Author Topic: MBUTA LIKASU AND SAM TSHINTU PART 2  (Read 2273 times)

archos on: January 06, 2023, 17:20

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Mfumu Vata #1 on: January 06, 2023, 18:49

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So Sam Tshintu definitely did the vocals on the Magie-album, but with a different voice. Now I see why he often credit Babia for making progess in his singing-skills.

I'm surprised to hear that Quartier Latin to return earlier from their Europe-tour in Kinshasa, but LD Kabila taking power in Kinshasa the moment they were performing in Abidjan which made them do a East-African tour waiting in . However, did they return in meantime to Europe. Because I remember them performing in Brussels for Koffi's birthday in August and Koffi at some point stating in english to fans that he performed in Kenya and Tanzania  (the video is on youtube)

Imagine if RCD-Goma succeed in taking control over Kinshasa. I think that Modogo, Binda Bass and Rosette wouldn't reach Brazzaville and Koffi being forced to performed with Suzuki and Pathy Bass as only bassplayer.

Bouro had a bad behaviour. Throwing beer on the mixing board ? There was a bad atmosphere during the recordings of Droit de Veto

Sam Tshintu changed this time the story about his motivations to stay. He didn't talk about him and Modogo being set up by women (who were send by Koffi) and also not about the calls he was receiving from his family in Kinshasa about musicians being recruited. So apart the reunion they made against him, Sam was about to stay in Europe just because Koffi paid a Benz only for Depitcho, Champion and other musician ? Hahaha the way he imitate Modogo's way of crying in hotel after Champion (sended by Koffi) confiscated their passeports when coming in Tanzania

Mfumu Vata #2 on: January 06, 2023, 18:57

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Koffi's revanche would have been harsh if they sended Modogo back from Paris, being already furious the way he and Sam left in Tanzania. Sam Tshintu did well to defend Modogo at the airport.

CM PRINCE #3 on: January 06, 2023, 19:37

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So Sam Tshintu definitely did the vocals on the Magie-album, but with a different voice. Now I see why he often credit Babia for making progess in his singing-skills.
CASE CLOSED. Now we can finally end the discussion whether Sam sang in magie or not. I always said he still had his magie voice if you listen to some songs he sang in QL and Academia

Papa Na Roissy 6:02 his voice changes to the magie voice

Zabalambu it’s a mix of Magie voice and his current voice 3:57

archos #4 on: January 06, 2023, 20:24

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it must have been great fun for people constantly being around the guys at rehearsals and so on in that era
 that team of quartier latin had so much different character lol crazy guys like somono and bouro,guys who dont give a fxxxx like lebou and babia,koffi himself with his antics,the shy mamale and eric,sam and modogo and their eternal big brother little brother banter,passe kosse and tyson the 5 stars snitch skills LOL....

CM PRINCE #5 on: January 06, 2023, 21:18

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it must have been great fun for people constantly being around the guys at rehearsals and so on in that era
 that team of quartier latin had so much different character lol crazy guys like somono and bouro,guys who dont give a fxxxx like lebou and babia,koffi himself with his antics,the shy mamale and eric,sam and modogo and their eternal big brother little brother banter,passe kosse and tyson the 5 stars snitch skills LOL....
Imagine Somono, Jordan Kusa and Jf Ifonge in the group at the same time hahahaha

archos #6 on: January 06, 2023, 21:42

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it must have been great fun for people constantly being around the guys at rehearsals and so on in that era
 that team of quartier latin had so much different character lol crazy guys like somono and bouro,guys who dont give a fxxxx like lebou and babia,koffi himself with his antics,the shy mamale and eric,sam and modogo and their eternal big brother little brother banter,passe kosse and tyson the 5 stars snitch skills LOL....
Imagine Somono, Jordan Kusa and Jf Ifonge in the group at the same time hahahaha


OHH loooooooordd koffi's hair would have gone real grey quick haha remember jf once wanted to beat him,so imagine them three uniting to go and see him for a delay of salary and ready to cause trouble lol

Manzambi94 #7 on: January 06, 2023, 22:25

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it must have been great fun for people constantly being around the guys at rehearsals and so on in that era
 that team of quartier latin had so much different character lol crazy guys like somono and bouro,guys who dont give a fxxxx like lebou and babia,koffi himself with his antics,the shy mamale and eric,sam and modogo and their eternal big brother little brother banter,passe kosse and tyson the 5 stars snitch skills LOL....
Imagine Somono, Jordan Kusa and Jf Ifonge in the group at the same time hahahaha


OHH loooooooordd koffi's hair would have gone real grey quick haha remember jf once wanted to beat him,so imagine them three uniting to go and see him for a delay of salary and ready to cause trouble lol

Lol what? Why?

archos #8 on: January 06, 2023, 23:28

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lol jf when he returned from army used to be quite agressive,even marie paul with his big mouth and kindoki was respecting him,especially as he even travelled with his papers at times back then
and on one or two occasions he got so angry about whatever that he wanted to beat koffi

Mfumu Vata #9 on: January 06, 2023, 23:36

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After JF’s departure from Quartier Latin, Koffi once said that JF Ifonge’s mother is a slave which made JF Ifonge mad and once they met each other at Bolistone (Cesar Loboko’s sister restaurant) and Koffi had to run away and almost fell from the stairs
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CM PRINCE #10 on: January 07, 2023, 16:25

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Jf was feared by people during his Quartier latin days. Because even after he left when champion Fally and co did that video mocking Depitcho, Suzuki and Academia they didn’t dare to mention Jf cause they knew if they ran into him it would’ve been over lol. Even now when you watch his videos he still has that passionate aggressive side.

