Author Topic: LA VIE WENGE MUSICA WHO WERE THE FEMALE SINGERS?  (Read 464 times)

Manzambi94 on: February 01, 2023, 19:47

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It is hard to hear females in Congolese music as singers and even harder to hear them sing in group of full guys, so who are the female singers in LA Vie and why are they there? Tbh they sang really well.

Mfumu Vata #1 on: February 01, 2023, 19:57

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There was only one female singer. It was Nana Sukali who was also their dancer at the same time. Before joining Wenge 4x4 as dancer in 1993, she used to dance and sing for Quartier Latin. She was the female singer in Quartier Latin's album Pas de Faux Pas, doing Deese Mukangi's role who used to sing in Koffi's album Koweit Rive Gauche.

About their presence you must ask it Makaba,  he was the one who made the concept/arrangement/composition of the song.
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Manzambi94 #2 on: February 01, 2023, 19:59

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There was only one female singer. It was Nana Sukali who was also their dancer at the same time. About their presence you must ask it Makaba lol, because he was the one who made the concept/arrangement/composition of the song.

But why she was never promoted as a singer and isn't famous? It is weird, anyway great song tbh the whole start and rhe continuation is really good

Mukulu #3 on: February 01, 2023, 20:04

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At the time Werra said that a girl in the line was not aesthetic and that she was going to participate in the next album after Pentagone

Mfumu Vata #4 on: February 01, 2023, 20:08

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Because she joined Wenge 4x4 as a dancer and not a singer and Wenge 4x4 isn't Anti Choc of Bozi where female singers get promoted. Wenge 4x4 is a band of men, a good example is that they had a team of 6 male dancers. In Quartier Latin where she's used to sing and doing the role of Deese Mukangi in concerts when promoting Koweit Rive Gauche, she ended up by becoming a dancer because of her liking it more than singing and her height being to small to stand next to men. If Wenge 4x4 ended up by promoting female singers they would end up like Anti Choc. Until this day many people blame Bozi for having promoted female singers instead of male and see it like that of the reason that slowed his succes down and being to late when trying to make a comeback

Wenge1995 #5 on: February 01, 2023, 20:50

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There was only one female singer. It was Nana Sukali who was also their dancer at the same time. Before joining Wenge 4x4 as dancer in 1993, she used to dance and sing for Quartier Latin. She was the female singer in Quartier Latin's album Pas de Faux Pas, doing Deese Mukangi's role who used to sing in Koffi's album Koweit Rive Gauche.

About their presence you must ask it Makaba,  he was the one who made the concept/arrangement/composition of the song.

Why did Koffi abandon the idea of having female singers in QL? Did he have a bad experience with them like Scola Meil or he saw Bozi Boziana lose popularity with that format?

Manzambi94 #6 on: February 01, 2023, 21:06

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Because she joined Wenge 4x4 as a dancer and not a singer and Wenge 4x4 isn't Anti Choc of Bozi where female singers get promoted. Wenge 4x4 is a band of men, a good example is that they had a team of 6 male dancers. In Quartier Latin where she's used to sing and doing the role of Deese Mukangi in concerts when promoting Koweit Rive Gauche, she ended up by becoming a dancer because of her liking it more than singing and her height being to small to stand next to men. If Wenge 4x4 ended up by promoting female singers they would end up like Anti Choc. Until this day many people blame Bozi for having promoted female singers instead of male and see it like that of the reason that slowed his succes down and being to late when trying to make a comeback

Why Congolese people are so against having female.singers as main singers? It isn't the same level but I am seeing the same thing with Cindy, yes she is annoying but she isn't a bad singer at all yet for a lot of people she is the cause of every QL Problem

Mfumu Vata #7 on: February 01, 2023, 21:09

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Congolese music since its existence barely promote female singers. Female singers would mostly work in the studio as background singer, doing gospel music. Because they already know that bands would not recruit them, except if the bandleader himself is looking for two or three. 

 V12 compared to Noblesse Oblige and Koweit Rive Gauche didn't had Deese Mukangi as guest to do some chorus or small vocals. They didn't need a woman anymore to do that role . Magie itself didn't had women involved in the chorus. Koffi Olomidé in reality didn't need Scola Miel. It was her who went towards Koffi after a conflict with Bozi. The same Scola became dissapointed because of not getting enough space in her opinion, not knowing that Koffi just accepted her to do Deese's role in concerts and Quartier Latin not being like Viva, Anti Choc where singers get alot of space but everything mostly being focused on Koffi.
Quartier Latin's team was to strong to have female singers in it. It was already hard for male singers that got recruited to get into the team of Babia, Eric Tutsi, Willy Bula, Modogo, Suzuki,.. all big singers. Many singers got unnoticed because of not getting proper chance. Guys like Pompom Miyake, Thomas Lokofe were part of Quartier Latin at that time and left because of not getting any space.


Mfumu Vata #8 on: February 01, 2023, 21:18

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Because she joined Wenge 4x4 as a dancer and not a singer and Wenge 4x4 isn't Anti Choc of Bozi where female singers get promoted. Wenge 4x4 is a band of men, a good example is that they had a team of 6 male dancers. In Quartier Latin where she's used to sing and doing the role of Deese Mukangi in concerts when promoting Koweit Rive Gauche, she ended up by becoming a dancer because of her liking it more than singing and her height being to small to stand next to men. If Wenge 4x4 ended up by promoting female singers they would end up like Anti Choc. Until this day many people blame Bozi for having promoted female singers instead of male and see it like that of the reason that slowed his succes down and being to late when trying to make a comeback

Why Congolese people are so against having female.singers as main singers? It isn't the same level but I am seeing the same thing with Cindy, yes she is annoying but she isn't a bad singer at all yet for a lot of people she is the cause of every QL Problem

I think because the band will not have the same power anymore like first there are to much female singers or all focus being on one female singer next to the bandleader, unless their role being minimal like Asta Paola and Tina in Viva la Musica and those women who used to sing for Emeneya in the Nzinzi and Mokosa-era 1987-1991 (late Théthé Monganga, Diatezua Denise and the otherone)
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