Author Topic: INTERESTING INTERVIEW OF JF IFONGE ABOUT WENGE EL PARIS  (Read 486 times)

archos on: October 06, 2020, 14:37

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He says he arrived in europe because he had turned 18 and as a french citizen had to do military service,then he meet his childhood friend cesar loboko who was then in the just born/soon to be officially born wenge el paris,and depitcho at that time arrived in europe to play football while he lies to people that he came to study( he will say later in interview that depitcho champion djikapela and fally were great footballers)
 jf says he became an el paris memberbecause one day marie paul was sick and missed concert they were looking for somebody to do his parts but none of the guys were doing it then cesar suggested ricoco to give jf a try but ricoco said "common what a soldier can to do in wenge" but he insisted until ricoco said okay and he did marie paul's part so well that he got offered several gifts and remained in the group like that and the likes of depitcho and jdt arrived in  following months
then at some point there was conflict between the 4 admins( zing,marie paul,ricoco and aime bwanga) so they split and he went with ricoco and aimé
before the split jf reveals marie paul absolutely wanted him to go to kin in that risky tour,but he refused  because cesar was not going so he  wanted to remain loyal to his friend who brought him in the group
he also at the start of interview sent condolences to the agbepa family,and said maman amy was like a mother to him and as everybody knows he lived with them in kinshasa,actually sleeping in koffi's childhood room so he is touched
teddy tells him to react to depitcho's interviews and he says he does not understand depitcho's attitude,he'll fool people with that "wisdom attitude" but deep down he is basically acknowledgeing almost nobody in wenge el paris  or quartier latin, and thats the signs of somebody too full of himself and gives his own example saying yes he has strong character too but it will never make him lose something to acknowledge various contribution to his past career of musician
he says he came to el paris concerts because he was a big fan of marie paul and that he was so much a fan of marie paul that in his days in el paris,he gave his french papers to marie paul in case he is controlled which marie paul himself revealed before him
he says when depitcho arrived he was quite contested in the group people did not like him much but him and marie paul liked him and marie paul worked on his image,saying  him marie paul he will attack blaise to compete as the best 2eme voix of clan wenge,jdt will copy jb to confront him in terms of looks and stage presence,jf will face werra as they have similar sense of agressive shows and him depitcho will face adolphe in terms of "sape" wearing expensive clothes and so on and until told  depitcho barely acknowledge anything from marie paul and acts like he arrived in el paris a ready made star which is not well
then he says when he did his solo album which was doing well in africa koffi approached him to join quartier latin,and reveals he was wanted also by kester to go to kin to create dream team dream team(surely recommended by gina wa gina),by papa wemba to join nouvelle ecriture  and later by bcbg to replace blaise bula or fill the werra void and by the way he says that he is the person who suggested jdl to become a full time singer, he was playing keyboards in el paris and singing foreign music before concert kicks the way makaba and kusangila did in 4X4 and he was singing very well then so he suggested him to go to bcbg
he says he is not ashamed to say he inspired himself of many great singers and even until today in gospel at times he goes low like he learned next to modogo,high like jb or tabuley and so on, while depitcho says nobody arround him in his musical career inspired him
and he wants him to change that behaviour because he loves him and he reveals that they actually knew each other without realising when aged 5 6 as their parents prayed together and they were playing together and when he joined quartier latin depitcho's father depitcho ask that new guy koffi brought in if he is the son of papa florentin which jf said yes and they became close in quartier latin,but to his surprise depitcho tried to put spell on other quartier latin members including him,and he discovered it one day as depitcho was dating miette chegue but at the same time that day depitcho meet one of his sidekicks so it created a big argument and miette told him in front of people "dont mess with me,i am not jf who you made to eat kebabs you went to work on with sorcerers so that koffi loves you the most and who still blindly follows you"( he actually has been talking about somebody from quartier latin who did that for 5 years straight without revealing it was depitcho) and jf said he was so shocked and he was trying to throw up those kebabs
he got arrested in kinshasa because in the house of koffi's parents, there was an extra room they rented to a guy who was working with secret services of governement and jf was telling koffi's late dad that he heard people saying that kabila senior would be killed and the guy reported it,so one day when he was about to go to airport for a quartier latin trip he got arrested and he says he is very grateful to depitcho for having visited him several times even though today depitcho acts like he does not even know a jf exists on earth
then once in prison  despite koffi's intervention they refused to release him saying koffi is too arrogant so they'll prove him and what saved his case is being french and its french embassy which came to release him and he took plane last minute to go to europe and came to bercy and shone the most in solo dances,since his friends of paris came massively to see whether he will be there as they were telling koffi for months if jf is not there we'll create trouble at your concert but koffi erased his parts
but as koffi wanted him to introduce his mother before getting promised song in force de frappe he refused and left and he was even wanting to beat koffi( he said in the interview that he had it hard to lose that agressive side learned from army and that ricoco was always telling him to chill)
he goes back on depitcho saying he should have a honest look at himself, he is cool neither with manda,nor with jdt who he gave hard time to forcing jdt to go to maison mere ,let alone marie paul it cant only be their faults so he has to  change unless he is a ndoki,jf says himself jdt depitcho and cesar loboko owe a lot to marie paul because he is the guy who turned them into artists,they were just handsome men with some talent but its marie paul who gave it a form so  he should stop his habit of barely wanting to acknowledge marie paul and pretend like he arrived a star to create a group of friends like 4X4
and he also revealed that one day depitcho came to see him to go and beat tutu caludji because he was unhappy that tutu was dating his sister mimi(mimi la japonaise maman na dayana like tutu was shouting her out) and looked for tutu all night long but he had no other choice to accept as not too long after tutu married her


