Author Topic: OPERATION LEADERSHIP OF JB MPIANA AND WERRASON  (Read 1360 times)

archos on: March 10, 2018, 19:46

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EMOVICTEAM #1 on: March 11, 2018, 06:15

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Archos just summarize it as werrason>jb....no need to waste your precious time...

Matebu #2 on: March 11, 2018, 06:18

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Archos just summarize it as werrason>jb....no need to waste your precious time...

This is the simplest summarisation I have ever heard..

Matebu #4 on: March 11, 2018, 06:45

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Archos just summarize it as werrason>jb....no need to waste your precious time...

This is the simplest summarisation I have ever heard..

Fait Accompli   :D

archos #5 on: March 11, 2018, 10:43

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 its not a matter of who  is better than who its how they operated to get full power....

BrazzaBoy #6 on: March 11, 2018, 14:44

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Archos just summarize it as werrason>jb....no need to waste your precious time...

This is the simplest summarisation I have ever heard..

Fait Accompli   :D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


shamala #7 on: March 11, 2018, 16:05

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Archos just summarize it as werrason>jb....no need to waste your precious time...

Emo for you....
PORTE-PAROLE NON OFFICIEL DE JB MPIANA ET WENGE BCBG.

CM PRINCE #8 on: March 11, 2018, 16:29

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Archos just summarize it as werrason>jb....no need to waste your precious time...
I don't think I've ever come across anyone who claims to be a fan of a band or someone but is soooo negative about them like Emo is with JB and BCBG then again I'm like that with arsenal  ;D ;D

Matebu #9 on: March 11, 2018, 17:06

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^ kiekie, #Wengerout. You guys are something else.


ArsenalFanTv is one of the funniest pages on YT. You guys get so mad :D

EMOVICTEAM #10 on: March 13, 2018, 14:49

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Archos just summarize it as werrason>jb....no need to waste your precious time...
I don't think I've ever come across anyone who claims to be a fan of a band or someone but is soooo negative about them like Emo is with JB and BCBG then again I'm like that with arsenal  ;D ;D

I put a folk on JB and dumped him in a waste bin long time ago. I am no longer a fan.

