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Title: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: mvulusi96 on May 17, 2019, 03:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXeiE6C3M7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SQpdcC6X0

The album was a huge succes in 2006. But it looks like everybody forgot about this album.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: CM PRINCE on May 17, 2019, 03:37
Naa man who’s everyone? I still listen to songs like Ca Sonne, Cuidado Niangs, Sans Coeur, Demi Tour and Temoignage, some people still play Ca Sonne there and then. It was lacking In some ways compared to Kibuisa cause the bar was set high after that album.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: Wenge1995 on May 17, 2019, 04:10
Yall want me to do a retrospective album review on Temoinage? I got some pretty cool commentary regarding the album

My favorite tracks on here remains Conscience Bela, perhaps Werrason best composed rhumba since
Ntima Mbote or Blandine.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: Seben_Maniac on May 17, 2019, 05:26
Yall want me to do a retrospective album review on Temoinage? I got some pretty cool commentary regarding the album

My favorite tracks on here remains Conscience Bela, perhaps Werrason best composed rhumba since
Ntima Mbote or Blandine.

Yeah please that would be dope!
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: Wenge1995 on May 17, 2019, 08:32
We begin with Ca Sonne, a very fun generique! Flamme Kapaya brillantly interprets Asian rhythms with his opening solo (from 19 seconds to 1 minute 18 seconds) before the sebene kicks off. One will find it hard to keep still with the fantastic cries from Roi David and Kene Kene!

The icing on the cake is Celeo Scram's playful call of "kwanza munu awa" and the responding fret slides from Mimiche Bass. (This occurs at 7:17 minute)

On the rhumba side, Loin de toi starts with a very pretty piano intro and lovely taps of cymbals from the drum kit. What comes after is a plucky accoustic guitar that's a bit overwhelmed by electronic keyboards. I wish the band placed more emphasis on guitars when recording rhumbas for the album. Eboa Lotin and Didier Lacoste are the immediate standout, their singing is a perfect blend of sultry and sweet!

Quidados Niangs redeems that slight mistep because of it's emphasis on guitars throughout the rhumba portion of the song. The song also featured excellent vocals from Heriter and Cappuccino LGB that preceeds Kapaya's gleeful sebene especially when Kene Kene does his cry of "Ilo Zapata" (24:50 minute)

Na Touche quickly seduces with riffs from a  spanish guitar. The vibe is strictly for the grown and sexy, especially with the groovy bassline and salsa like tempo of the rhythm guitar that builds on the mood before the song climaxes with a awesome horn section. The performace of Eboa Lotin and Didier Lacoste will gravitate women to the dance floor, so be sure to grab a dance partner when this one comes on.

Although Sans Coeur meanders a bit in the beginning, it revives quickly with a foriegn flavor by including steel drums of the West Indies (34:36 minute). What shortly follows is Kapaya's dizzying guitar solo before an explosive sebene where fades away to the dance of Kisanola.

Demi tour owes much of it's success to the chemistry Heritier Watanabe and Werrason, their earnest vocals are a nice contrast to the sweet chimes of the synths and warm tone of the bass guitar. Though the Ferre Gola and Werrason version teased before Les Marquis would scare most from remixing the duet, this version stands confident thanks Heritier with a helpful assist from Aimelia Lias.

Next is Conscience Bela, which remains my favorite rhumba by Werrason. The arrangement has the meticulious approach we haven't seen since the days of Bana Ok and the effort pays off beautifully. This one was meant for special occasions, like weddings!

Ahh, for the controversial title track Témoignage...I was very impressed by the determination in Werrason's voice, he sounded VERY good here especially with Heritier and Bonbon Kojack who provide back-up with hard hitting proverbs against JB Mpiana.

Wableo benefits from Thierry Mogratana's airy solo partitions giving Roi David space to shines with his "mwana mama, kusa kuna katuka" chant (14 minutes into Vol. 2 of Temoinage)! The atalaku section does an amazing job of passing the baton from one to another without a dull moment in between.

