Author Topic: INTERESTING INTERVIEW OF ATALAKU EQUALISEUR  (Read 770 times)

archos on: June 02, 2023, 15:10

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He talks about his background saying he was originally destined to be an urban engineer like his father who is regional director of the organism in charge of that,but at some point music caught up with him in school he was classmates with arc en ciel and without his parents knowing he was performing in those street groups along with arc en ciel and other friends,then one day his mother caught him trying to escape home late in the night and understood that he was doing music
his first step closer to professional music was with do akongo along with robinio and co after fudji had left to join bcbg then months later eboa went to maison mere, he then went around 2002 2003 in bcbg where he had to be tested  by genta who was one of the guys in charge of recruitment and as it was happening in those days you'd go straight into rotation in groups if you were backed by powerful people in the group or you caught the eye of leader himself,so genta who was then "only" vice chef de repetition could not bring all the guys he had  recruited outside of group tests so they did workshops together where there was him lobeso bercy identite and co and since they were creating together along with mignon abraham who was helping out with dances,it would boost genta and abraham's influence to use their work so they did that,he reveals for example that the "patou solo original"part  of bongolowayi generique was a modification of an animation he was doing with arc en ciel way back in the days and many more,then as he was growing impatient of not getting access to a proper chance he went to work with papy tshimanga then went to quartier latin when acide stayed in europe but he could not stay there long because his voice was attacked spiritually by the atalakus there
 and one year after when fally was about to release droit chemin he started to recruit musicians and he was taken there where he found the likes of atele,blaise createur,dvd and co
he talked about their first trip to olympia,and said that they were struggleing to get visas,and fally at some point told them to slow down on witchcraft because sometimes too much witchcraft within a group brings bad luck in some projects and the embassy of france asked other artists if they were real artists because fally applied for 100 visas and other artists said no its not a real group its ngulus and fally ended up receiving 10 visas  so he had to have a tough selection,and equaliseur says in such cases when you are complete its a bonus,he fitted all leaders like to have good looks,singing,animation and dancing so he was assured to be on the list,and he remembers somebody like atele who was bad in dancing almost let himself get hit by a truck out of pain when he discovered he was not making it to the list
when they arrived in gabon something happened with a bird entering jet engine so they had to go back to congo brazza and luckily they arrived in time
he said they were meant to be session group but in reality it operated like other group with suspensions,tricks and all that and that fally wanted to promote himself a lot and that he thinks somehow koffi promoted him bouro and co because they were more complete than him,way better dancers,whereas in the case of fally being already he wanted to focus on himself a lot
vincent tries to bully him into the route of insinuating he made no effort to be known and that he was known only because of fally's desire,and he says no he does not deny that fally gave him some importance advice but he did not really boost him much like it happened to himself,he also made a name for himself because of his natural aura and how he worked hard along with fally's advice,he was one of the first faces to be known in the fally group even before they had a chance to record something but insists he did not benefit from a real desire to promote him like in the oldschool days and he gave example of when they recorded arsenal de belle melodies,it was the generique arsenal de belles melodies which was meant to be the main one where fally put all his hope on,but he thinks fally did a 12 on him because they shot the clip well,and suddenly to his surprise fally did another clip in europe and pretended that the tape of the  kin clip was burnt which he had never heard as an excuse so he doubt it was really true and even if true they could have restarted
the other generique bicarbonate was done in kin by kabuya doubai and co and him as the lead atalaku  had then to add something
he was asked about the period where he got europe papers and he said he got europe papers with fally's argument and that fally told him to inform him directly if he has to go to europe on his own because it would create jealousy in the band if others know,and there was a situation where he went to europe on his own with his own ticket and suddenly naty lokole called him to say that he should come back quicker than planned because there is a concert where fally wants him and he said he is ok with it but they have to pay him ticket back because he did not plan it like that,and nathy tshiba and fergany who were three of the most influential staff members of fally and who for some had a beef already with him(surely about the dancer he was dating which whoever of them wanted for himself) fuelled fally with the fact that he became stubborn and twisted his response to make it as if he said that him and fally were on same level now because he also had papers,and fally called kin before tv show of nathy lokole to order his spokesman alain nzambe to roast him and say he's suspended for lack of discipline, but alain did not want to do that since he knew the reality and also was getting along well with equa so alain was fired by fally like that on that moment and nathy accepted to handle it himself to announce that he is fired from the group " for paternity leave" to make it look like an innovative thing like he did with session group system (i am sure old members of the forums remember that episode well)
then later on he went to quartier latin and he says he has a lot of good memories from his time there,it was the first time that he had a monthly salary ever since doing music,and vincent interrupted him saying that he hurt people when he talked about payment in fally's group and he said he never said that he was never paid in fally's group just that both the price and the structure were different with fally it was after each concert
about the fact that fally "made him" he said fally picking him in his group gave him a platform but his own efforts and luck did  the rest,its like fally himself there has been loads of stars in quartier latin and he the big star he is today its because of his own determination and dedication and luck so he does not understand why people take it bad when he likes to put things into context about fally "making" him
then later on he went to quartier latin after trying all he could to make fally change his decision and one of fally's main donors simplice ebata from brazza called him to see him about the fact he was making steps to go back to fally's group and that he managed to convince fally to give it a possible chance and he said he will think about it,and the camp of nathy lokole and co fearing that with his uncertain answer he could go on tv to say that fally's people are approaching him to rejoin fally
koffi received an anonymous call "snitching" that he was in brazza negotiating for a return while he accepts meeting the donor in the first place because he wanted to be polite and hear what he had to say to him
and from then since koffi still had a fresh pain from the massive exodus of his male stars he decided to make cindy rework the generique equa had done and became very distant with him until he left
after that he tried to join maison mere(and bcbg a bit before) but both groups admins blocked the move to protect relationship with fally( which for example helped fusee go from 6th to 3rd atalaku in no time)
he was asked about pitshou luzolo who was with them in early stages then completely disappeared and he said unlike what people think he did not run away in europe or was not allowed to stay in europe like people around fally were pretending,what happened is that he got dropped from the list to stade the france following arguments with nathy and co  and since he knew already how to handle paperwork for visa and co for himself he helped out pitshou and pitshou did a new passport and managed to come to europe on his own and has chosen to live a normal life  away from spotlight
and he was asked who he'd rather rejoin if it was possible and he said without hesitating koffi,because koffi has his good and bad side but the good thing with him he does not hold grudges for long,and despite an eventful end of his time in quartier latin today they still talk with koffi on text messages like nothing ever happened,whereas with fally once you become an enemy its almost impossible to change it he tries several times to write to him and make sure they remain on cordial terms as he is grateful for his time around him which helped build his career but his messages were ignored

