Author Topic: SAM TSHINTU IN KINSHASA AFTER YEARS TALKS ABOUT LATINO ACADEMIA...  (Read 756 times)

archos on: August 10, 2019, 14:20

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he says he was singing in school group where he studied alongside his friend jb mpiana bnut already knew alain makaba even before knowing jb because they had a common best friend and when they were in last class of high school modogo and suzuki were 4 classes behind then when they graduated jb was already in wenge musica  and him sam and other guys of the group created flash musica as they wanted to continue with music while going to university and the generation of modogo lebou and co was not in the group at the beginning,then he brought in suzuki and modogo,guys like rocky blanchard lebou also arrived and  koffi discovered them as jb had told sam to come with the group at funerals of blaise kombo and blanchard was the first to be spotted by koffi,then blanchard took one by one suzuki,lebou,willy bula,modogo...and he remained with guys like  sunda bass who was the younger brother of the original founder of the group and its koffi himself who came at their rehearsal to get him to join him and from then koffi had always called him presiden,the guys were surprised to see him at next rehearsal in quartier latin as they thought he'd stay to make the group continue to exist and hopefully one day become a big group and  he says he is really grateful to somebody like babia chokoro  and also willy bula who helped him a lot to improve as a singer and to learn lyrics quickly,he says babia could not stay  10 or 20 minutes without singing and since he played guitar already they were always working to extent that sometimes they'd be chilling and babia would start again to invite him to sing and he'd say come on bro thats enough already so he is really affected by his loss because he became like his own little brother and he is the one who called him "yasham"which became the way musicians were calling him in quartier latin
he added a song shambuyi in magie and he did not appear in clips since he did not travel with the group but it did not bother him to stay behind with eric tutsi because it gave him time to really learn older songs of koffi to really gel with other singers
and they sang the song as it was with his name tshintu samuel in it  despite him being in kin so it shows he was considered
 and in v12 he just did clips too and in the clip of zokere we can see babia mocking him friendly when he appears in clip instead of modogo,so his proper contribution to quartier latin in albums started in ultimatum as he sang his song miss nicole and several vocals
then in droit de veto him and modogo had no songs a bit surprisingly especially for him who became chef d'orchestre while he already had a customer but he did not want to show he is upset because he could have missed olympia tour
when they were preparing olympia tour in kin koffi went for three months in europe and the group was under his responsabilty and they even had some concerts without koffi with money being given to administration of the group
he replaced keyboard player ondoma as chef d orchestre and he believed koffi liked his professionalism,always arriving hours before rehearsals always very dedicated to work,and he adds that he did not saw his status of chef as an opportunity to bully people because for him a good chef has the responsability to create harmony between the boss and other employees
and when koffi returned he said he was not able to do list because they were doing witchcraft on him and he said if they arrived at rehearsal they should not talk to him and that those who would make the list sam would have the responsability to drive to each other their house to inform them
the day after a lot of musicians came to his house to live with him to make sure they are automatically on list then they travelled to zimbabwe and kenya but could not return to congo because of political problems so they went to europe straight away with modogo rosette and binda bass following them
koffi called him to his room and said " pres' can you do the list of singers to take to olympia,i need 4 singers actually 3 plus yourself which reassured him because in quartier latin being a chef means nothing in trips you can stay behind depending on koffi's mood and he said to koffi 4 is too hard since they were more than 4 singers koffi said okay 5 then and he said bouro depitsho suzuki babia and koffi said why didnt you put mamale instead of suzuki and he said to koffi 6then? and he ended up telling koffi to do the list himself
and koffi told him to inform suzuki he wont be on the list and it took him one week and he still could not tell suzuki so he went and told koffi to do it himself and koffi informed suzuki and blanchard they had to  return to DRC and when modogo arrived in europe he told him straight away that he wont return with the group and so did somono when he arrived then at some point of tour they went to germany in the city of monchengladbach and in the train he was sleeping and when he woke up he saw somono champion do akongo depitcho binda champion and mamale talking and one of them said "a traitor is coming" surely because how they know how loyal he was to koffi and he asked who the guy was calling like that and somono who is not the type to hide things said straight away that they are planning to form a band then they started to convince him and during the concert at some point depitcho is chilling with female fans and koffi exposes him on mic and somono responds " hey depitcho do your shit man do not mind him" and koffi was surprised
bouro had already left long ago and gone to his parents in belgium then some of the guys of the reunion switched on them
koffi called him and said "pres' ask musicians what can i do to please them after this succesful tour" and the musicians said they wanted cars and they'll deal with fret issues themselves and koffi said no he'd rather buy them radios which got the musicians furious
pathy bass came to ask for his passport and he gave it to him and frank asks if he did not fear problems with koffi and he said thats the guy's identity he should be free to ask for it and stay
and the group went to tanzania without him and modogo and he convinced modogo to follow them and to their surprise when they arrived koffi told them to give their passports to champion and he  understood that something was going on and koffi surely planning to demote him of chef d'orchestre role and he gave passport but he kept the temporary resident paper knowing he could help him to move if he does not get passport back and ondo informed asked him why he came there because koffi was furious against him and waiting to punish him and he ended up refusing to perform at third concert pretending to be sick and nono ba diamant told him that if he returned to kin with the group koffi would do him dirty  so he contacted somono in europe to start making plans to go to europe as he had the temporary paper they had for their stay during the tour and producer who had a lot of issues with koffi came to them and see if they could go back to kin and bring suzuki and blanchard  to continue performing instead of koffi since koffi is being a diva and he told him they need their passports to go and get suzuki and co and he handed them the passports
and the day of return while musicians were eating him and modogo  went and packed their clothes and sneaked it outside by the second exit door and when they are about to go out and leave with their bags they meet other musicians who were coming from the restaurant and they pretended to go buy something outside of hotel and at the moment they were entering taxi koffi was coming to hotel with babia and koffi understood they had left when asking for passports and seeing that  sam and modogo's were missing
and they took plane and arrived in amsterdam and modogo looked at him and called him che guevara and there started that nickname and when they arrived he called pathy bass who was surprised and that night pathy lebou and somono arrived and they ate and chilled together but there still was no plan of a group and they called bouro and bouro came and there they started thinking about forming the band which we know as quartier latin academia and signed with french label secteur a,and got longterm papers thanks to their job and not through women for example like many cases
and he is asked why they went so hard on koffi and he says they did not went that hard they just had slogans and catch phrases,not like today where you see people openly insulting each other and the group collapsed due to people around fueling each of them's egos and the fact some started going back to quartier latin
he says they did not make much money in academia,they only toured in france and both congo's with sanction then at some point they went to ivory coast and jokes that a influent donor came to him to give him some money for them to share and he showed them it exactly like it was but somono was not trusting and told him to stand up and put his hands up so that he could check his pockets which is funny with him being the president,and apologized when he found that he had nothing in his pocket
and insists they did not make enough money maybe because they did not listen to their label who did not want them to go quickly in africa and wait for promotion which would create a ucrative world tour for them
he says his album will be out soon,but he does not want to have a band like in the past anymore he will come and assemble some guys who are with him at that rehearsal,a limited number so that every of them gets his due money and every of them being free to work with other artists,he longer wants the usual pres' status with never ending recruitment and so on