Jumping back into rhumba, the live instrumentation on Azmak is a welcome addition, especially Kapaya's blissful solo. One cannot forget the great Eboa Lotin's scene stealing vocals that are playfully endearing!

I really appreciate how Tempus Perdus takes it's time reaching the sebene. The arranger instead encourages the joyful rhythm guitar and jazz infused percussion to function as a musical playground for the group to flex their vocal muscles. Of the singers to step to the plate; Eboa Lotin, Heritier Watanabe, Jitrois, and Bonbon Jack are worth much praise!

The album draws to a close with the romantic rhumba Telephone. Although it's heavy on the synths, the lyrics are quite affectionate to overlook the compositional shortcomings.

In conclusion, Werrason delievers another great release and one worth many listens even if it doesn't reach the hieghts of Kibusia. The album composes the sebene with great structure along with enough creative animations to keep the dance floor crowded and the rhumbas are bolstered by bold creative choices even if they don't have the impact of prior albums.

My Rating: 8/10

Hope you guys like my review! Quick question did Michel Bass participate on this album and what songs did he play if he was around?
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: mvulusi96 on May 17, 2019, 23:39
I think that I said it in a wrong way, excuse me my English is not very good lol. I always use google translation.

If they interview former Maison Mere-artists who participated to that album they barely talk about Temoinage. They mostly talk about Sous Sol, Alerte Generale & Mayi Ya Sika. The same for Werrason who in his rare interviews mostly talk about Kibuisa, Solola Bien, Intervention Rapide & Techno Malewa.

Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: mvulusi96 on May 17, 2019, 23:57
We begin with Ca Sonne, a very fun generique! Flamme Kapaya brillantly interprets Asian rhythms with his opening solo (from 19 seconds to 1 minute 18 seconds) before the sebene kicks off. One will find it hard to keep still with the fantastic cries from Roi David and Kene Kene!

The icing on the cake is Celeo Scram's playful call of "kwanza munu awa" and the responding fret slides from Mimiche Bass. (This occurs at 7:17 minute)

On the rhumba side, Loin de toi starts with a very pretty piano intro and lovely taps of cymbals from the drum kit. What comes after is a plucky accoustic guitar that's a bit overwhelmed by electronic keyboards. I wish the band placed more emphasis on guitars when recording rhumbas for the album. Eboa Lotin and Didier Lacoste are the immediate standout, their singing is a perfect blend of sultry and sweet!

Quidados Niangs redeems that slight mistep because of it's emphasis on guitars throughout the rhumba portion of the song. The song also featured excellent vocals from Heriter and Cappuccino LGB that preceeds Kapaya's gleeful sebene especially when Kene Kene does his cry of "Ilo Zapata" (24:50 minute)

Na Touche quickly seduces with riffs from a  spanish guitar. The vibe is strictly for the grown and sexy, especially with the groovy bassline and salsa like tempo of the rhythm guitar that builds on the mood before the song climaxes with a awesome horn section. The performace of Eboa Lotin and Didier Lacoste will gravitate women to the dance floor, so be sure to grab a dance partner when this one comes on.

Although Sans Coeur meanders a bit in the beginning, it revives quickly with a foriegn flavor by including steel drums of the West Indies (34:36 minute). What shortly follows is Kapaya's dizzying guitar solo before an explosive sebene where fades away to the dance of Kisanola.

Demi tour owes much of it's success to the chemistry Heritier Watanabe and Werrason, their earnest vocals are a nice contrast to the sweet chimes of the synths and warm tone of the bass guitar. Though the Ferre Gola and Werrason version teased before Les Marquis would scare most from remixing the duet, this version stands confident thanks Heritier with a helpful assist from Aimelia Lias.

Next is Conscience Bela, which remains my favorite rhumba by Werrason. The arrangement has the meticulious approach we haven't seen since the days of Bana Ok and the effort pays off beautifully. This one was meant for special occasions, like weddings!

Ahh, for the controversial title track Témoignage...I was very impressed by the determination in Werrason's voice, he sounded VERY good here especially with Heritier and Bonbon Kojack who provide back-up with hard hitting proverbs against JB Mpiana.

