Probably the most honest sam interview ever

Give us the summary bro

Academia was so lucky to not getting blocked in Kinshasa when coming back from their first tour. It was a miracle the way they got back. I would become sick if they would receive an order to leave the France-territory. Kenzy was cool to let them get proper papers and them coming for the second to Kinshasa with those papers.

It was a big disrespect towards the public from Bouro to show up late during their concert at Intercontinental from their second return to Kinshasa. The concert is on youtube btw. I would have done the same thing as donor to Sam. Bouro could have done it during their 3 or 4th concert, but not the first one. However, Sam Tshintu himself was not saint by doing the same thing as revenge a few concerts later.

Sam and Bouro were right to refuse Suzuki in Academia because of not having the same spirit like them. Suzuki always makes trouble and Sam ended up by being right.

Wow, so Bouro Mpela left the moment Sam Tshintu just arrived in Kinshasa to get the musicians. Must have been a big disappointed from when reading the newspapers. I wonder what would have been happened if he accepted Faustin Djata’s machiavellic plan to leave Academia and made those in Kinshasa recruited “his” musicians. It would have created huge buzz. Maybe that Bouro could have denied his return to Quartier Latin and pointing the finger to Sam for killing Academia and them getting reconciled in Europe with the “bana poto”.

I had to laugh when Sam Tshintu noticed that Mustapha and Clovis were recruited by Somono (having a hidden agenda) as reaction to the in Kinshasa recruited musicians that he brought to Europe. Both guys didn’t even follow Somono to Kinshasa and also didn’t team up with him when he came back to Europe after leaving Academia.

Was surprised that Beniko Popolipo wasn’t part of Academia and not being supposed to be there in Europe with them, but Sam bringing him to Europe out from respect for the way he coached them. Tonton Lay being brought in last minute by “bana yolo” while all visa’s were delivered and him going the place of an administrator.

I always thought that Academia’s first concert in Kinshasa when coming back from Viagra was at YMCa because of Pathy’s interview. Strange to hear that their concert that they did that Parking of GHK was mpiaka. Normally its always packed when a band comes from Europe. I would to like to hear Lebou’s part of the story from his departure. But I hearing’s Sam  Tshintu’s version and comparing it to that of Pathy, I think that Sam was right. Them all having made a clear agreement about nobody being allowed by the guards to come in later than Sam Tshintu during rehearshal, to have a well organised structure, but Lebou not wanting to listen and being mad when not getting allowed to get in.

Those fights they had in Kinshasa after Viagra must be something spiritual. Like how could suddenly a snake appear from the toilet when Lebou and Somono are fighting against eachother and all rehearsals from then being mpiaka ? Madilu was right, going back what he said to them when meeting each other during the mix of Sanction and Pouvoir, about being strong spiritually.

lol, Sam Tshintu not knowing why Somono left. He knows it well. It must have been scary for the musicians of Academia to see Somono coming with gangs to attack them with machetes.
I remember that even Modogo left them for a moment. But those vieux of Binza reconciling them, but I didn’t even knew that even Mboshi left for a moment.  Wasn’t it the same concert of Zaiko at Cinemax that used to be on djomegadt’s channel 10 years ago, being part of the fara-fara Zaiko vs Academia but Academia still being despite Somono’s and Mboshi’s absence? Was it in Europe that Sam reconciled with Mboshi to come back to Kinshasa, them making videos with Mustapha and replying to journalist Serge Kayembe that Academia didn’t disband and them performing at Olympia soon ?

The story of sam tshintu told about the witchdoctor shows that nkisi isn’t anything.

So the guys that prepared their 2002 Europe tour messed everything up. It could be that they were at Koffi’s camp and finally saw it as a gold occasion to kill Academia by going to different embassies with different list of names. This all would have happened if Sam worked with Vieux Wawina again like in 2000 for visa’s. So sad that the ngulu-affair killed them. Sam Tshintu said that it was hard for them in Kinshasa, them not having any instrument and no sponsor. I  thought that they had a contract with Bralima, because I saw him promoting Primus in multiple interviews and Somono saying that he left because Sam not being fair about the contract he signed with Bralima.

Hearing this all shows that doing music in Kinshasa is useless. Werrason, Koffi Olomidé, JB Mpiana and Papa Wemba were still existing because of having massive support from donors. The 4 were really stupid for refusing to not change the system when getting in touch with Joseph Kabila who wanted to help them through Maisha Parc.

Sam Tshintu is a big warrior (i dont mean a Fally-fan), other musicians would have become abandoned a become a brother in christ and blaming rivals for doing nkisi to justify their failure, others would become addicted to drugs and alcohol to forget all the problems. But Sam still fought to get money through concerts in Goma, Bukavu, Kigali, Kampa and Angola, to pay the debts he had from ngulu’s, just to be in peace.

I’m enjoying this interview series, I always wanted him to go to ado yuhe but ado would’ve messed up the interview by asking unnecessary questions.

The guy that sang with them Papy Nzinga was in Quartier Latin, he was in the droit de veto répétition clips presented as the newly recruited musicians. Yeah I wonder why him and paparazzi didn’t stay, Paparazzi was lured into Quartier latin to replace Babia and Mustapha and also Jypson because Koffi wasn’t completely convinced by him. 

That story of them visiting Papa Wemba and him telling Sam he isn’t the leader made me laugh. Interesting revelations. Koffi still hasn’t gotten over Academia being formed because he still can’t bring himself to even say academias name lol

49 concerts in total incluing 6 concerts in Paris is not nothing, they even did New Morning. So they were basically performing twice in a week for months. I wonder if they all their shows in Paris were sold out, because when a bands comes from Kinshasa they will get mpiaka after performing for the third time since that people in Paris mostly like to see something new.

Btw was Sam Tshintu not scared to get arrested when he was performing in Goma & Bukavu ? Because the DGM could get him and put him in jail in Kinshasa for having debts to ngulu’s

I always felt like they stayed to long in Europe during the Viagra-tour. 6 months is the max or need to be Quartier Latin, Maison Mère, Nouvelle Ecriture & Wenge BCBG.

Would have nice  to know why Suzuki and Lebou Kabuya didn’t show up at the first LSC of Eric Menthe and co. Because back then it was stated in the press that they both agreed along with Mboshi to return back in Quartier Latin. Also, Suzuki wasn’t there in the VHS “Nzungu Ekotoko” where Sam presents the new team.  In the concert of Concert Noble it was stated that it was Suzuki’s presentation, but it doesn’t make sense because he was part of their bands for months and them already having several concerts. Must be a way to mask the problems

 normally they should have stayed in french territory, metropolitan france and west indies,until at least 3 years then evolve into an hybrid group the way for exemple warner has done with fally or universal africa with toofan or wanted to do with dj arafat aswell a group with one foot in europe the other in africa
but in less than a year they already went to africa and they were also against making the band bigger,i have a friend who used to be an assistant sound engineer somewhere he is shocked when i tell him that at some point groups like bcbg and maison mere went above 100 musicians,for the european and "professional standard" a group and its reserve is 15 musicians max