He also talked again about how people of El Paris' staff tried not get him out, by trying to connect Marie Paul to other spiritual advisors when he moved to Europe. In meantime Hassan meeting Marie Paul's ex donor/sidechick Zulu 21, her explaining to him why their relation went off, but Hassan still convincing her to let Wenge El Paris to Europe. But Marie Paul when coming in Europe not listening to him anymore, because of being influenced by other spiritual advisors. Hassan not wanting them to perform at LSC, saying that they have to prepare the concert spiritually since that "terrain ezalaki miné" and the tour may flop if the concert would not sold out. But Marie Paul not listening and saying that his spiritual advisor in Kinshasa said that it would rain and the big amount of rain would be the big amount of people in the hall, the concert later ending up by flopping.
Towards the end they talked about bandleaders and Hassan explaining that bandmembers could not do nkisi on their bandleaders because of the bandleaders being spiritually suprior to them. Saying that its bandleaders choice himself to bring x or y to Europe and not that he was influenced trough nkisi, giving the example how Mustapha took Babia's clothes before Bercy, because of Babia being distracted, saying that Mustapha said the story to Hassan himself (version about Mustapha change everything, the other time they he went in the place of Chikito, then Spino, etc.). Also giving them the example of how Manda Chante tried to make from El Paris his band and before leaving sending a 2ème voix singer (I think Kene-Kene) to go a sorcerer and the sorcerer saying that he had to give Marie Paul a handshake and that he would have fame by stealing his power through the handshake. But when meeting Marie Paul, getting scared and the singer snitching everything.
