Author Topic: LEGENDARY PRESS JOURNALIST JOSE MPAKA IKOMBE SAYS WERRA IS UNGRATEFUL  (Read 771 times)

archos on: May 19, 2023, 22:28

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https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1516481892092648

i dont know if its all in that part of the video as i watched both parts earlier,randomly on the fb watch
in short he is saying that he played a big role in the history of maison mere,starting for example from when maison mere had to go to canada from london and didier masela and werra had fallen out and didier had decided as a legal owner of the wenge musica name to fire the whole group including werra and their passports were blocked because of the conflict and him jose in kinshasa went to do mediation to sort it out and then werra could travel as wenge maison mere,with the musica becoming kind of unofficial
he has been working a lot in favour of werra on the press,overhyping whatever he did,to extent that sometimes he even created interviews as if werra was speaking to him and things like that
but one thing really disappointed him is that his wife died and he called werra to inform him of funerals and all that somebody picked and said call in 30 minutes boss is busy  and and he called again and him and his children were argueing whether it was werra himself or not,and he used another number to call and werra himself picked  and as soon as he announced himself werra hang phone on him and it was actually werra from the start changeing voices( lol that must be a clan wenge thing,werra adolphe blaise and ferre all did or still do that when they dont want to see or talk to somebody,lol my man herve literally activates his deepest muyombe accent to pretend its the house employees saying that patron is outside)
 he says he does not have hate for werra but werra needs to question himself whether his behaviour is not a reason for his current career,too many of the people who have helped him from the start of his solo career have ended up in big pain about him,and now himself does not sing well anymore and his group of now is the weakest he's ever had,and he knows werra is a very spiritual guy and he does not understand how werra still is not figureing out that there is something wrong going on from a certain period spiritually as some sort of karma to him

Mfumu Vata #1 on: May 19, 2023, 23:36

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the facebook interview didn't include the way he got in touch with Wenge 4x4 and the part of Didier Masela's conflict with Werrason


Manzambi94 #2 on: May 20, 2023, 09:25

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https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1516481892092648

i dont know if its all in that part of the video as i watched both parts earlier,randomly on the fb watch
in short he is saying that he played a big role in the history of maison mere,starting for example from when maison mere had to go to canada from london and didier masela and werra had fallen out and didier had decided as a legal owner of the wenge musica name to fire the whole group including werra and their passports were blocked because of the conflict and him jose in kinshasa went to do mediation to sort it out and then werra could travel as wenge maison mere,with the musica becoming kind of unofficial
he has been working a lot in favour of werra on the press,overhyping whatever he did,to extent that sometimes he even created interviews as if werra was speaking to him and things like that
but one thing really disappointed him is that his wife died and he called werra to inform him of funerals and all that somebody picked and said call in 30 minutes boss is busy  and and he called again and him and his children were argueing whether it was werra himself or not,and he used another number to call and werra himself picked  and as soon as he announced himself werra hang phone on him and it was actually werra from the start changeing voices( lol that must be a clan wenge thing,werra adolphe blaise and ferre all did or still do that when they dont want to see or talk to somebody,lol my man herve literally activates his deepest muyombe accent to pretend its the house employees saying that patron is outside)
 he says he does not have hate for werra but werra needs to question himself whether his behaviour is not a reason for his current career,too many of the people who have helped him from the start of his solo career have ended up in big pain about him,and now himself does not sing well anymore and his group of now is the weakest he's ever had,and he knows werra is a very spiritual guy and he does not understand how werra still is not figureing out that there is something wrong going on from a certain period spiritually as some sort of karma to him
It isn't a surprise to me, I don't know why Werra keep doing this gangsta attitude of a guy who fucks people over and then act surprised that his fame is dwindling. He could have be like JB which despite everything still get massive love wherever he uploads anything remember this guy had a 10 year without album and his concert were still full, even from the video of Zebuka, check how the female dancers look at him, with admiration and love even when no one told them to




