Author Topic: Rare concert of Koffi Olomidé & Quartier Latin in Kinshasa (2005)  (Read 1900 times)

Wenge1995 #15 on: May 21, 2023, 09:54

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No it had nothing to do with the genre slowly started to get popular again. It was because of the political situation in Congo mixed with personal issues some people had with artists and seeing it as a gold occassion to punish them with it.

The ban came because many in the Congolese diaspora weren't happy the way artists were close to Joseph Kabila's regime while the situation was getting worser every year in Congo. They were also mad the way bandleaders themselves started to insult and betittle the Congolese diaspora in interviews , while it was the same diaspora who made them who they are today. The setting of Congolese artists living in Kinshasa of 1987 is totally different from that of 2008. Some bandleaders in the 1980s were still living at their familyhouse or renting a small house in normal quarters. It was for a big part due to the big financial support of people living in Europe that they were able to have a much better life. Another reason is that activists wanted to get rid of the label Congolese people had about being distracted only thinking about beer, music, sex and clothes.

The background of the concert-ban were when Congolese music in Europe was on its peak (1998-2003). The same period you had the Congo-war which led to more than 6 millions deaths (mostly in Eastern Congo). But the strange thing is that the majority of Congolese people living in Europe and Kinshasa didn't care about. Most were focused on Werra, JB, Wemba, Koffi, Emeneya, etc. performing at x or y place, releasing an album. Those who were christians only being focused on famous pastors, gospel artists and those VHS with testimonies. Many even didn't knew that there was still a war going on in Congo apart that short moment in 1998 when rebels almost got control over Kinshasa and there no electricity, water being there for a short moment.

When there would be petitions against UN, Belgium, France, UK and USA for making decisions against DR Congo's favour or marches against Rwanda & Uganda. Nobody would show up or sign the petitions. Just a small part of people. Although "peace" coming through the 1+4 governement with the presidential elections, the situation in Congo was still not going well. Combattans felt that it was time for a wake-up call to Congolese people. Seeing that marching and sharing posters to mobilize people wasn't working they made change their strategy by coming with the decision to block concerts and forbid pastors coming from Kinshasa to preach in Europe. Because they felt that artists and pastors were distracted the diaspora and the population living in Kinshasa. By stopping them they knew that there would be more attention to the situation in DR Congo and that many would open their eyes.

Already in 2006, combattans were  warning bandleaders that they would block concerts in Europe if Joseph Kabila would pass the elections. The ban then starting in London by UDPS-combattans threatening JB Mpiana and his bandmembers who were touring in UK. In Paris and Brussels it failed because many activits were still close to either Werra, Koffi or other artists. They succeed in blocking Werra's concerts in 2006 but they ending up by negotiating. With the years coming those who were dissapointed about bandleaders being ingrateful towards and/or doing them would join the cause (more out of anger). Every time when Werrason would come for a big event in Paris, they would try to come with a ban. During Zenith 2008, Werrason almost got kidnapped and many stuff happened behind the scene. At that time, the atmosphere was not good becau

se many were not happy because of the war that just re-started in Eastern Congo in the same period because of Laurent Nkunda. In 2010, the combattans again failed to get Werra's event cancelled. In 2011 when Werrason came for a concert at Elysee Montmarte with Papa Wemba they finally succeed. The crowd that demonstrated the same day being bigger than those who came for the concert. Mostly because many didn't want to pay 100 euros for that event (concert-promoter wanted to make a vip-concert of it with the highest concertfee ever in Europe for Congolese concerts).

 The thing that made it easier for the combattans to succeed that day was because of many people being mad for the way Werrason insulted the Congolese diaspora in an interview about just doing small jobs (construction work, etc.) and that they are nothing. It was also the same period that alot of bad stuff happened. Armand Tungulu who used to live in Belgium got killed in Kinshasa by Joseph Kabila a few months before (JB Mpiana had to perform that week in Brussels, but he cancelled the show out of respect). You had at that time also the Arab spring (protest/revolution in Tunesia & Egypt) which motivated combattans even more.

