The leaking of Legende really has put Koffi under pressure lol

Good kiekie - these guys will fall asleep at the wheel all day long unless someone give them a wake up slap

Quote from: Matebu on November 08, 2022, 17:18

Quote from: BercysFinest98 on November 08, 2022, 16:55

The leaking of Legende really has put Koffi under pressure lol

Good kiekie - these guys will fall asleep at the wheel all day long unless someone give them a wake up slap

Loool tell me about it, if this didn’t happen he wouldn’t have released it till the end of next year lol

He was forced to release both BEK and Abracadabra after both albums leaked basically in full when he was taking his sweet time to release them. You'd think he'd try to avoid it by now

I think for the Abracadabra leak it was partially due to the producers being pissed off

BEK wasn't leaked in full. It was just the generique and a rumba which didn't make it on the tracklist (dedicated to Herita Ilunga) were leaked. BEK was meant to be released on Feb 14th 2008. The album was already mixed and send to the factory, the clips were ready, spokemen already saying on tv that fans have to be ready on Febuary 14th, posters being hanged everywhere and a teaser being made. There are some people that say that Koffi himself was behind the leaks and not being satifisfied with the reaction of the public, which made him postpone the release date. He would after the release of BEK, use the leak as excuse to not having released the generique Bla Ba Bla on CD in his interview with journalist Paulin Mukendi, while it was just a 12 to Gessac.





In the same period Wazekwa released Que Demande Le Peuple from which the generique had a huge succes. It got Koffi angry because they attacked him with the cri "moto ya liboma aliaki na fulu". Koffi wanted to react against it and had to look for some proverbe, which he did in start of l'Eau l'Eau l'Eau, generique Bendele and towards the end of the song Plat Favori. In the same period rich fans who saw that Koffi still hadn't released BEK wanted to have songs dedicated to them. Koffi went once again back to the studio, adding the songs Ninelle, Katagourouma, Lovemycine and modifying some songs who were to explicit.

In the period of Feb 14th to the release-date August 7th, he came every month with a new release-date. There were also multiple scandals, like Koffi being boycotted by the Congolese press for 1 month after a camera-man of Raga-TV got beaten by his guards during a vip-concert, Koffi apparently haven stolen money in the studio (Late Emeneya would mock Koffi for 2 years about that in interviews), a conflict with Diego Music about money, etc.



Rumors say that Koffi in the same period wasn't sure about himself and wanted for Werrason to release Temps Present first. There are also rumors saying that Koffi was waiting Fally to release Arsenal des Melodies to release BEK in the same period (Fally's album was already finished in summer 2008, but just waited 1 year extra and added later Bicarbonate, Sexy Dance and Chaise Electrique which was first a rumba).


About Abacadabra it was that someone close to Koffi who was mad if I remember well about cars and mabanga's. He contacted combattans and they made 23 songs leak in the period of the presidential elections in november 2011. Many songs wearn't meant to be on Abacadabra and weren't finished yet. The songs Yaka Alex and Boulevard would end up in EP Bana Zebola which got released in 2015 and Toukou-Toukou (which is a short version of generique On est Ensemble) as bonus on Acadababra-dvd. After that the album got leaked, Koffi came on tv to calm fans down and angry mabanga customers down, by saying that it wasn't the final version. Abacadabra was like he wanted with BEK first to release the album on Feb 14th, but because of the leak he had to rush to the studio to finish the album. In meantime combattans like Rex Kazadi, Youyou Muntu-Mosi, etc. went to share cds of the leaked version for free in Paris. The album got finally released on dec the 23 and immediatly got huge succes in the Congolese community and including combattans listening to it in their cars and parties. The bad thing is that Diego Music lost alot money although the album being number one everywhere. He didn't pay the remaining part of the money, which why Koffi beat him when he heard that he was about to produce Werra's EP Sattelite.



13eme Apotre was not leaked because Koffi learned of his mistake this time lol. However,  nobody was able to remember one of the 39 songs (except Selfie) and for the first time in his career  since his breaking through with Diva in 1985, he got a solo album flopping very hard.

There was alot of demand from donors to have songs on that album because of Koffi saying that it would be his "last album". Back in 2014 he proudly said that he would the first Congolese artist to release a 3-cd album. But after that he saw that Werrason stole his idea by releasing Fleche Ingeta as a 3-cd album that year, he came with 4 cd when releasing 13ème Apotre in 2015. Fabregas would follow Koffi's example in 2016 by coming with 38 songs for his double album Poison/Antidote "Je Pense"

Koffi himself made the album flop by coming with 39 songs,  many had already before listening to it something like "damn 39 songs". I remember people on social media saying that 13eme apotre is an album for unemployed people (album ya ba chomeurs). The second thing is that many were already fed up with Cindy and already knew that there would nothing special just songs about sex like BEK and Abracadabra, despite Férre Gola, Evoloko Lay and Fabregas participating as guest stars. Than also that negativity/polemic about Ferre Gola not wanting to record the videoclip of Cobetox with Koffi after that the album got released.