archos #11 on: March 13, 2018, 17:31

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the split of wenge musica will give birth to two sides  which are wenge bcbg of jb mpiana blaise bula and alain makaba and wenge musica maison of werrason,adolphe dominguez and didier masela
the camp of jb,blaise and makaba let jb be at forefront directly but they have an organization,jb being president,blaise chef d'orchestre and financial director and alain makaba continuing to be artistic director like in wenge musica
in the other camp,knowing adolphe considers jb as his own brother and still is too tempted to join jb's side, didier masela convinces werrason to hand president role to adolphe to make him feel very involved in the project
which he will make a great contribution to being behind arrivals of adjani,didier lacoste,celeo scram,flamme kapaya and keyboard player modeste(rip) aswell as trying to convince montana kamenga to join
as in the early concerts his popularity will start to grow and being the president he will start to be seen as a strong leader and around mid 1998 there will be a very secret meeting at birthday of late daughter of ficarre for who werra was the godfather
and during this reunion,jb and werra will set themselves two targets which are to become the richest artists of drc in 10 years and the second one being to dominate all their friends of clan wenge by making sure to reproduce as best as they can rivalry of their idols king kester and papa wemba
jb mpiana will be the first to start operation to get rid of the co-leaders by surprisingly stripping blaise bula of financial director role to hand it to maitre ficarre which will cause anger of blaise who physically attacks ficarre
later on blaise will announce at reunion that he wants to record his solo album(in order to reinforce his weakened authority)but being informed by alain mpela jb makes sure most of the group is against so they vote against as titanic is just out  and they hope to make great money from titanic tours
hearing that jb has started process,werra also starts on his side,but organising a reunion without adolphe to re claim president spot and orders musicians not to call him ya noel anymore but president and to call adolphe tata like a random member
and when adolphe notices the change he threatens to switch to jb's side were he feels he will more valued having with jb the longest friendship of clan wenge but people around step in to sort things out with adolphe reclaiming vice president role he had in wenge
masela's position is also weakened with the fact christian mabanga plays more at times and is promised to become the number 2 should adolphe and masela leave and on some concerts it happens that mabanga refuses to give guitar to masela or starts on purpose to play a song when its his turn to hand the guitar while in wenge musica they had a very respectful and peaceful collaboration
in 1999 jb takes another move to weaken blaise's authority by deciding on his own to appoint alain mpela as the new chief and preparing singer jules kibens in which he sees a similar profile of very educated guy good chorus singer and decent dancer to follow blaise's gestures and  antics closely in order to replace him easily and they will use the fact they hear blaise bula is rehearsing songs in private for his album and starts recruiting people after an argument in ivory coast and while blaise is stuck in hospital jb and co use the pretext of focusing on zenith rehearsals to explain their distance to this situation as they know blaise will surely understand he is not welcome anymore since nobody approaches him
in the same time alain makaba is gone to europe as usual and he will disagree with jb mpiana over the fact jb has made the crop of singers bigger by creating PPU with "le commandant" kibens,"la voix de l'an 2000" rio, chai ngenge,heritier,...And jb will use their disagreement to motivate mbokaliya and ficarre to up their level with the promise of getting starting spot at expense of alain makaba and several advantages
and when jb arrives with the group there is a strong argument with alain makaba who feels he has lost artistic control on the group and before jb goes on stage argument gets so strong that alain makaba strongly insults jb and threatens to beat him and jb shocked with such reaction can't hold tears and arrives on stage with a very emotional voice and he orders alain mpela to tell alain makaba he wont be allowed on stage until omba is played which is what happens with alain makaba sulking and having his back turned to crowd most of the time while he usually faces crowd and plays with a big smile and dances
and he ends up leaving so by the end of 1999 jb the co-leaders are all gone with alain mpela becoming the new number 2
in maison mere adolphe keeps becoming more and more popular while masela seems to start seriously losing influence and he does not even get money for months which leads to him once blocking werra's car until he gets paid
in 2000 werra takes operation to another level by sending members of the group to unsettle masela and adolphe and didier masela leaves in london as he is fed up with what's happening and he is so furious that he threatens to sue werrason over wenge name being the founder of the former 4X4
and later in the year with only adolphe remaining werra sees adolphe as a threat to his popularity having not gone to east africa with the group and performimselfing in europe with quite some success keeps sending minor members to unsettle him and its in that logic that there will be the famous case of adjani putting chewing gums in adolphe's jacket so that he is unable to wear his fancy jacket which would potentially make him "outshine" werra clothes-wise
at concert of bercy,adolphe has ordered for himself still seeing himself as the second president of the group a very expensive tailor made golden jitrois jacke t with president written on the sleeves and adolphe dominguez in the back and while he expects to keep wearing fancy jitrois clothes throughout concert he will have the surprise of seein his other outfit having disappeared and two  xxl uniforms instead of one initially for baby ndombe
nevertheless he'll have no other choice than wearing them and trying his best to  still play an important role but he will understand he is forced about and will end up leaving at end of 2000
 so within two years and half jb mpiana and werrason will have managed to get rid of the 4 other administrators through dirty and ruthless tactics and by the end of 2000 we'll have instead of two group of three admins wenge bcbg de jb mpiana and wenge maison mere de werrason and from then the post-wenge musica era will be very very centered around jb mpiana and werrason like they planned

Congolitude #12 on: March 13, 2018, 17:55

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when it comes to leadership, Congolese music can become very dirty and ruthless