Concerts could have returned if Werrason kept a low profile but instead of that he was making an interviews to challenge combattans and that nobody would stop him. This motivated alot of people to show up in Brussels to block his third concert after performing with alot of difficulties in Germany. The combattans felt themselves intouchable and saw it as a game. They then came with the statement that there would no concerts if Joseph Kabila would still be in power. After that they succeed in sabotating Fally's Zenith. Fally then performing in front of 50 people despite high security from the police. It totally marked the end of concerts in the Schengen-area. After that they started also to attack politicians and starting making big protest-marches in Brussels and Paris. Also coming with actions in Apple stores to make people aware about children dying in mines.

What's your opinion on the combatants? Do you think they're justified in stopping concerts? I understand their frustration, bringing awareness to the problems in Congo is important and I do believe the music/pastors have too close of a relationship with Kabila when they should be politically neutral.

What I don't understand is how does blocking concerts change the situation in Congo, because the diaspora in Europe don't have influence in Congolese government. If anything, shouldn't the combatants repatriate to RDC and lead a movement to reform the government in Kinshasa.

I don't understand the long-term strategy, because most people understand the situation in Congo is dire. However, musicians from relationship with politicans out of their own self interest. I don't think Wenge Musica and Koffi actually believe Kabila is a good leader, he pays them for their support. However, we know he cheats the election results which is why he has remained despite doing nothing to improve conditions of life

Mfumu Vata #16 on: May 21, 2023, 11:20

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It was good to stop concerts in 2011. But they had to do it for a short-term (for just 1 year) and focus more on politicians and how to be influential in Kinshasa. Because their activism had an uprising in Europe and even those who were not interested in politics were getting interested. Intellectuals who were doing nothing in Europe also became activists and started to write letters to those International Organisations and lobbying for Congo to get more decisions in our favor. But those in Kinshasa were disconnected from it. It's only 6 or 7 years later that people in Kinshasa also started opening their eyes and started to stand up. You will notice that people in Congo are today more focused on politics than music because they want change. On the other side it's also because music isn’t the same anymore like 15 years ago. Even soccer has more success (i am not talking about local soccer) than music in Kinshasa. People are more interested in Real Madrid vs FC Barcelona than following stuff about music. Its only now that Congolese music is slowly returning on the place were it was. There was even a time that foreign music had more succes in Congo itself. The young generation preferring rap and r&b music of Congolese youngsters who were born Europe (Dadju, Kalash, Damso and co) and music from West Africa than music of Heritier, Ferre, Fally, etc.

Blocking concerts doesn’t have any effect in Congo. It only harms the few Congolese artists/bands that are able to get in Europe, who have it already hard. The combattans are cowards and are afraid to fight in Congo.  If you ask combattants why they don't return to start a movement there, they will insult you and say that they don't want to die like those in Kinshasa. It doesn’t make sense because when doing such things you have to sacrifice yourself. They made business from the concert-ban. Most who put a lot of energy in blocking concerts are those who have personal problems with musicians and those who failed in their music-career. Boketshu once clearly explained that was mad about the way he suffered from the period of 1997-2001 and bandleaders calling his producer to not produce. Also the way he struggled in the first years when settling in Europe from 2001. Him promising himself that if he would get power one day, he would kill the career of those who were against him. The same for Celezino who came (I think when being interviewed by Teddy Mola) with a whole story about how he struggled in music and saying that because of that he will do all his best to block musicians to perform in Europe. Ndombolhino once shared a story about a man who was really involved in music, being sung by almost all bandleaders and today being combattant, giving the reason that he would do all the best to prevent Werrason performing because his musician made his daughter pregnant.


When the concert-ban started they just forbade just concerts. But when artists performed at the 3 days congress of PPRD at Stade des Martyrs, they became really radical and came with a list of bandleaders that were forbidden to come to Europe. From that day, bandleaders had to hide like politicians when coming to Europe and fearing for their lives until the moment that they started to pay the combattants like politicians started to do, combattans calming down and sharing the money between them. They even started to get shout-outs in albums, showing up at showcases and in the studio. From that moment the movement started to become less powerful.