mvulusi96 #1 on: August 11, 2019, 01:55

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hmmm so if Depitcho didn't had joined Quartier Latin then they would have performed at Olympia with just 4 singers like the previous Europe-tour ?

What I don't understand is that he says that he sung on Magie, but on another interview he made 5 years ago he said that he didn't sung on that album. I didn't like the way Franck underrupted him just finished his vocal of Merlian, because he was about to say that he had to adapt to something, maybe he wanted to say his voice. Because he voice on Magie is so different then on Ultimatum.

I really wonder what Koffi would have done to him and Modogo if they returned. The crazy thing is that Koffi became sick and really depressed when they left. 

Grandpretre #2 on: August 14, 2019, 20:07

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I swear somebody should make a movie about that tour. From the africa tour where they had to left blanchard & suzuki, to koffi cutting suzuki’s passeport, to the germany events, what’s happened in that train & the building of academia.
The story is so intense man.
Imagine koffi saying to the french police about babia at the airport « IF I LET HIM IN EUROPE, HE’LL SELL DRUGS!!! »

masatomo #3 on: August 14, 2019, 20:39

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I don't understand finally Sam did those vocals in Magie with that rough voice not Aladji (except in the générique)

CM PRINCE #4 on: August 14, 2019, 21:26

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I don't understand finally Sam did those vocals in Magie with that rough voice not Aladji (except in the générique)
Sam does sometimes use a different voice, listen to Zabalumbu he uses a different voice similar to the magie one on some parts of the song just listen

archos #5 on: August 14, 2019, 21:47

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i really admire sam's humility to highlight how babia literally made him a better singer,few artists admit that,once they are stars they credit the leader only or themselves

masatomo #6 on: August 15, 2019, 12:43

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I don't understand finally Sam did those vocals in Magie with that rough voice not Aladji (except in the générique)
Sam does sometimes use a different voice, listen to Zabalumbu he uses a different voice similar to the magie one on some parts of the song just listen


Oh I get it

CM PRINCE #7 on: August 15, 2019, 16:23

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I don't understand finally Sam did those vocals in Magie with that rough voice not Aladji (except in the générique)
Sam does sometimes use a different voice, listen to Zabalumbu he uses a different voice similar to the magie one on some parts of the song just listen


Oh I get it
Yeah it’s similar to the Magie voice

mvulusi96 #8 on: August 21, 2019, 23:42

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Thinking about Sam and Modogo's departure in Tanzania. Didn't somebody notice how Koffi stopped praising Binda Bass in 1999, staying often behind in those African-tours prefering Rock Blanchard and Clovis Silawuka above him, not participating on Attentat, not being presented as a loyal veteran on the Droit de Veto-VHS and Sur La de Bercy, etc. until Bercy.