Mfumu Vata #1 on: June 03, 2023, 02:28

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Was it Arc en Ciel who used to animate in Victoria Eleison that he's talking about ? Btw was it Arc en Ciel or Mulo Scanto who started his career in Depitcho's band ? It  seems that a big part of the new recruited musicians of Victoria just before Zenith came from Depitcho's band (Fila Basele and Yannick Zenith who was recruited as back-up drummer for Signore Depatra but didn't make it for Zenith).

I dont remember if it was in Ado Yuhe's interview or somebody else, where Equalizer said that he came with the most cri's in Kipala Nzonzaku. Citing the cri's toko mela primus pona makasi ya mokongo (which was first toko mela tangawisi ya mere mado pona makasi ya mokongo), pantalon ngumba,  muana bato and delapatria. Roi David also claims to be part of the many atalaku's that were in Gentamicine circle and said that he created the part "tala ba nzele batonga nzoto pona primus eeh" in Primus Ngwasuma which originally "tala ba nzele basi bazo sambuisa nzoto pona portable eeh". If you look well, most generiques are not created by the atalaku's themselves and them working with a whole team. This make those who are pro-bandmembers saying when there discussions about copyrights and why generiques are credited to the atalaku's but to bandleaders, them giving this as arguments why bandmembers credit the generiques to themselves because the atalaku's not being the original creators of it.




