Author Topic: ONE OF ROGA ROGA'S EXTRA MUSICA SINGERS LEAVES IN FRANCE  (Read 543 times)

archos on: July 19, 2022, 18:53

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https://www.facebook.com/liloupromotv/videos/370013158606854

Both extra's are in france right now and this guy charly chaleur says he left the group because he was unhappy with payment and he was also not liking the way they started calling him zairois when he started complaining for having been paid 200 euros after 6 concerts(there is that old rivalry between both congos which caused that when some brazza people call a kinshasa  guy zairois its in an humiliating way as you are just barely better than poo)

Wenge1995 #1 on: July 19, 2022, 21:50

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Isn't Fiston Boko from RDC? Maybe he wasn't paid properly, but I'm not sure about the insults

Mfumu Vata #2 on: July 20, 2022, 00:00

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People from Brazzaville often insult Congolese people as Zairois. This guy isn't the only victim. Last year or two years ago there was a guy of Nouvel Horizon's staff in Europe, making an interview with journalist Dicarson and Rostel Bakwa (who used to be Roga Roga's spokemen in Europe, bodygard and donor at the same time). He started to make insult atalaku Etats Unis and Fiston Boko about being Zarois and their faces not looking them coming from Brazzaville and many other stuff. Saying that he Etats Unis used to make chairs and benches and being poor, etc.

archos #3 on: July 20, 2022, 00:10

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yeah musicians from both congos when they switch countries  seem to struggle with that
kibens was attacked a lot when he was around jb before the split,dodi le talent of nouvel horizon could not breakthrough in mayi ya sika team because of treatment about his origin.. i always find it sad that people who have so much in common find a way to act like they are from different planet at times

Cavalier Solitaire #4 on: July 20, 2022, 09:52

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So Celeo Scram was right about RR not properly paying musicians. :D :D

OT: Why isn't there a bridge between Brazza and Kinshasa over the Congo River. Is it because of the same animosity between the two peoples or what?

Mfumu Vata #5 on: July 20, 2022, 12:10

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The Congo-river is really large between Brazzaville and Kinshasa. I think even more larger than the distance of  Instabul's part in Asia and that of Europe that are connected by bridge recently build in 2004. There were  plans of building a bridge somewhere in the 80s, but Zaire had at his side already to much debts (Inga II, Nsele, etc.).

In the time of Laurent Desire Kabila, that of Joseph Kabila and Felix Tshisekedi, the project came back. But some politicians and people coming from the Kongo-Central were against. In their opinion a bridge between Kinshasa and Brazzaville would go into DR Congo disadvantage and make Brazzaville profit alot in economic terms and makes grow the city Pointe Noire on the coast even more. Also killing the economic activity in its port towns of Boma and Matadi, which are key contributors to our economy. Some even went far and want to see Kongo Central becoming independent if Kinshasa would accept the Brazzaville-Kinshasa deal.

DR Congo doesn't have a port in deep water which makes the goods already being expensive when arriving in Boma and Matadi, next to the exaggerated high douane charge. Both ports are in shallow water for big boats, so when a big boat arrive they have to get rid of the sand in the Congo river which cost alot of time and money. Which why businessmen and people prefer to do their stuff in Pointe Noire and with a bridge between Brazzaville and Kinshasa, ittotally kill the Kongo Central province. Kongo Central lives from it since that many cities (Madimba, Kisantu, Kasangulu, Kimpese and Mbanza Ngungu) are situated in the Kinshasa - Matadi route and big trucks passing by. Imagine the bridge being build that's total suicide for a province that's already poor and also for the country itself.

There were since the era of Mobutu plans to build a big port in Banana which is at the Atlantic coast. But the notables chiefs coming from Boma and Matadi were totally against and did everything to block the project. This because they didn't want people in these cities losing their job. But things changed from the 2008/09 when Joseph Kabila's clan took total control of both ports, always getting 90% of the profits. It made people not being able to make profit, employees losing their jobs, many activities going down and a crisis starting in both cities. Kuluna started to appear in both cities due to poverty and no jobs being available.

With the plans of the bridge between Brazzavilla and Kinshasa, those of Kinshasa want to have the port of Banana first before building the bridge. Because with Banana it would make DR Congo rebirth. Felix Tshisekedi recently put the first stone of it's building. However, there are reports that French companies based in Pointe Noire are doing everything to block the construction of port in Banana. Because with Banana they would make less profit. Another thing is that environment activists are afraid that the port would kill the Mangroves National Park.




Cavalier Solitaire #6 on: July 20, 2022, 18:44

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The Congo-river is really large between Brazzaville and Kinshasa. I think even more larger than the distance of  Instabul's part in Asia and that of Europe that are connected by bridge recently build in 2004. There were  plans of building a bridge somewhere in the 80s, but Zaire had at his side already to much debts (Inga II, Nsele, etc.).

In the time of Laurent Desire Kabila, that of Joseph Kabila and Felix Tshisekedi, the project came back. But some politicians and people coming from the Kongo-Central were against. In their opinion a bridge between Kinshasa and Brazzaville would go into DR Congo disadvantage and make Brazzaville profit alot in economic terms and makes grow the city Pointe Noire on the coast even more. Also killing the economic activity in its port towns of Boma and Matadi, which are key contributors to our economy. Some even went far and want to see Kongo Central becoming independent if Kinshasa would accept the Brazzaville-Kinshasa deal.