SLK97 #9 on: August 22, 2019, 00:25

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Thinking about Sam and Modogo's departure in Tanzania. Didn't somebody notice how Koffi stopped praising Binda Bass in 1999, staying often behind in those African-tours prefering Rock Blanchard and Clovis Silawuka above him, not participating on Attentat, not being presented as a loyal veteran on the Droit de Veto-VHS and Sur La de Bercy, etc. until Bercy.

Well this is new. Now I'm wondering why Binda stayed loyal to QL after all that happened. If this was in any other band, like Maison Mere (no disrespect), this might have been a 12 to drive him out.

CM PRINCE #10 on: August 22, 2019, 01:11

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Thinking about Sam and Modogo's departure in Tanzania. Didn't somebody notice how Koffi stopped praising Binda Bass in 1999, staying often behind in those African-tours prefering Rock Blanchard and Clovis Silawuka above him, not participating on Attentat, not being presented as a loyal veteran on the Droit de Veto-VHS and Sur La de Bercy, etc. until Bercy.
I was thinking about this today actually, what happened?

mvulusi96 #11 on: August 22, 2019, 01:27

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I don't know, but he had apparently like Modogo, Rosette and Lebou already problems with Koffi before Olympia. I remember that Binda Bass used to be Bouro's best friend in Quartier Latin, maybe that Koffi saw him as a traitor because of that and preparing to punish him very hard in Kinshasa like Mboshi and planning to do the same with Modogo and Sam, but them being smart to return back to Europe. I wonder how he became one of Koffi's again, I guess that his parents helped him a little bit.

Wenge1995 #12 on: August 22, 2019, 05:58

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If I had to guess, Binda's family ties to Koffi definately played a huge role in the second chance he got with Bercy of 2000 but the reserve bassists weren't making it easy for Koffi to replace and forget him.

Rocky Blanchard is the arguably the best bass player Koffi ever had, but he couldn't remain with QL despite his participation on Attentat and supposively having a close relationship to Koffi. Despite playing bass on all the sebenes on Attentat and given the first half of Bercy setlist to play, Clovis remained in Europe rather than returning to Kinshasa to release Force de Frappe. People forget how many musicians Koffi lost after Bercy; that probably convinced him to promote hose who remained. Just a theory...
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CM PRINCE #13 on: August 22, 2019, 09:47

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If I had to guess, Binda's family ties to Koffi definately played a huge role in the second chance he got with Bercy of 2000 but the reserve bassists weren't making it easy for Koffi to replace and forget him.

Rocky Blanchard is the arguably the best bass player Koffi ever had, but he couldn't remain with QL despite his participation on Attentat and supposively having a close relationship to Koffi. Despite playing bass on all the sebenes on Attentat and given the first half of Bercy setlist to play, Clovis remained in Europe rather than returning to Kinshasa to release Force de Frappe. People forget how many musicians Koffi lost after Bercy; that probably convinced him to promote hose who remained. Just a theory...
Rocky didn’t participate in Attentat

Grandpretre #14 on: August 22, 2019, 13:21

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If I had to guess, Binda's family ties to Koffi definately played a huge role in the second chance he got with Bercy of 2000 but the reserve bassists weren't making it easy for Koffi to replace and forget him.

Rocky Blanchard is the arguably the best bass player Koffi ever had, but he couldn't remain with QL despite his participation on Attentat and supposively having a close relationship to Koffi. Despite playing bass on all the sebenes on Attentat and given the first half of Bercy setlist to play, Clovis remained in Europe rather than returning to Kinshasa to release Force de Frappe. People forget how many musicians Koffi lost after Bercy; that probably convinced him to promote hose who remained. Just a theory...

Binda & koffi have family ties? I didn’t know
Rocky blanchard been loyal for nothing, I didn’t even knew that he could participate in effrakata. I guess koffi still had grudge that he went to zaiko.
Nobody know what kind of problems modogo rosette binda lebou & somono has with koffi before olympia?
I think there were rumors that modogo would join zaiko...