Even Koffi despite his antics is really loved , Wazekwa man his fans always praise him, Fally even more, Ferre's fans over him, Heritier too, but Werra along with Defao and I don't know who other is one of the few artists who continuously burn bridges and then wonder why  obody likes him anymore. I mean what did it cost him to go to a funeral? Of the wife of the guy who helped you?
Werra is not spiritual at all, he can say that he believes in God how he wants but he is not spiritual, for one spiritual peoole who believe in God dont engage in  Satanism, Second people who believe in Gid don't exploit guys who comes from situation of literal hunger to the  make them struggle and not giving them a full salary. People who believe in God don't nominate a guy to do all the dirty work do they can be relieved from responsibility. Getting evicted from La Zamba, Robinio dissing him, Cafe Rhoum and Chinois running away, the latest album being a flop except for the generique, these interview afterthe one of Bogus coming out dirty ingredients your name in the public. I mean at some point you ha e to stop. And as yourself if I am not the asshole. For example In myself I know I have fucked up in the past and burn bridges but guess what?  I understood my lesson and now I just do good, for example there was a party last Sunday in Milan a Networking event and this guy approached me ask me my number and guess what he was part of a big organization in Italy what if I told him hey bro go away I don't need you or were rude to him? Werra needs to change even tho he will not

Mfumu Vata #3 on: May 20, 2023, 10:48

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Thats true Defao was one of the most kinded artists in our music-scene. When he was alive everybody used to praise about how nice he was and the way he liked to help people out. Even pastor Denis Lessie remind him about the past when nobody knew him but Defao still allowing him to use Big Stars' materials to preach with it. While bands like Langa Langa Stars, Viva la Musica were not allowing JB & Werra and co to come close to them and doing them dirty when trying to negoiate for first-parts. Defao was allowing them to come to his house in Ngiri-Ngiri and borrow so much clothes if they want for their concerts and playbacks. Defao would often visit their rehearshals. He was also the one who made them get finally a producer to release their first album Bouger Bouger (aka Mulolo) and became their official godfather but when they arrived on the top they moved more towards Papa Wemba who first used to denigrate them openly on tv. It were one of the reasons about many people being mad about JB & Werrason not really being involved in Defao's funeral and mourning while he was the one who contributed the most to their breakthrough from all 3th generation artists. Defao had just one bad side and that was that he would get easily mad. When being mad, he really mad. This made him having times that he would disband his band and sometimes fire his musicians. But apart that side, he was really loved. Him not being in same circle like nyoka longo, manda chante, werrason and co for political stuff made his funeral kind being neglected



Wenge1995 #4 on: May 21, 2023, 10:01

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Thats true Defao was one of the most kinded artists in our music-scene. When he was alive everybody used to praise about how nice he was and the way he liked to help people out. Even pastor Denis Lessie remind him about the past when nobody knew him but Defao still allowing him to use Big Stars' materials to preach with it. While bands like Langa Langa Stars, Viva la Musica were not allowing JB & Werra and co to come close to them and doing them dirty when trying to negoiate for first-parts. Defao was allowing them to come to his house in Ngiri-Ngiri and borrow so much clothes if they want for their concerts and playbacks. Defao would often visit their rehearshals. He was also the one who made them get finally a producer to release their first album Bouger Bouger (aka Mulolo) and became their official godfather but when they arrived on the top they moved more towards Papa Wemba who first used to denigrate them openly on tv. It were one of the reasons about many people being mad about JB & Werrason not really being involved in Defao's funeral and mourning while he was the one who contributed the most to their breakthrough from all 3th generation artists. Defao had just one bad side and that was that he would get easily mad. When being mad, he really mad. This made him having times that he would disband his band and sometimes fire his musicians. But apart that side, he was really loved. Him not being in same circle like nyoka longo, manda chante, werrason and co for political stuff made his funeral kind being neglected

Papa Wemba didn't like Wenge Musica? That's so interesting, I always thought he was a big supporter of them. I remember he was a special guest at their 1996 concert and he even sang a duet with JB Mpiana on his solo album, did he feel threatened by their initial success?