The third thing was that Koffi himself stopped the promotion of the generiques his atalaku's made in that album by overpromoting Selfie and its remix version Selfie Tournevis and giving his atalaku's the order to not promote their generiques. This made atalaku Tresor Nzinga mad, deciding to leave Quartier Latin after that Koffi also started to ignore him at some point



There were like 6 or 5 generiques in 13e Apotre and each atalaku has his own generique. It was the same concept Koffi had for the EP he wanted to prepare in 2012 called "Mwana ya Abacadabra". Which was then recorded  to counter Power and Boite Noire which both not ended up by getting released in December 2012. Equalizer, Tresor Nzinga and Aspirine having each their own generique. But for whatever reason, Koffi decided to later to change his mind and give those generiques to Cindy to animate on them and adding 3 remix versions of his rumba's to make from it Cindy's EP (called 6-6-6) to celebrate her 6th year in Quartier Latin.

From the 5 generiques made next to Selfie, only Tuer de Lion had some succes the year after it, the moment the videoclip got released on youtube. It was due to people linking the generique to Papa Wemba's death who passed away one month before the videoclip came out and the clip being strange. Tuer de Lion means in French (The Killer of Lions), Koffi had joined Lions Club and people of the streets claiming that Papa Wemba broke the oath by openly attacking Koffi Olomidé on tv. However they forgot that the song was part of 13eme Apotre and a not single recorded in 2016.




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Many bandleaders would criticize Koffi in interviews or through their spokesmen about releasing 39 songs. The funny thing is that most of them all ended up by recording around 40/50 for their coming albums due to not being able to get quick through music (Them not performing in Europe anymore, vip-concerts being peanuts and he era of companies like Bralima (Primus) and Bracongo (Skol) giving big money for public concert being finished). They would try a different strategie by picking 30 songs max and release it in volumes, which also didn't work well. In most cases just 5/4 songs really hung in peoples head and the rest quickly being forgotten. 

The person that attacked Koffi the most for 13eme Apotre was BCBG spokemen Blanchard Mosaka. Normally they hadn't the right to talk because he hadn't released an album since Soyons Serieux in 2011

There was alot of demand from donors to have songs on that album because of Koffi saying that it would be his "last album". Back in 2014 he proudly said that he would the first Congolese artist to release a 3-cd album. But after that he saw that Werrason stole his idea by releasing Fleche Ingeta as a 3-cd album that year, he came with 4 cd when releasing 13ème Apotre in 2015. Fabregas would follow Koffi's example in 2016 by coming with 38 songs for his double album Poison/Antidote "Je Pense"

Koffi himself made the album flop by coming with 39 songs,  many had already before listening to it something like "damn 39 songs". I remember people on social media saying that 13eme apotre is an album for unemployed people (album ya ba chomeurs). The second thing is that many were already fed up with Cindy and already knew that there would nothing special just songs about sex like BEK and Abracadabra, despite Férre Gola, Evoloko Lay and Fabregas participating as guest stars. Than also that negativity/polemic about Ferre Gola not wanting to record the videoclip of Cobetox with Koffi after that the album got released.



The third thing was that Koffi himself stopped the promotion of the generiques his atalaku's made in that album by overpromoting Selfie and its remix version Selfie Tournevis and giving his atalaku's the order to not promote their generiques. This made atalaku Tresor Nzinga mad, deciding to leave Quartier Latin after that Koffi also started to ignore him at some point



There were like 6 or 5 generiques in 13e Apotre and each atalaku has his own generique. It was the same concept Koffi had for the EP he wanted to prepare in 2012 called "Mwana ya Abacadabra". Which was then recorded  to counter Power and Boite Noire which both not ended up by getting released in December 2012. Equalizer, Tresor Nzinga and Aspirine having each their own generique. But for whatever reason, Koffi decided to later to change his mind and give those generiques to Cindy to animate on them and adding 3 remix versions of his rumba's to make from it Cindy's EP (called 6-6-6) to celebrate her 6th year in Quartier Latin.

From the 5 generiques made next to Selfie, only Tuer de Lion had some succes the year after it, the moment the videoclip got released on youtube. It was due to people linking the generique to Papa Wemba's death who passed away one month before the videoclip came out and the clip being strange. Tuer de Lion means in French (The Killer of Lions), Koffi had joined Lions Club and people of the streets claiming that Papa Wemba broke the oath by openly attacking Koffi Olomidé on tv. However they forgot that the song was part of 13eme Apotre and a not single recorded in 2016.




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Many bandleaders would criticize Koffi in interviews or through their spokesmen about releasing 39 songs. The funny thing is that most of them all ended up by recording around 40/50 for their coming albums due to not being able to get quick through music (Them not performing in Europe anymore, vip-concerts being peanuts and he era of companies like Bralima (Primus) and Bracongo (Skol) giving big money for public concert being finished). They would try a different strategie by picking 30 songs max and release it in volumes, which also didn't work well. In most cases just 5/4 songs really hung in peoples head and the rest quickly being forgotten. 

