Author Topic: GENERATION WENGE IN THE YEAR 2000  (Read 888 times)

NEWSIDE96 on: January 09, 2016, 12:47

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Didier Lacoste's playback as a Maison Mere member and Adolphe's playback after leaving Maison Mere, after watching this I realized that at this point our music was the no.1 of the continent and Wenge were totally dominating the Congolese scene both Wenge's and the newly born Wenge Tonya Tonya.  ;D ;D ;D Lacoste has some confidence around this time he was full of himself and Tata had success not even a full leader yet shows how things went downhill and on women Lolo claimed something a bit prophetic how Werrason doesn't need their support as his already big star and yes 3 years after the Wenge seperation the man played Bercy, European/African/North American Tours and Golden Disc in the space of three years come he deserved more at that ceremony of merits his done a lot even more then Clan Langa Langa members. Anyway enjoy  :)

mvulusi96 #1 on: August 23, 2019, 22:43

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What did those girls become after supporting Werra's fanclub for a long time. those, alot of girls ran away from home to be with sleep and be with those musicians, parents calling the police to look for them (and them returning pregnant) with the parents doing quick kizonzi with that guy to not be ashamed (otherwise people will say "ba ceinter mwana epayi ya musicien"),woman divorcing from their man and become a sugarmom with money of the man, etc.

I remember Adolphe saying in his their concert in Europe (I think Franco's 10th anniversary of his death at La Madeleine), that they had received alot of money and expensive cars from them and that it was time for the girls and woman to return home and reconcile with their man.

Manzambi94 #2 on: Today at 00:04

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What did those girls become after supporting Werra's fanclub for a long time. those, alot of girls ran away from home to be with sleep and be with those musicians, parents calling the police to look for them (and them returning pregnant) with the parents doing quick kizonzi with that guy to not be ashamed (otherwise people will say "ba ceinter mwana epayi ya musicien"),woman divorcing from their man and become a sugarmom with money of the man, etc.

I remember Adolphe saying in his their concert in Europe (I think Franco's 10th anniversary of his death at La Madeleine), that they had received alot of money and expensive cars from them and that it was time for the girls and woman to return home and reconcile with their man.
What is Kinzonzi?
I think Adolphe was too much good for the music industry. I don't want to say that in Congolese music (In music in general) you have to be a jerk to move up. But you cannot be to nice either. Music especially Congolese one it is just lile the Prince by Niccolò Macchiavelli. You will mot go amywhere in this world with being nice amd all lovy dovy all the time. It is a shame because Adolphe actually had some great music Wenge Tonya Tonya too. Cardozo is one of my favourite tune by them


mvulusi96 #3 on: Today at 02:12

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Kinzonzi means palaver in Kikongo. Both families (of the man and the woman) will meet each other and have each a nzonzi (spokeman) who will talk for them and on the end the family of the man will pay the bill to the family of the woman (which they had already send to the man, which includes mostly money, some clothes, crates of drinks,..) and on the end after talking, the woman becoming part of the man's family. We can say that its a traditional wedding. If they discover that the woman is pregnant, then the man has to pay a fine to woman's family (In Congo they come with a goat).

Wenge1995 #4 on: Today at 03:40

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@Manzambi94

Same with Wazekwa; he delayed much success by avoiding the strategy of sabotoge and ndoki that many of his peers have done. He could have performed at Bercy or Olympia as early as Yo Nani, but he kept trying to play fair in an industry that's anything but that

mvulusi96 #5 on: Today at 13:45

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@Manzambi94

Same with Wazekwa; he delayed much success by avoiding the strategy of sabotoge and ndoki that many of his peers have done. He could have performed at Bercy or Olympia as early as Yo Nani, but he kept trying to play fair in an industry that's anything but that

hahahaha Bercy and Olympia during the era of Yo Nani ? Are kidding me ? Do you know how big Bercy is ? In that era artists were spending 6 months or even 1 year to mobilize people in whole Europe (UK, Belgium, France, Italy, Germany) for their concert at Bercy and were then still not sure if they would fill it. Big artist like Youssou Ndour have sometimes mpiaka in Bercy. 

