Author Topic: JB MPIANA AND THE ART OF MISSING GOLDEN OPPORTUNITIES  (Read 14172 times)

EMOVICTEAM #30 on: April 02, 2014, 18:17

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Shamala, we don't want jb to be like another artist, what we want him to do is apply business skills as it should apply to all of us. I am a painter who has lacked business skills and so I was told to start gallery shows to increase my sales. I even opened a company. you see, this is from a genric point of view not at individual level only. you can't have a jelly like human being in the name of rio kazadi to compete with artists like capuccino, fally, heritier etc.......no no no, uncalled for. you can't have a drums man who barely makes a sound when some song is being sung, as a manager, a leader, even in corporate world you interogate those employees that are not putting in the best. I am sure seguin would be out of WMM.

Tunutu #31 on: April 02, 2014, 18:19

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When Original Wenge defuncted, JB had an upper hand above all the rest , he had a the beat selling album under his belt, he inherited the majority of the Band Members, but without Werrason the real brain behind Wenge successes, he had no clue, he went several steps back. Titanic was a good album because most of the songs existed before seperation, TH, was a good album but not in the same level as Feux D amour, Internet was holy flop.

archos #32 on: April 02, 2014, 18:22

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Shamala, we don't want jb to be like another artist, what we want him to do is apply business skills as it should apply to all of us. I am a painter who has lacked business skills and so I was told to start gallery shows to increase my sales. I even opened a company. you see, this is from a genric point of view not at individual level only. you can't have a jelly like human being in the name of rio kazadi to compete with artists like capuccino, fally, heritier etc.......no no no, uncalled for. you can't have a drums man who barely makes a sound when some song is being sung, as a manager, a leader, even in corporate world you interogate those employees that are not putting in the best. I am sure seguin would be out of WMM.

LOL i am sure you have nightmares about kibens and seguin ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

NEWSIDE96 #33 on: April 02, 2014, 19:05

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When Original Wenge defuncted, JB had an upper hand above all the rest , he had a the beat selling album under his belt, he inherited the majority of the Band Members, but without Werrason the real brain behind Wenge successes, he had no clue, he went several steps back. Titanic was a good album because most of the songs existed before seperation, TH, was a good album but not in the same level as Feux D amour, Internet was holy flop.

I know but JB overall  should be satisfied with his career, played in the great wenge musica, two successful solo albums, bercy, olympia, zenith, stade de martyrs, esplanade, disque d'or, europe/worldwide tours. His done a lot so his not too worried

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #34 on: April 02, 2014, 21:05

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When Original Wenge defuncted, JB had an upper hand above all the rest , he had a the beat selling album under his belt, he inherited the majority of the Band Members, but without Werrason the real brain behind Wenge successes, he had no clue, he went several steps back. Titanic was a good album because most of the songs existed before seperation, TH, was a good album but not in the same level as Feux D amour, Internet was holy flop.
It's not april fool's day you know, you're a day late. ;D ;D

Werra did fuckall for Wenge Musica, yes, he was instrumental in the recruitment of new musicians having been an original founding member together with Didier Masela etc but anyone who knows the proper history of Wenge Musica will tell you straight that Wenge Musica was Alain Makaba even Werrason himself can tell you that it was Alain Makaba who made Wenge Musica what it was before it split up.

Am sure you're fully aware that Titanic was not JB Mpiana's solo album but a group album and it's a classic one, any serious music critic will tell you it's above Feux de l'amour in quality and remains the best ever by Wenge BCBG.
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archos #35 on: April 02, 2014, 22:02

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like makaba himself said about titanic,they were in another dimension ,they were all at their best,and the chorus jb aimelia mpela bula was very very very good;
ma,da tchebwa one of the most famous and respected ever journalist of drc said in one of his book titanic is the best ever clan wenge album

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #36 on: April 02, 2014, 22:07

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like makaba himself said about titanic,they were in another dimension ,they were all at their best,and the chorus jb aimelia mpela bula was very very very good;
ma,da tchebwa one of the most famous and respected ever journalist of drc said in one of his book titanic is the best ever clan wenge album
Spot on,Manda Tshebwa was on point, Titanic is above the rest because of the variety in arrangement and vocals by the individual singers, there is no boring song or boring vocal on Titanic.
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NEWSIDE96 #37 on: April 02, 2014, 23:20