Mfumu Vata #1 on: October 06, 2020, 23:48

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What was the problem of Defao & Koffi back in 1999 ?Because there is a point where he said that those ANR-agents who arrested him were Wemba & Defao-fans. Did Defao openly attacked in the press or what ? ecause in that era I've never heard about Defao & Koffi beefing, just that Defao wasn't liking Koffi anymore for whatever reason. It's only recently that Defao revealed that Koffi did everything to block his succes back in 1998 & 1999, but not that they were beefing like the way Nyoka Longo & Papa Wemba were doing with him.

Cavalier Solitaire #2 on: October 07, 2020, 07:05

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 Quelle grâce (in JF's voice). Merci Archos for the translation.

So JDT was pianist, that explains his very good author/composer skills. I was watching the Delo Bass interview with Ado, I get that Ricoco and JDT had an uneasy relationship during their time together in Aile Paris with JDT at one time referring to Ricoco as petit and it ending almost in a fist fight. Lol... Kindly PM me the anecdote you realised on clan wenge after watching Delo Bass interview.


archos #3 on: October 07, 2020, 09:47

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bro you are confusing with jdl of bcbg

Cavalier Solitaire #4 on: October 07, 2020, 10:28

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bro you are confusing with jdl of bcbg
My bad. I thought I saw JDT in your translation instead of JDL. Lol

archos #5 on: October 07, 2020, 10:57

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What was the problem of Defao & Koffi back in 1999 ?Because there is a point where he said that those ANR-agents who arrested him were Wemba & Defao-fans. Did Defao openly attacked in the press or what ? ecause in that era I've never heard about Defao & Koffi beefing, just that Defao wasn't liking Koffi anymore for whatever reason. It's only recently that Defao revealed that Koffi did everything to block his succes back in 1998 & 1999, but not that they were beefing like the way Nyoka Longo & Papa Wemba were doing with him.

something tells me it could also be about montana and how behind the scenes koffi was approaching him hard already,then there was also a dancer both were dating i  am forgetting her name she did not become very  famous

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archos #7 on: October 07, 2020, 18:11

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Quelle grâce (in JF's voice). Merci Archos for the translation.

So JDT was pianist, that explains his very good author/composer skills. I was watching the Delo Bass interview with Ado, I get that Ricoco and JDT had an uneasy relationship during their time together in Aile Paris with JDT at one time referring to Ricoco as petit and it ending almost in a fist fight. Lol... Kindly PM me the anecdote you realised on clan wenge after watching Delo Bass interview.

Check ur pm

archos #8 on: October 07, 2020, 18:20

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Quelle grâce (in JF's voice). Merci Archos for the translation.

So JDT was pianist, that explains his very good author/composer skills. I was watching the Delo Bass interview with Ado, I get that Ricoco and JDT had an uneasy relationship during their time together in Aile Paris with JDT at one time referring to Ricoco as petit and it ending almost in a fist fight. Lol... Kindly PM me the anecdote you realised on clan wenge after watching Delo Bass interview.

Check ur pm
I have seen it bro. Thanks.