There were a few bandleaders who really believed in Kabila (I won't mention their names). But most did it indeed for the money. They were sometimes getting a huge amount of money are reward that they would never get in music. It’s possible to refuse. If they would refuse they would end up like Marie Paul. Back in 2012/13, I met an artist in Aubervilliers (he already pased away a long time ago) who revealed to me that 6 bandleaders received each $200.000 dollars. I will not give more details otherwise you will know who he’s. He also said that even 2 of G-5 got that amount. But I didn’t ask him if it was out of support or to compensate them because of the concert-ban.

Wenge1995 #17 on: May 21, 2023, 17:35

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It was good to stop concerts in 2011. But they had to do it for a short-term (for just 1 year) and focus more on politicians and how to be influential in Kinshasa. Because their activism had an uprising in Europe and even those who were not interested in politics were getting interested. Intellectuals who were doing nothing in Europe also became activists and started to write letters to those International Organisations and lobbying for Congo to get more decisions in our favor. But those in Kinshasa were disconnected from it. It's only 6 or 7 years later that people in Kinshasa also started opening their eyes and started to stand up. You will notice that people in Congo are today more focused on politics than music because they want change. On the other side it's also because music isn’t the same anymore like 15 years ago. Even soccer has more success (i am not talking about local soccer) than music in Kinshasa. People are more interested in Real Madrid vs FC Barcelona than following stuff about music. Its only now that Congolese music is slowly returning on the place were it was. There was even a time that foreign music had more succes in Congo itself. The young generation preferring rap and r&b music of Congolese youngsters who were born Europe (Dadju, Kalash, Damso and co) and music from West Africa than music of Heritier, Ferre, Fally, etc.

Blocking concerts doesn’t have any effect in Congo. It only harms the few Congolese artists/bands that are able to get in Europe, who have it already hard. The combattans are cowards and are afraid to fight in Congo.  If you ask combattants why they don't return to start a movement there, they will insult you and say that they don't want to die like those in Kinshasa. It doesn’t make sense because when doing such things you have to sacrifice yourself. They made business from the concert-ban. Most who put a lot of energy in blocking concerts are those who have personal problems with musicians and those who failed in their music-career. Boketshu once clearly explained that was mad about the way he suffered from the period of 1997-2001 and bandleaders calling his producer to not produce. Also the way he struggled in the first years when settling in Europe from 2001. Him promising himself that if he would get power one day, he would kill the career of those who were against him. The same for Celezino who came (I think when being interviewed by Teddy Mola) with a whole story about how he struggled in music and saying that because of that he will do all his best to block musicians to perform in Europe. Ndombolhino once shared a story about a man who was really involved in music, being sung by almost all bandleaders and today being combattant, giving the reason that he would do all the best to prevent Werrason performing because his musician made his daughter pregnant.


When the concert-ban started they just forbade just concerts. But when artists performed at the 3 days congress of PPRD at Stade des Martyrs, they became really radical and came with a list of bandleaders that were forbidden to come to Europe. From that day, bandleaders had to hide like politicians when coming to Europe and fearing for their lives until the moment that they started to pay the combattants like politicians started to do, combattans calming down and sharing the money between them. They even started to get shout-outs in albums, showing up at showcases and in the studio. From that moment the movement started to become less powerful.

There were a few bandleaders who really believed in Kabila (I won't mention their names). But most did it indeed for the money. They were sometimes getting a huge amount of money are reward that they would never get in music. It’s possible to refuse. If they would refuse they would end up like Marie Paul. Back in 2012/13, I met an artist in Aubervilliers (he already pased away a long time ago) who revealed to me that 6 bandleaders received each $200.000 dollars. I will not give more details otherwise you will know who he’s. He also said that even 2 of G-5 got that amount. But I didn’t ask him if it was out of support or to compensate them because of the concert-ban.

Thank you for explaining, it's a complicated situation. You're absolutely right, radical change in Congo will require some people to sacrifice themselves for their country but the conditions in Europe are far too good for combatants to leave their families and lead a movement in Kinshasa.

Did Kabila punish Marie Paul for refusing his money, what happened to him? I know it can be difficult, but I do applaud him sticking to his values and not getting mixed up with those politicians.

