Author Topic: Mabanga in Love Songs  (Read 1507 times)

rumbalova on: January 30, 2019, 05:19

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Guys,

How does Mabanga in love songs work? So in the song like "Doc Jeff", is Fally singing a love song to this Doc Jeff guy? Is he taking the role of a lover of Doc Jeff? Maybe I have been corrupted by the West but there seem to be declarations of love being uttered by these male singers to these male donors. Is this all just harmless?

I have asked this before but I am just confused guys. I am expecting love songs about women in rumba but I don't know what is going on with these songs that are bought by these tycoons.

I guess I am asking for the cultural Congolese context of the way the music is today with ridiculous amount of mabangas and more and more bought love songs whose titles are the names of their donors.
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Longbluesquid #1 on: January 30, 2019, 06:40

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I think mabanga is for appreciation for the person. Maybe singing for their loved one also.

faithandwar #2 on: January 30, 2019, 07:00

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I've always wondered this.
As far as the lyricism in Congolese rumba, when the singer is taking the perspective of his own or as man vs the perspective as a woman?
Like to they go back and forth switching perspectives?
I've noticed that Franco used to sing from the perspective of a woman sometimes too.
   

rumbalova #3 on: January 31, 2019, 02:18

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I've always wondered this.
As far as the lyricism in Congolese rumba, when the singer is taking the perspective of his own or as man vs the perspective as a woman?
Like to they go back and forth switching perspectives?
I've noticed that Franco used to sing from the perspective of a woman sometimes too.


That is what I want cleared too 'faithandwar'. In the old songs it was more clear because in the song like "Mario", you can tell that the singers assume the role of a woman lamenting the shenanigans of their lover. That was the stable of the old rumba. They singers played female characters too in their lyrics. But in these new songs it does not seem so clear. Songs like Mario are not praise songs. They are character based social commentary and role playing. But what is going on in these new songs and dedicated love songs to wealthy men?

Mirobexx #4 on: January 31, 2019, 05:41

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As the title says they are just praise songs nothing else .

rumbalova #5 on: January 31, 2019, 06:23

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As the title says they are just praise songs nothing else .


are the romantic phrases directed at these donors by male singers in the context of praise music also? Is this a cultural phenomena specific to and contextual to Congolese culture and expressed in the rumba musical style? I can understand a praise song that lists the accomplishes and masculine traits of a man in his society and community but not the man in question addressed in a romantic manner by the male singer. What role are these male singers taking in the love songs? A female lover to man? Or are they just singing in an impersonal role to these male donors? That is, there is no context to their singing. They are singing love songs to these men and this is normal in Congolese society as expressed in the rumba music. These are the questions I want more detail and context in.

rumbalova #6 on: January 31, 2019, 06:25

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As the title says they are just praise songs nothing else .


are the romantic phrases directed at these donors by male singers in the context of praise music also? Is this a cultural phenomena specific to and contextual to Congolese culture and expressed in the rumba musical style? I can understand a praise song that lists the accomplishes and masculine traits of a man in his society and community but not the man in question addressed in a romantic manner by the male singer. What role are these male singers taking in the love songs? A female lover to the male donor? In some songs it is clear especially in the songs that the footballers buy for their wives like in "One Love" where it is clear that he addresses the wife of Alex Song as the wife of Alex Song. But who are the male singers addressing the male donors directly as in the songs? Or are they just singing in an impersonal role to these male donors? That is, there is no context to their singing. They are singing love songs to these men and this is normal in Congolese society as expressed in the rumba music. These are the questions I want more detail and context in.

archos #7 on: January 31, 2019, 09:09

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sometimes its done on purpose from a man perspective to a woman or vice versa, and more and more these days musicians just buy or steal a song from writers which they find nice then insert the name of the guy who came with the biggest cash or who completed money agreed the quickest regardless of the text and whether it matchs his life or not

rumbalova #8 on: February 02, 2019, 04:49

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sometimes its done on purpose from a man perspective to a woman or vice versa, and more and more these days musicians just buy or steal a song from writers which they find nice then insert the name of the guy who came with the biggest cash or who completed money agreed the quickest regardless of the text and whether it matchs his life or not

Thanks Archos. That is where it gets confusing when they just insert the donors name everywhere even in between expressions of love and affection. I assume that the lyricists and writers that they steal these songs from address the songs to a particular female interest. But when the famous music artists sing it they insert the name of the donor randomly everywhere and that is where it confuses me when I hear lyrics like "Doc Jeff mon amour" "Doc Jeff mon champion" being sung by fally.

Mirobexx #9 on: February 02, 2019, 14:34

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There are loads of mabanga songs .Extra Musica have Dr Okemba ,Mban Antoine and Michael Mwanga songs if it has someones name just know it is mabanga .If you want try upcoming bands they can do a mabanga for you .