Back in the days wasn't liking Equalizer. I used to hate his voice and saw him as a faux atalaku. It's only when he did the generique with Fabregas and later joining Quartier Latin with the cri "Azo lia na nani" that I started to like him. I wasn't liking Fally's band at all (singers, guitarists, atalaku's, the looks of most musicians, etc.), seeing most of his concerts as boring and prefering Ferre's band. I was doubting Fally's skills of recruiting musicians, only to hear him admit in an interview he did with Saint Marc during the Olympia-days that most of the musicians were his childhood friends when Saint Marc asked Fally if his musicians are really competent when comparing to bands like Maison Mere, Quartier Latin and co.



Its always strange and crazy to hear that many atalaku/singers started all together and know each other. But when joining other groups, them attacking each other and not greeting, also acting like they dont know each other



When seeing the DVD of A2BM I was wondering why Fally did the clip of the generique on his own with some girls. I wasn't liking the way the girls were dancing in the clip.



The period after Abacadabra was the right moment for Koffi to release a new group-album and give his singers, guitarists and atalaku's light. You had Ronsard Kanza who came also from Fally's band, Omba and Poupa Mystique who started to make alot of tv-appearances. I remember Koffi announcing an EP with only generiques and two or 1 rumba (it was made to fight Power and Boite Noire) for december 2012 and a group album called Suprematie for 2014. But instead of that he changed his mind and replaced the voices of his atalaku's by that of Cindy in the generiques to make from the project Cindy's solo album. To not lose Cindy like Fally with Droit Chemin, he didn't gave her the freedom to record new songs, but  just let her record remix versions of some of his old songs. The album ended up by flopping and only the generique Libebe with was orginally that of Equalizer doing a little bit well.



Equalizer her changed the version of the reason why he left. In in the years just after his departure, he claimed that he left because of Koffi started to do 12 on him after having praised both Fally and Koffi in an interview he made Noella Madinga, when being asked about who having succes among Congolese artists in Ivory Coast at that moment and him replying that it were Koffi and Fally.

archos #2 on: June 03, 2023, 08:57

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no arc en ciel the soloist of maison mere
i think both happened because i know the message to koffi version long ago he said it in an interview and i asked aswell back then  around dicap's circle i was told that it was coco dilasso the main dicap jester who did that mission, and about the interview with noella him being somebody with character,surely did the fally praise on purpose because koffi was already doing a lot of 12 on him after that, taking the mic in a brutal way and giving to another atalaku or cindy  during concerts and not paying him anymore,not allowing him to go to europe to see his daughter
i think its the following week that his suspension was announced during interview of  sypo jazz or somebody like that then he came to counter that he had signed a contract on paper they cannot suspend him on tv like that he wants a suspension paper
yeah whats sad is that most of them once they adopt the beef mode because of being in rival groups it stays like that even in private,bercy and equa for example have scars on their bodies for figthing against each other when bercy joined ferre,while they were sharing the same bed when living with genta

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archos #3 on: June 03, 2023, 10:39

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thinking about it the almost 100 visas fally wanted(to do like his elders) was probably one of the reasons they complicated things for him and had him to get 10 and to put his papers on the line should one of them not return

Wenge1995 #4 on: June 03, 2023, 14:29

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Was it Arc en Ciel who used to animate in Victoria Eleison that he's talking about ? Btw was it Arc en Ciel or Mulo Scanto who started his career in Depitcho's band ? It  seems that a big part of the new recruited musicians of Victoria just before Zenith came from Depitcho's band (Fila Basele and Yannick Zenith who was recruited as back-up drummer for Signore Depatra but didn't make it for Zenith).

I dont remember if it was in Ado Yuhe's interview or somebody else, where Equalizer said that he came with the most cri's in Kipala Nzonzaku. Citing the cri's toko mela primus pona makasi ya mokongo (which was first toko mela tangawisi ya mere mado pona makasi ya mokongo), pantalon ngumba,  muana bato and delapatria. Roi David also claims to be part of the many atalaku's that were in Gentamicine circle and said that he created the part "tala ba nzele batonga nzoto pona primus eeh" in Primus Ngwasuma which originally "tala ba nzele basi bazo sambuisa nzoto pona portable eeh". If you look well, most generiques are not created by the atalaku's themselves and them working with a whole team. This make those who are pro-bandmembers saying when there discussions about copyrights and why generiques are credited to the atalaku's but to bandleaders, them giving this as arguments why bandmembers credit the generiques to themselves because the atalaku's not being the original creators of it.