DR Congo doesn't have a port in deep water which makes the goods already being expensive when arriving in Boma and Matadi, next to the exaggerated high douane charge. Both ports are in shallow water for big boats, so when a big boat arrive they have to get rid of the sand in the Congo river which cost alot of time and money. Which why businessmen and people prefer to do their stuff in Pointe Noire and with a bridge between Brazzaville and Kinshasa, ittotally kill the Kongo Central province. Kongo Central lives from it since that many cities (Madimba, Kisantu, Kasangulu, Kimpese and Mbanza Ngungu) are situated in the Kinshasa - Matadi route and big trucks passing by. Imagine the bridge being build that's total suicide for a province that's already poor and also for the country itself.

There were since the era of Mobutu plans to build a big port in Banana which is at the Atlantic coast. But the notables chiefs coming from Boma and Matadi were totally against and did everything to block the project. This because they didn't want people in these cities losing their job. But things changed from the 2008/09 when Joseph Kabila's clan took total control of both ports, always getting 90% of the profits. It made people not being able to make profit, employees losing their jobs, many activities going down and a crisis starting in both cities. Kuluna started to appear in both cities due to poverty and no jobs being available.

With the plans of the bridge between Brazzavilla and Kinshasa, those of Kinshasa want to have the port of Banana first before building the bridge. Because with Banana it would make DR Congo rebirth. Felix Tshisekedi recently put the first stone of it's building. However, there are reports that French companies based in Pointe Noire are doing everything to block the construction of port in Banana. Because with Banana they would make less profit. Another thing is that environment activists are afraid that the port would kill the Mangroves National Park.
Great insights @Mfumu. I have always wondered as to why there's no bridge. The building of the Banana port makes economical sense even for inner towns from the port would benefit greatly from the increased traffic of goods contrary to the earlier apprehension of the Chiefs. Its definitely more beneficial than a bridge with reliance on a port from a neighbouring country, though the bridge maybe cheaper to build than a port would cost.

Manzambi94 #7 on: July 20, 2022, 22:16

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Isn't Fiston Boko from RDC? Maybe he wasn't paid properly, but I'm not sure about the insults
He is, to be honest I wonder what Fiston Boko and Sorel Kim Sung see in Extra Musica Zangul tbh, like everybody is not getting paid but them two yes? Because tbh it is kinda hard to understand how a simple dancers (despite him saying he is a great singer) and a singer who was behind Sokor, Ramatoulaye etc. In hierarchies get money but the rest doesn't

shamala #8 on: July 24, 2022, 05:32

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The Congo-river is really large between Brazzaville and Kinshasa. I think even more larger than the distance of  Instabul's part in Asia and that of Europe that are connected by bridge recently build in 2004. There were  plans of building a bridge somewhere in the 80s, but Zaire had at his side already to much debts (Inga II, Nsele, etc.).

In the time of Laurent Desire Kabila, that of Joseph Kabila and Felix Tshisekedi, the project came back. But some politicians and people coming from the Kongo-Central were against. In their opinion a bridge between Kinshasa and Brazzaville would go into DR Congo disadvantage and make Brazzaville profit alot in economic terms and makes grow the city Pointe Noire on the coast even more. Also killing the economic activity in its port towns of Boma and Matadi, which are key contributors to our economy. Some even went far and want to see Kongo Central becoming independent if Kinshasa would accept the Brazzaville-Kinshasa deal.

DR Congo doesn't have a port in deep water which makes the goods already being expensive when arriving in Boma and Matadi, next to the exaggerated high douane charge. Both ports are in shallow water for big boats, so when a big boat arrive they have to get rid of the sand in the Congo river which cost alot of time and money. Which why businessmen and people prefer to do their stuff in Pointe Noire and with a bridge between Brazzaville and Kinshasa, ittotally kill the Kongo Central province. Kongo Central lives from it since that many cities (Madimba, Kisantu, Kasangulu, Kimpese and Mbanza Ngungu) are situated in the Kinshasa - Matadi route and big trucks passing by. Imagine the bridge being build that's total suicide for a province that's already poor and also for the country itself.

There were since the era of Mobutu plans to build a big port in Banana which is at the Atlantic coast. But the notables chiefs coming from Boma and Matadi were totally against and did everything to block the project. This because they didn't want people in these cities losing their job. But things changed from the 2008/09 when Joseph Kabila's clan took total control of both ports, always getting 90% of the profits. It made people not being able to make profit, employees losing their jobs, many activities going down and a crisis starting in both cities. Kuluna started to appear in both cities due to poverty and no jobs being available.

With the plans of the bridge between Brazzavilla and Kinshasa, those of Kinshasa want to have the port of Banana first before building the bridge. Because with Banana it would make DR Congo rebirth. Felix Tshisekedi recently put the first stone of it's building. However, there are reports that French companies based in Pointe Noire are doing everything to block the construction of port in Banana. Because with Banana they would make less profit. Another thing is that environment activists are afraid that the port would kill the Mangroves National Park.





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