Wableo benefits from Thierry Mogratana's airy solo partitions giving Roi David space to shines with his "mwana mama, kusa kuna katuka" chant (14 minutes into Vol. 2 of Temoinage)! The atalaku section does an amazing job of passing the baton from one to another without a dull moment in between.

Jumping back into rhumba, the live instrumentation on Azmak is a welcome addition, especially Kapaya's blissful solo. One cannot forget the great Eboa Lotin's scene stealing vocals that are playfully endearing!

I really appreciate how Tempus Perdus takes it's time reaching the sebene. The arranger instead encourages the joyful rhythm guitar and jazz infused percussion to function as a musical playground for the group to flex their vocal muscles. Of the singers to step to the plate; Eboa Lotin, Heritier Watanabe, Jitrois, and Bonbon Jack are worth much praise!

The album draws to a close with the romantic rhumba Telephone. Although it's heavy on the synths, the lyrics are quite affectionate to overlook the compositional shortcomings.

In conclusion, Werrason delievers another great release and one worth many listens even if it doesn't reach the hieghts of Kibusia. The album composes the sebene with great structure along with enough creative animations to keep the dance floor crowded and the rhumbas are bolstered by bold creative choices even if they don't have the impact of prior albums.

My Rating: 8/10

Hope you guys like my review! Quick question did Michel Bass participate on this album and what songs did he play if he was around?

Michel Bass participated on the version they made during the long tour Europe tour of 2005 with the album having to be released for the summer of 2005, but they postened the release of the album because of the single they had to release for Primus (Changement de Frequences) and Michel Bass decided to stay in Europe. Then Werrason decided to re-record the album again in autumn 2005 with the help of Sec Bidens. I guess because of the new cries Celeo, Kene Kene & Roi David had (Werra Chamion and Tobeti Masasi which was created during the FIKIN-fara fara against JB and Kisanola which was the most danced dance of 2005 & 2006) and some lines to attack JB Mpiana, his old friends of Wenge and Maisha Parc. Saying "muana mobali alelaka te" (refering to FIKIN 2005 when JB was complaining in the media about the way his show was interrupted by the police, claiming that they were sended by Werrason),"baloba trop, basila" (refering to the split of Wenge 4x4 in 1997, about the way Makaba, Blaise Bula, JB Mpiana were making alot of noise and that were finished) and "ba sekisaka ye, mais na mitema na bango balingaka na bango ye te" (refering about the way Papa Wemba and Koffi Olomide became friends with JB Mpiana when they created Maisha Parc, making jokes and etc. but they were in reality not liking JB in Werra's opinion). He brought Maison Mere to Europe and recorded the album live with his spokemen in Kinshasa making alot of noise about it (like they were the first to do that lol) and saying that he followed the footsteps of Franco Luambo Makiadi.

Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: Jdog on May 18, 2019, 06:45
Temoinage was a good bounceback album for Werra as many people thought he was finished when Les Marquis was formed hence Celeo's "ba kanisi toko sila"( they thought we are finished) animation. I still play songs like Temoinage, Conscience Bela, Loin De Toi,Wabelo.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: SLK97 on May 18, 2019, 11:49
I've been listening to this album a lot recently. Conscience Bela was always one of my favourites off the album, but I've come to fully appreciate songs like Demi Tour, Azmak and Wabelo.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: Wenge1995 on May 19, 2019, 00:36
@mvulusi96

What were you favorite songs from the album, ndeko?
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: mvulusi96 on May 19, 2019, 01:08
@mvulusi96

What were you favorite songs from the album, ndeko?

Sans Coeur & Demi Tour (I also like Werra's reaction against Wemba, who said that Werra's brother frere patrice had to do push-ups lol).
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: mrvibes on May 19, 2019, 14:56
To be honest . i did not like this album. Compared to kibwisa . this album was shitty.. Not  surprise that i totally forgot about it just like i did with 13eme apotre, swi (chicotte a papa), control  ..yes i said control .the album is just rubbish ..
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: mvulusi96 on May 19, 2019, 15:16
To be honest . i did not like this album. Compared to kibwisa . this album was shitty.. Not  surprise that i totally forgot about it just like i did with 13eme apotre, swi (chicotte a papa), control  ..yes i said control .the album is just rubbish ..