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I guess soon I will give my full review on the titanic album as I did for droit chemin and effrakata on the vibesafrique forum. fellow bloggers I do need some facts about titanic especially pre-release for instance the background of the album meaning how did actually occur and who played what for example what did ficarre play please fellow bloggers help me! Thank You

archos #38 on: April 02, 2014, 23:38

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singers jb alain mpela aimelia blaise bula,on lead makaba,mbokaliya and ficarré,on rhythm mbokaliya and fiston savimpi,on bass makaba and kusangila,on mbonda seguin and titina,on drums seguin and titina aswell, animation tutu caludji and keyboards makaba,al nzimbi and theo bidens
mbokaliya played four songs on lead(rdc,his song serge palmi,mambika and liberation),makaba played generique which was composed by mbokaliya and japonais before he went to maison mere(japonais took with him some partitions of station japana),on barakuda,omba,champion kapangala,likala moto and maitre ficarré played titina's song
on drums seguin played serge palmi and titina the rest
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NEWSIDE96 #39 on: April 03, 2014, 00:04

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Thank you archos, but I have one more important question for Titanic I know plans were made in Paris for titanic album, pre wenge split it was planned that Jb Mpiana would make an solo album again and before feux de l'amour, wenge musica was planning to a group was that meant to be titanic originally and was the songs of titanic made before the split because I remember some dances well infact all part of montre moi the rest was called before wenge split so that means titanic was supposed to be made already or what??? please help me with some background of the album Please!!!

mvulusi96 #40 on: April 03, 2014, 00:04

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mbokaliya played four songs on lead(rdc,his song serge palmi,mambika and liberation),makaba played generique which was composed by mbokaliya and japonais before he went to maison mere(japonais took with him some partitions of station japana),on barakuda,omba,champion kapangala,likala moto and maitre ficarré played titina's song
on drums seguin played serge palmi and titina the rest

Japonais made a big mistake to leave Wenge 4x4, he was on the way to be one of the greatest solist of Wenge. Maybe better than Makaba or Flamme now. The sebenes he was playing in Wenge 1996'-97 and Station Japana were so sweet and often with much speed comparable what Flamme was doing in his last years with Werrason. Werrason did not of nothing call Kija Brown to bring Japonais back in Kinshasa.  I don't understand what led to the stop of his progression as lead-guitarist and playing explosive sebenes. I can sit down if I watch the old Wenge 4x4 tapes, when he's playing the lead-guitare.

Ken Bilele #41 on: April 03, 2014, 06:32

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I think JB is a bit conservative and I see Ferre with the same attributes, He's a man who is contented and is not willing to go out and discover new things. Fally is a perfect match to Werra.

EMOVICTEAM #42 on: April 03, 2014, 08:14

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I think JB is a bit conservative and I see Ferre with the same attributes, He's a man who is contented and is not willing to go out and discover new things. Fally is a perfect match to Werra.

exactly, that's why I am frustrated with jb and ferre. they have potential but they are complacent. maybe werrason and fally were some of the drivers in their respective former bands.

Tunutu #43 on: April 03, 2014, 09:27

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JB Mpiana and Ferre have wrong beliefs that their good voices are everything, they don't know that music is more than having a good voice, I don't rate Bill Clinton voice, but he is among the best atalakus  Congo has ever produced, and their are a number of Atalakus with good voices but they don't make it.   

exactly, that's why I am frustrated with jb and ferre. they have potential but they are complacent. maybe werrason and fally were some of the drivers in their respective former bands.
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SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #44 on: April 03, 2014, 09:36

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Archos, based on the guitar styles and guitar sound that clan Wenge soloists have as standard for their identity, here is how I think the soloist credits are for Titanic

Titanic Generique - Created By Mboka Liya & partly Japonais but played entirely by Mboka Liya (remember Japonais played the same intro solo on Intervention Rapide)
RDC- Played by Makaba
Barakuda- Played by Makaba
Omba- Played by Makaba
Proces Mambika- Played by Makaba or could be Mboka Liya
Likala Moto- Played by Alain Makaba
Tour Eifeel - Played by Maitre Ficarré
Surprise Kapangala - Played by Alain Makaba
Liberation - Played by Mboka Liya
Serge Palmi - Played by Mboka Liya
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