The person that attacked Koffi the most for 13eme Apotre was BCBG spokemen Blanchard Mosaka. Normally they hadn't the right to talk because he hadn't released an album since Soyons Serieux in 2011

Congolese need to hire advisors prior to releasing. You have to make a balanced album. Half rumbas or experiment and the other sebene. I feel like Koffi and other artists have lost track of that model and just release songs we forget and then the album is unsuccessful.

i understood it would be difficult from mbuta likasu's album which was quite balanced, and it went nowhere,and now he'd could be crawling for the guys who give him money to defend...
242 roga really neglected it, only two clips done ingratitude and the sonor song and it was like by one two month after release he was already too pissed with himself of having accepted to let extra musica have an album again or saying to himself that he'd let it flop on purpose so that they clearly understand that its ROGA ROGA who saves their axx and makes them live
my main prayer for the wenge album is that al nzimbi is nowhere there and that makaba stops his electronic drums thing for sebene,imagine what feux de l'amour would be if it had the drum sound of the ndombolo remix all album matching that new era of powerful drum sound about to start  instead of having "soft sophisticated " sound

There was alot of demand from donors to have songs on that album because of Koffi saying that it would be his "last album". Back in 2014 he proudly said that he would the first Congolese artist to release a 3-cd album. But after that he saw that Werrason stole his idea by releasing Fleche Ingeta as a 3-cd album that year, he came with 4 cd when releasing 13ème Apotre in 2015. Fabregas would follow Koffi's example in 2016 by coming with 38 songs for his double album Poison/Antidote "Je Pense"

Koffi himself made the album flop by coming with 39 songs,  many had already before listening to it something like "damn 39 songs". I remember people on social media saying that 13eme apotre is an album for unemployed people (album ya ba chomeurs). The second thing is that many were already fed up with Cindy and already knew that there would nothing special just songs about sex like BEK and Abracadabra, despite Férre Gola, Evoloko Lay and Fabregas participating as guest stars. Than also that negativity/polemic about Ferre Gola not wanting to record the videoclip of Cobetox with Koffi after that the album got released.



The third thing was that Koffi himself stopped the promotion of the generiques his atalaku's made in that album by overpromoting Selfie and its remix version Selfie Tournevis and giving his atalaku's the order to not promote their generiques. This made atalaku Tresor Nzinga mad, deciding to leave Quartier Latin after that Koffi also started to ignore him at some point



There were like 6 or 5 generiques in 13e Apotre and each atalaku has his own generique. It was the same concept Koffi had for the EP he wanted to prepare in 2012 called "Mwana ya Abacadabra". Which was then recorded  to counter Power and Boite Noire which both not ended up by getting released in December 2012. Equalizer, Tresor Nzinga and Aspirine having each their own generique. But for whatever reason, Koffi decided to later to change his mind and give those generiques to Cindy to animate on them and adding 3 remix versions of his rumba's to make from it Cindy's EP (called 6-6-6) to celebrate her 6th year in Quartier Latin.

From the 5 generiques made next to Selfie, only Tuer de Lion had some succes the year after it, the moment the videoclip got released on youtube. It was due to people linking the generique to Papa Wemba's death who passed away one month before the videoclip came out and the clip being strange. Tuer de Lion means in French (The Killer of Lions), Koffi had joined Lions Club and people of the streets claiming that Papa Wemba broke the oath by openly attacking Koffi Olomidé on tv. However they forgot that the song was part of 13eme Apotre and a not single recorded in 2016.




from 0:57 min and 1:03 min



Many bandleaders would criticize Koffi in interviews or through their spokesmen about releasing 39 songs. The funny thing is that most of them all ended up by recording around 40/50 for their coming albums due to not being able to get quick through music (Them not performing in Europe anymore, vip-concerts being peanuts and he era of companies like Bralima (Primus) and Bracongo (Skol) giving big money for public concert being finished). They would try a different strategie by picking 30 songs max and release it in volumes, which also didn't work well. In most cases just 5/4 songs really hung in peoples head and the rest quickly being forgotten. 

The person that attacked Koffi the most for 13eme Apotre was BCBG spokemen Blanchard Mosaka. Normally they hadn't the right to talk because he hadn't released an album since Soyons Serieux in 2011

Tbh if he promoted his atalaku Generique things would have been different cause the Atalaku Generique were rely really good especially Yesu, Tour De Lion and the other one which I forgot the name, if he did that and did max three big rhumbas the album would have been good, and for the rhumba debate, people are sick of rhumbas and dancing to those boring ass songs, Congolese music is Ndombolo not Rhumba, I get that Fally and Ferre manage to do it and be successful in that but man come on, all rhumbas albums are getting so boring.