Wenge1995 #11 on: January 07, 2023, 16:56

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So Sam Tshintu definitely did the vocals on the Magie-album, but with a different voice. Now I see why he often credit Babia for making progess in his singing-skills.

I'm surprised to hear that Quartier Latin to return earlier from their Europe-tour in Kinshasa, but LD Kabila taking power in Kinshasa the moment they were performing in Abidjan which made them do a East-African tour waiting in . However, did they return in meantime to Europe. Because I remember them performing in Brussels for Koffi's birthday in August and Koffi at some point stating in english to fans that he performed in Kenya and Tanzania  (the video is on youtube)

Imagine if RCD-Goma succeed in taking control over Kinshasa. I think that Modogo, Binda Bass and Rosette wouldn't reach Brazzaville and Koffi being forced to performed with Suzuki and Pathy Bass as only bassplayer.

Bouro had a bad behaviour. Throwing beer on the mixing board ? There was a bad atmosphere during the recordings of Droit de Veto

Sam Tshintu changed this time the story about his motivations to stay. He didn't talk about him and Modogo being set up by women (who were send by Koffi) and also not about the calls he was receiving from his family in Kinshasa about musicians being recruited. So apart the reunion they made against him, Sam was about to stay in Europe just because Koffi paid a Benz only for Depitcho, Champion and other musician ? Hahaha the way he imitate Modogo's way of crying in hotel after Champion (sended by Koffi) confiscated their passeports when coming in Tanzania

Was Koffi trying to do 12 on Sam, Modogo, and the others? What went wrong during Droit de Veto? Did someone snitch that the group were upset about payment?

Did JF get his vocals deleted from Attentat or was he left behind in Kinshasa? I know he slept with a dancer and then problems came

Mfumu Vata #12 on: January 07, 2023, 17:30

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According to the interviews I followed from other artists, Koffi was furious at Sam Tshintu because he saw him as the one who wanted to found Academia while he was innocent. So the moment they went back to Tanzania for concerts, musicians like late Ondo and Nono ba Diamants all said that he made a huge mistake by returning back, because Koffi was saying bad stuff about him and already talking about a plan to humiliate them. Modogo was also the one Koffi was planning to do wrong because during the last days of the tours he planned ran away like Sam Tshintu. At the end they were all right because Popolipo got punished for his album, Ondo not going to Bercy and not even participating to the Attentat-recordings.

The tensions were high during Droit de Veto. Lebou Kabuya not respecting Koffi, Bouro Mpela the same, etc. Must be about Koffi saying that they would not receive cars but just stereo sets, etc. Bouro was just about Koffi preferring one musician above him which made him jealous, because before he was the most loved.

Guys like Babia and Savanet Depitcho all snitched to Koffi about other musicians complaining and wanting to stay in Europe. Sam Tshintu once said that he even caught Koffi and Savanet Depitcho talking about demoting him from his role as “chef d’orchestre” when arriving in Kinshasa, when seeing him suddenly trying to change the subject and trying to lie that they were talking about him given a special role as spokemen. Sam than replying that they already have Faustin Djata doing that role in Kinshasa and them not knowing what to say. It later created some polemic on youtube 10 years ago and Depitcho making some interviews saying that Sam Tshintu just is jealous about his life.

JF Ifonge didn’t got his vocals deleted from Attentat. He didn’t even travel to South Africa. He just left behind in Kinshasa, getting punished for sleeping with a dancer which is strictly forbidden in Kinshasa and the girl in question even being pregnant. After Attentat-recordings rules changing and all dancers having to live at Koffi’s house in Montfleury and also not rehearsing at the same moment anymore like the singers.

Mfumu Vata #13 on: January 07, 2023, 17:34

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The project that Mbuta was talking about is good. Its it will not the same anymore since Lebou Kabuya (RIP) isn't there anymore. The line-up of Sanction had something magic and if they add someone or get someone out its not magic anymore. Champion is one of my favorite drummers, but I prefer even an unknown drummer above him for this project. I don't that Sam is informed that Champion stopped with drumming

SYMPLICITY #14 on: January 07, 2023, 18:23

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So Sam Tshintu definitely did the vocals on the Magie-album, but with a different voice. Now I see why he often credit Babia for making progess in his singing-skills.
CASE CLOSED. Now we can finally end the discussion whether Sam sang in magie or not. I always said he still had his magie voice if you listen to some songs he sang in QL and Academia

Papa Na Roissy 6:02 his voice changes to the magie voice

Zabalambu it’s a mix of Magie voice and his current voice 3:57


Hello Prince, do you mean he sang in Magie by having vocals or just in chorus? And if he had vocals, which songs from what minute to what minute because I would be very interested to listen to Sam's 'Magie' voice