 Wazekwa performed at LSC just before releasing Yo Nani, but the hall wasn't really packed like the way Koffi, JB, etc. were doing in that era. Wazekwa had succes with Signature and Yo Nani but not on the level of JB Mpiana and Werrason and didn't had a big fanbase in Europe that could fill halls for him.

Wazekwa crazy succes started in 2004 when he released Et Apres, the generique and the album were a huge succes, getting then also a kora-award. It was then that he could already have performed at Olympia. But nevertheless he performed there in 2009 and the show being voted as the show of the year and the dvd selling very well. He could performed there quick,  but those shows are often not well organised and the leader not receiving engough money with him not wanting to share the little amount he received with his musicians, because he wants to pay an expensive car or build a big house and the band then often spliting after those big events at Olympia, Zenith & Bercy.

mvulusi96 #6 on: Today at 14:03

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What did those girls become after supporting Werra's fanclub for a long time. those, alot of girls ran away from home to be with sleep and be with those musicians, parents calling the police to look for them (and them returning pregnant) with the parents doing quick kizonzi with that guy to not be ashamed (otherwise people will say "ba ceinter mwana epayi ya musicien"),woman divorcing from their man and become a sugarmom with money of the man, etc.

I remember Adolphe saying in his their concert in Europe (I think Franco's 10th anniversary of his death at La Madeleine), that they had received alot of money and expensive cars from them and that it was time for the girls and woman to return home and reconcile with their man.
What is Kinzonzi?
I think Adolphe was too much good for the music industry. I don't want to say that in Congolese music (In music in general) you have to be a jerk to move up. But you cannot be to nice either. Music especially Congolese one it is just lile the Prince by Niccolò Macchiavelli. You will mot go amywhere in this world with being nice amd all lovy dovy all the time. It is a shame because Adolphe actually had some great music Wenge Tonya Tonya too. Cardozo is one of my favourite tune by them


Adolphe wasn't very smart. He was one of the stars in 2001 and filled LSC and Olympia. But he forced Lacoste out the band and fired Shella Mputu. He lost already alot of keymembers during the first tour (Chibida Dumbu, Papillion, etc.) because he didn't pay them which made him stay a month in Europe after the end of tour to find them, also asking money to his brother in law (Rami Amisi) to get them back in Kinshasa, but it didn't help. Instead to focus on work, he started to team up often with JB Mpiana , do polemic against Werrason (while Maison Mere didn't react anymore) and  recruit copycats of Didier Lacoste, Shella Mputu which made Felix Wazekwa slowly taking his spot. The reception of the Mouna-album was already so-so because of those many departures and many problems, but his succes really ended when his album 25 minutes-Jugement Dernier flopped.

Its really sad because before the release of Kibuisa Mpimpa he was more popular then Werrason in Europe, because people felt sorry for him after seeing the interview he made with Yves Kambala about his depature which made Werrason fearing about his succes, because his shows in Europe started to be mpiaka. So he sended Ferre, Baby, Bill, Sankara and co to react with Zacharie Bababaswe, but it ridiculized him even more. Adolphe's playback shows in Brussels and Paris started to boost his succes more and he had a big part of those influent "bana poto" behind him (Photo Joel Mbetenge, Loris La Congolaise, etc.). He had a crazy crowd during his arrival in Brazzaville and return in Kinshasa  and was able to fill YMCA, Studio Maman Ngebi and perform in front of a big crowd in Mbuji Mayi and Bandalungwa  and his band started to give Maison Mere a hard time in Kinshasa despite the succes of Kibuisa Mpimpa. If Adolphe knew how to manage his band then he could have been a serious danger for JB Mpiana and Werrason the years that followed, but he lost everything in 1/2 years. 


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