masatomo #13 on: March 13, 2018, 20:36

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the split of wenge musica will give birth to two sides  which are wenge bcbg of jb mpiana blaise bula and alain makaba and wenge musica maison of werrason,adolphe dominguez and didier masela
the camp of jb,blaise and makaba let jb be at forefront directly but they have an organization,jb being president,blaise chef d'orchestre and financial director and alain makaba continuing to be artistic director like in wenge musica
in the other camp,knowing adolphe considers jb as his own brother and still is too tempted to join jb's side, didier masela convinces werrason to hand president role to adolphe to make him feel very involved in the project
which he will make a great contribution to being behind arrivals of adjani,didier lacoste,celeo scram,flamme kapaya and keyboard player modeste(rip) aswell as trying to convince montana kamenga to join
as in the early concerts his popularity will start to grow and being the president he will start to be seen as a strong leader and around mid 1998 there will be a very secret meeting at birthday of late daughter of ficarre for who werra was the godfather
and during this reunion,jb and werra will set themselves two targets which are to become the richest artists of drc in 10 years and the second one being to dominate all their friends of clan wenge by making sure to reproduce as best as they can rivalry of their idols king kester and papa wemba
jb mpiana will be the first to start operation to get rid of the co-leaders by surprisingly stripping blaise bula of financial director role to hand it to maitre ficarre which will cause anger of blaise who physically attacks ficarre
later on blaise will announce at reunion that he wants to record his solo album(in order to reinforce his weakened authority)but being informed by alain mpela jb makes sure most of the group is against so they vote against as titanic is just out  and they hope to make great money from titanic tours
hearing that jb has started process,werra also starts on his side,but organising a reunion without adolphe to re claim president spot and orders musicians not to call him ya noel anymore but president and to call adolphe tata like a random member
and when adolphe notices the change he threatens to switch to jb's side were he feels he will more valued having with jb the longest friendship of clan wenge but people around step in to sort things out with adolphe reclaiming vice president role he had in wenge
masela's position is also weakened with the fact christian mabanga plays more at times and is promised to become the number 2 should adolphe and masela leave and on some concerts it happens that mabanga refuses to give guitar to masela or starts on purpose to play a song when its his turn to hand the guitar while in wenge musica they had a very respectful and peaceful collaboration
in 1999 jb takes another move to weaken blaise's authority by deciding on his own to appoint alain mpela as the new chief and preparing singer jules kibens in which he sees a similar profile of very educated guy good chorus singer and decent dancer to follow blaise's gestures and  antics closely in order to replace him easily and they will use the fact they hear blaise bula is rehearsing songs in private for his album and starts recruiting people after an argument in ivory coast and while blaise is stuck in hospital jb and co use the pretext of focusing on zenith rehearsals to explain their distance to this situation as they know blaise will surely understand he is not welcome anymore since nobody approaches him
in the same time alain makaba is gone to europe as usual and he will disagree with jb mpiana over the fact jb has made the crop of singers bigger by creating PPU with "le commandant" kibens,"la voix de l'an 2000" rio, chai ngenge,heritier,...And jb will use their disagreement to motivate mbokaliya and ficarre to up their level with the promise of getting starting spot at expense of alain makaba and several advantages
and when jb arrives with the group there is a strong argument with alain makaba who feels he has lost artistic control on the group and before jb goes on stage argument gets so strong that alain makaba strongly insults jb and threatens to beat him and jb shocked with such reaction can't hold tears and arrives on stage with a very emotional voice and he orders alain mpela to tell alain makaba he wont be allowed on stage until omba is played which is what happens with alain makaba sulking and having his back turned to crowd most of the time while he usually faces crowd and plays with a big smile and dances
and he ends up leaving so by the end of 1999 jb the co-leaders are all gone with alain mpela becoming the new number 2
in maison mere adolphe keeps becoming more and more popular while masela seems to start seriously losing influence and he does not even get money for months which leads to him once blocking werra's car until he gets paid
in 2000 werra takes operation to another level by sending members of the group to unsettle masela and adolphe and didier masela leaves in london as he is fed up with what's happening and he is so furious that he threatens to sue werrason over wenge name being the founder of the former 4X4
and later in the year with only adolphe remaining werra sees adolphe as a threat to his popularity having not gone to east africa with the group and performimselfing in europe with quite some success keeps sending minor members to unsettle him and its in that logic that there will be the famous case of adjani putting chewing gums in adolphe's jacket so that he is unable to wear his fancy jacket which would potentially make him "outshine" werra clothes-wise
at concert of bercy,adolphe has ordered for himself still seeing himself as the second president of the group a very expensive tailor made golden jitrois jacke t with president written on the sleeves and adolphe dominguez in the back and while he expects to keep wearing fancy jitrois clothes throughout concert he will have the surprise of seein his other outfit having disappeared and two  xxl uniforms instead of one initially for baby ndombe
nevertheless he'll have no other choice than wearing them and trying his best to  still play an important role but he will understand he is forced about and will end up leaving at end of 2000
 so within two years and half jb mpiana and werrason will have managed to get rid of the 4 other administrators through dirty and ruthless tactics and by the end of 2000 we'll have instead of two group of three admins wenge bcbg de jb mpiana and wenge maison mere de werrason and from then the post-wenge musica era will be very very centered around jb mpiana and werrason like they planned

they planned it in 1998 ? I thought they start to talk to each in private in 2000. I always found it weird that BCBG and Maison Mere were dissing each other strongly despite both leaders being in good terms. I guess it was only business and for creating a buzz around them for JB and Werra. But not for the musicians.(Caludji,Seguin,Ferre,Bill,Baby ect...) It seems like they were taking it more seriously.

mvulusi96 #14 on: March 13, 2018, 21:04

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Emeneya was right back in 2001 saying that their beef was fack and just for business and that they were talking in private. But people didn't believe him thinking that he was jalouse of their succes "saying asila, etc., etc."

But wait if the beef was planned, why would they attack both spiritually ? And why would Werrason being behind JB's 5 year ban, because that weaked their beef. With also Koffi Olomide stepping in and becoming more Koffi Olomide vs J.B. M'piana and Koffi Olomide vs Werrason. I guess thatit pissed Werrason up  the way Koffi was beefing very hard with JB at the end of 2001. Because people started to be more focused on Koffi Olomide vs JB Mpiana and it started to be a competion between both guys, with who could fill Bercy and Stade des Martyrs better and steeling musicians.