I also don't really like Temoignage. I always wonder how it was possible that it used to be one of my favorite albums back in 2006 and 2007.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: Wenge1995 on May 19, 2019, 16:30
@mvulusi96

Between Anti-Terror and Temoinage, which album did you enjoy more? For me, it's a hard choice!
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: SLK97 on May 19, 2019, 17:50
@Wenge1995


Which songs on this album have your favourite sebenes? For me, it's Sans Coeur and Wabelo.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: mvulusi96 on May 19, 2019, 20:39
@mvulusi96

Between Anti-Terror and Temoinage, which album did you enjoy more? For me, it's a hard choice!

I think Anti Terro even tought I skip alot of songs. I see Anti Terro as two different albums in one (a mini- jb solo album and a group album united).

It would have been if there a ACMCO-referendum in 2006 to see on what place Temoignage would end along with the albums Droit Chemin, Temps d'Amour & Faux Mutu Moko Boye, the same for 2005 and 2007.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: Wenge1995 on May 19, 2019, 21:54
@SLK97

You've got a good ear for rhythm! My favorite sebenes from the album are Wableo and Temoignage.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: Manzambi94 on May 20, 2019, 10:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXeiE6C3M7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SQpdcC6X0

The album was a huge succes in 2006. But it looks like everybody forgot about this album.


I don't know why people have this perception that Temoignage wasn't a good slbum, it was an excellent Album, it is the reason why I have started to love Congolese music.
Ça Sonne is a stunning generique and you can see Kapaya's creative juice the Album was so much different from the rest of the generique. And I think comparing Kibuisa and Temoignage is useless. Because Bill left after A La Queue Leu Leu, so even though Alerte Generale,and Ça Sonne are GREAT ALBUMS. People will always think that Kibuisa and A La Queue Leu Leu are better then Alerte and Temoignage

Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: mvulusi96 on May 20, 2019, 16:14
Its normal that people compare Temoingnage to Kibuisa Mpimpa. Because Temoignange was Werrason's second solo album after Kibuisa Mpimpa.

It was not because of Bill's departure that people don't like Temoignage, it was because of its arrangements. Don't forget that Kibuisa Mpimpa was arranged by Philipe Guez, Al Nzimbi and Djudjuchet Luvengoka. Listen to the arrangements of Tave, Prince Au Congo, Le Grand Monsieur, Destin Ya Moto, Obiang and compare it to those of Temoignange. Also the level of the songs on Temoingnage aren't the same like on Kibuisa Mpimpa. I think they made the mistake to record the album live. On Temoingnage they had Sec Bidens as arranger who also a top arranger like Maika Munan, Al Nzimbi, Souzy Kaseya, Philpe Guez, Djudjuchet, Michel Lorentz, etc. But it looks like Maison Mere didn't took the time to record the album and that they hadn't alot of motivation like on Alerte Generale which I can understand, because they hadn't a real competitor anymore. They already defeated JB Mpiana, Les Marquis didn't exist anymore and people already accepted the new squad with Alerte Generale. So they didn't had to prove themselves anymore.

Temoignage is ok as album, but it need alot of concentration, motivation and enegry to record a live-album. Listen to Sanction of Academia & Titanic of Wenge BCBG.
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's Temoinage
Post by: princesab on May 23, 2019, 06:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXeiE6C3M7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SQpdcC6X0

The album was a huge succes in 2006. But it looks like everybody forgot about this album.

May be you alone..

I have been listening whole years ever since it was released
Title: Re: Looks like everybody forgot about Werra's
Post by: Wenge1995 on May 23, 2019, 08:31
@mvulusi96

The comparison of this album to Titanic and Sanction is unfair. The circumstances that lead to those albums being made are vastly different. Academia had to prove themselves outside of being Koffi's understudy, while JB Mpiana was riding the massive success of Feux De l'Amour and Temoinage felt more like a victory lap after Alerte Generale confirmed the new line-up of Masion Mere.