Compared to Kabila, is the current president of Congo an improvement or is he just as bad? I don't really see anything in his past to indicate that we're in good hands, he's definitely not his father. Do you think he'll be reelected or do you think Kabila will steal power? I think I can guess which artist you're referring to lol

Mfumu Vata #18 on: May 22, 2023, 00:32

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I dont understand those combattans why making noise, insulting people who dont support you, critizing opposition polictians who are in Kinshasa and walking in military clothes to intimidate people while you dont want to take the step.

Marie Paul wasn't even contacted by Kabila's clan. Was seen as a traitor by Kabila's clan. This was because he performed months before the elections for late Etienne Tshisekedi at Stade Tata Raphael. At that time Tshisekedi came back from Europe to announce to his suppoters that he would participate to the elections. From that moment life became dangerous for Marie Paul. He would often receive death threats and getting arrested multiple times by ANR. Papa Wemba warned him that artists who were pro-kabila were plotting against him along with influent politicians like Boshab and Kimbuta. Things would only getting worser for Marie Paul when he also performed for Tshisekedi at Stade des Martyrs for the presidential elections. Looking back to it, it was unfair from Tshisekedi's clan to not invite Marie Paul when they took power and them inviting Werrason, JB Mpiana & Wazekewa who first all refused to perform for them.





Felix Tshisekedi is even worser than Kabila. His clan and the ministers is stealing more money than those who used to be with Kabila. They aren't even ashamed of the big amount of money that they are stealing. Life is only getting worser for the population and insecurity being everywhere. Of course Fatshi will be re-elected. They will do their best to commit fraud. Kabila can't comeback because the constitution doesn't allow it unless he comes with a coup which I don't see happen. But this a music-forum. So lets talk about music.

Thinking about Congo's musicindustry with the concert-ban that lasted for 12 years. In all those years Congolese bandleaders could have come together to find a solution to be not indepedent anymore from Europe and fix those issues of soneca/socoda, to live from their royalties. If all those radio's, nightclubs, bars, tv-channels, restaurants, taxi's, shops would pay those taxes properly for playing music, Congolese artists would be millionaires and not having to make 30 songs to please donors and tour months long in Europe to survive. But sadly they are not smart enough to think that way. They prefer to meet ministers, the first lady and the president himself to get some small money which will finish within a days instead of discussing about a proper policy about culture and arts that would save their lives. When it comes to soneca/socoda they prefer to steal so much money they can the moment they get the power.

archos #19 on: May 22, 2023, 14:22

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Bro marie paul was in principle contacted but one of nsone or manda stepped in to block the move because one more big name would reduce the money and then moleka of udps called him,kabila actually liked marie paul a lot its just that some of the guys behind him did not like de paul so they complicated things for him

archos #20 on: May 22, 2023, 14:29

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about the music ban, i agree with you that it has become ineffective,but at the same time,nothing makes more noise than music in DRC,politics made a strong comeback in the recent years but at the end of the day the world of politics in DRC operates exactly like musicians aswell,you'd think you are witnessing a new version of the wenge split if you look at whats happening
i believe combattants hang on to the music ban because they know thats is their activity which catches attention,when they do charity stuff,or sit-ins and all that as long as its not music related it rarely makes any headlines but just 5 minutes of boketshu and esso for example adding ra to the names of artists  and threatening them about concerts will trend for years
also the fact that musicians ALL go to see authorities before coming looks to them like they are coming on a  paid mission to destroy the only little way their voice is heard
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Mfumu Vata #21 on: May 22, 2023, 23:17

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I think that people follow Boketshu more to hear insults and mistakes in French than really following whats going on.

There are no real politicians anymore both of them (power & opposition) are there for themselves and family but no for Congo. Many politicians you see would in Europe not have any right to speak but in Congo they can continue their political career after doing alot of stuff thats wrong. They have also not the culture to resign after a big scandal. Last year, I saw a video of a Cameroonian politican asked by a journalist why he didn't resign and him laughing saying that its something for white people. How will you except change with such mentality




Mfumu Vata #22 on: May 26, 2023, 01:30

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Talking about politics. China did our country very dirty.



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