Back in the days wasn't liking Equalizer. I used to hate his voice and saw him as a faux atalaku. It's only when he did the generique with Fabregas and later joining Quartier Latin with the cri "Azo lia na nani" that I started to like him. I wasn't liking Fally's band at all (singers, guitarists, atalaku's, the looks of most musicians, etc.), seeing most of his concerts as boring and prefering Ferre's band. I was doubting Fally's skills of recruiting musicians, only to hear him admit in an interview he did with Saint Marc during the Olympia-days that most of the musicians were his childhood friends when Saint Marc asked Fally if his musicians are really competent when comparing to bands like Maison Mere, Quartier Latin and co.



Its always strange and crazy to hear that many atalaku/singers started all together and know each other. But when joining other groups, them attacking each other and not greeting, also acting like they dont know each other



When seeing the DVD of A2BM I was wondering why Fally did the clip of the generique on his own with some girls. I wasn't liking the way the girls were dancing in the clip.



The period after Abacadabra was the right moment for Koffi to release a new group-album and give his singers, guitarists and atalaku's light. You had Ronsard Kanza who came also from Fally's band, Omba and Poupa Mystique who started to make alot of tv-appearances. I remember Koffi announcing an EP with only generiques and two or 1 rumba (it was made to fight Power and Boite Noire) for december 2012 and a group album called Suprematie for 2014. But instead of that he changed his mind and replaced the voices of his atalaku's by that of Cindy in the generiques to make from the project Cindy's solo album. To not lose Cindy like Fally with Droit Chemin, he didn't gave her the freedom to record new songs, but  just let her record remix versions of some of his old songs. The album ended up by flopping and only the generique Libebe with was orginally that of Equalizer doing a little bit well.



Equalizer her changed the version of the reason why he left. In in the years just after his departure, he claimed that he left because of Koffi started to do 12 on him after having praised both Fally and Koffi in an interview he made Noella Madinga, when being asked about who having succes among Congolese artists in Ivory Coast at that moment and him replying that it were Koffi and Fally.

I was surprised by how weak Fally's group was, they're limited in dancing and lack personalities. You'd think he'd be very good at spotting talent because of his time with Koffi

archos #5 on: June 03, 2023, 17:16

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i think he has it,but its just not his policy to really promote like he was promote,himself use to say in some of the interviews of his first 5 years of solo that he's brought the guys to follow him in his shadow but he'd rather produce or mentor musicians(kinda like he does not with robinio gaz mawete and co)
heritier used to say when he started his group that he chose to start his group with mostly known guys because david monsoh told him not to do like fally and pick shadow guys i dont know if he said that just for polemic or what but monsoh being a guy with good knowledge of our music certainly knew that in congo groups are meant to make big stars apart from the leaders
proof he always has favorites among heritier's musicians because he has an eye on that
unfortunately now even those known for promoting well behave like solo artists with session musicians


Mfumu Vata #6 on: June 03, 2023, 19:41

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thinking about it the almost 100 visas fally wanted(to do like his elders) was probably one of the reasons they complicated things for him and had him to get 10 and to put his papers on the line should one of them not return

it was not a smart move from fally. almost all bandleaders and bands used to start with 12 or 14 visa's. Wenge went during the tour of 1991 with just 9 musicians + = kija brown and in the following  tours progressively coming with bigger lists and including ngulus. wenge maison mere went with 16 during their first tour, koffi came with 11 people in 1992.

so everything what fally said indirectly in interviews about koffi sending people to call the embassady to not give them visa's, treath them were not true ?


archos #7 on: June 03, 2023, 20:25

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I think he was fought "ndenge ezalaka" either by koffi or whoever because as you know since forever its never easy to just come and succeed like that in front of elders some might "test " you and once you handle it you are ready for a long solo career
but the vieux around him surely advised him to go with such a big list so that they can all have ngulus in it
if he asked 20 for example or 15 he would not be under such pressure that they had to track every move of equa,ronsard,zagalo,konga,choumen,mijo synthe,kasangidi,tony,pitchou luzolo and if just one left the french authorities threatened to strip him off his papers
on an another field he was extremely smart in bringing his group a lot of times even just "pona ko creer kaka mua actualite" it has paid off with french authorities now having a lot of respect and confidence towards him and making him get 30 35 visas which is a lot by the post-ngulu standards