Yes, Defao was a really generous man. I remember you mentioned that Adolphe used to receive clothes as gifts from Defao. I heard Deplik is similar, he offers guest vocals to up and coming musicians and does cool things behind the scenes

Mfumu Vata #5 on: May 21, 2023, 11:36

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In Wenge's first years of fame. Papa Wemba would often ignore them or denigrate them. Back in 1992 he went to Ivory Coast to promote his album Le Voyageur. When being asked which young band has succes in Kinshasa he replied with Litonge Bouge while the journalists all except that he would say Wenge Musica. There was also a time that Bolowa Bonzakwa interviewed him and when being asked about Wenge, Wemba called them blind people just because of the way they all used to wear those cartier sunglasses. There are multiple examples. But the thing is that Wenge Musica kept going towards him for advice and inviting him for concerts instead of going towards Koffi Olomidé, Général Défao, Nyoka Longo, King Kester Emeneya (who also not liking them and ordering his donors who were often going to Kinshasa to support Marie Paul to fight Wenge 4x4).

The concert you mentioned of Papa Wemba coming singing with Wenge on the same stage actually created problems and made the tensions between Werrason & JB Mpiana worser. Because there was a point that Wemba said "this is musica, one leader not two. For years, people would accuse Papa Wemba for being behind the split of Wenge 4x4. Btw the concert with Papa Wemba was a fara-fara concert. Wenge Musica had to perform first and sing two songs with Wemba and Papa Wemba had to do vice-versa with Viva la Musica. But when the time came for Viva la Musica to perform, zoulou-gangsters came on stage to intterupt the concert. Because back then zoulou's had problems with Papa Wemba (I dont what the problem was).

Papa Wemba didn't really felt theatened. The thing is that Congolese bandleaders always want to be on top on their own and when they see a new generation coming they will do their best to fight them. Its not something of today. It already started in time of Franco and Tabu Ley. Papa Wemba himself was also victim of it.

I dont know how Deplick because I dont really focus on the music of today. But Defao was really generous. He even made an album called Bana Congo where he invited multiple artists (Mbilia Bel, Werrason, Manda Chante, Marie Paul, etc.). Adolphe Dominguez before joining Wenge Musica used to appear often with Defao in playback videos made at Tele Zaire. It was actually Defao who wrote a letter to Aime Buanga to let them accept Adolphe Dominguez in Wenge Musica. Before Defao's death, many people were often mad at Adolphe for not mentioning Defao about his contribution in his early career.

Mfumu Vata #6 on: May 22, 2023, 00:55

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Now I see why JPS Production was always the producer of those Stade des Martyrs shows of Werrason. Except the first one  which was a co-production with Claude Maluma. But why could Jose Mpaka not tell the truth that Elvis Kemayo was about to run away with the money from Claude Maluma, but getting arrested at the airport. It was written in all newspapers that they tried to scam Claude Maluma.


So sad how Didier Masela and Werrason fell out while they were childhood friends. Masela's mother even going that far by bringing those old tribal attacks back of the 1960s (bakongo vs bayaka). Werrason must have done Masela really dirty in all those months.

I would like to hear Didier Masela's version about the conflict he had with Werrason and what made him reconcile with him to finish the tour and leave Maison Mere again. But we will probably never hear it. We were close to hear it when he was about to go to Ado Yuhe's show but Masela's mother passing away one day before the meeting that was planned.

archos #7 on: May 22, 2023, 01:20

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i think the thing which made their conflict completely explode is when maitre hugo slapped masela on nsone's order when he was trying to get to rehearsal,there must have been some other things, i remember nsone sometimes mentioned how didier would storm at his house and block the way for his car to go out because he was not receiving money anymore for months