Wenge1995 #8 on: June 03, 2023, 20:36

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I think he was fought "ndenge ezalaka" either by koffi or whoever because as you know since forever its never easy to just come and succeed like that in front of elders some might "test " you and once you handle it you are ready for a long solo career
but the vieux around him surely advised him to go with such a big list so that they can all have ngulus in it
if he asked 20 for example or 15 he would not be under such pressure that they had to track every move of equa,ronsard,zagalo,konga,choumen,mijo synthe,kasangidi,tony,pitchou luzolo and if just one left the french authorities threatened to strip him off his papers
on an another field he was extremely smart in bringing his group a lot of times even just "pona ko creer kaka mua actualite" it has paid off with french authorities now having a lot of respect and confidence towards him and making him get 30 35 visas which is a lot by the post-ngulu standards

Do you know why Ronsard and ibrahimovic left F Victeam? They had so much promise, didn't they end up in QL?

archos #9 on: June 03, 2023, 22:25

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I think ronsard there was an issue with a female dancer plus he started voicing his disagreement with payment issues(because sometimes the guys in charge of paying were chewing money) so he ended up leaving
i remember a week or something after he announced that he left he was in a nightclub by cambodge and he came after to a tv show with torn clothes
eric i think something about payment aswell which was reported to the chefs or to the boss himself(you know how it is to maintain trust the guys like to snitch a lot even if they have to completely create,it makes them look loyal and devoted) then his vocal in catafalque was remove during concerts first then in clip before he ended up leaving after he was physically manhandled by the bodyguards at a rehearsal and stopped coming to rehearsals after that for a while then tried to joined maison mere via his friend heritier
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Mfumu Vata #10 on: June 03, 2023, 22:43

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Wasn’t it something about papers and people in Fally’s circle not being happy about it and him also openly criticizing Alain Nzambe on tv. Anyway, he has an interview with Ado Yuhe which on YouTube and him talking about his departure.



Back in those days I didn’t knew any bandmember of F-Victeam. Only Kassangidi, just because of his cri. Back then I though that he & Kabuya were the same person. It’s only years later that I discovered Alvarito when someone explained to me that was in Wenge Kumbela. I knew Equalizar ‘s name because of Bjone always posting about him on his Facebook and skyrock page. But I didn’t know who he was
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Wenge1995 #11 on: June 04, 2023, 01:02

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Wasn’t it something about papers and people in Fally’s circle not being happy about it and him also openly criticizing Alain Nzambe on tv. Anyway, he has an interview with Ado Yuhe which on YouTube and him talking about his departure.



Back in those days I didn’t knew any bandmember of F-Victeam. Only Kassangidi, just because of his cri. Back then I though that he & Kabuya were the same person. It’s only years later that I discovered Alvarito when someone explained to me that was in Wenge Kumbela. I knew Equalizar ‘s name because of Bjone always posting about him on his Facebook and skyrock page. But I didn’t know who he was

F Victeam didn't take the initiative to make themselves known the way previous generations did like how QL and Wenge members went on TV to defend their group or promote themselves.

Mfumu Vata #12 on: June 04, 2023, 01:12

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You can't compare them to Quartier Latin and Maison Mere. The generations you in those bands and songs on their names which pushed them appear on tv to promote it and also the polemic helped alot. Because bandleaders wouldn't lower themselves to attack their rivals and them just using their musicians and spokemen to diss them and praise/brag about their shows and  tours they did.

Those who hadn't songs on their names or doing vocals, but still making tv-appearances were new-members that bandleaders were presenting in concerts and them getting succes because of those extracts that were shown on tv about doing some improvisations. Them later going to tv-shows to make themselves known. Back in the days you Heritier Watanabe before Double Zenith, Dany Kule of Nouvelle Ecriture, later Mirage Supersonic. Ferre Gola's team had also succes because of those concerts that were shown on tv with the singers getting space to do vocals.