Author Topic: THE SECRET BEHIND ALBUM TITLES  (Read 13855 times)

archos on: October 14, 2013, 14:01

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any ideas guys? i will develop after a couple of answers
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mvulusi96 #1 on: October 14, 2013, 16:50

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I don't know. The only thing that I know is that the most names are reactions and reference to a pact or period. Examples are Kibuisa Mpimpa, Force d'Intervation Rapide, Solola Bien, Titanic, Anti Terro, Monde Arabe, Danger de Mort where Werrason reacted with Sous Sol, Temps Present, Arche de Noe, K.O. Debout, Yebela Visision, Noblesse Oblige, Magie, Power, Boite Noire, Qui est Derriere Toi, Sens Interdite & Miracles(who was not a big succes as it was expected and it was also changed in Temoinages)

Ey Archos I remember that you and Prince28 wrote a thread about Werrason&Jb. A there was a moment that you wanted to write about the mystery of Chemin de Fer, but you didn't began with it, because of some reasons
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shamala #2 on: October 14, 2013, 16:54

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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
any ideas guys? i will develop after a couple of answers


I think JB uses album titles as a statements titanic th  anti terro kipe yayo quel  ton problem soyon seriux. I guess they are directed against people or events in his life. how about the funny names of primus songs kiyunguzuna muenya kindingudi etc
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archos #3 on: October 14, 2013, 21:12

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<cite>@mvulusi96 said:</cite>
I don't know. The only thing that I know is that the most names are reactions and reference to a pact or period. Examples are Kibuisa Mpimpa, Force d'Intervation Rapide, Solola Bien, Titanic, Anti Terro, Monde Arabe, Danger de Mort where Werrason reacted with Sous Sol, Temps Present, Arche de Noe, K.O. Debout, Yebela Visision, Noblesse Oblige, Magie, Power, Boite Noire, Qui est Derriere Toi, Sens Interdite & Miracles(who was not a big succes as it was expected and it was also changed in Temoinages)

Ey Archos I remember that you and Prince28 wrote a thread about Werrason&Jb. A there was a moment that you wanted to write about the mystery of Chemin de Fer, but you didn't began with it, because of some reasons


titanic represented the death of wenge musica,like sinking of boat titanic,and jb and co claimed they were safe after the sinking,interventation rapide meant it was actually werra and co who were safe(you will hear in the beginning of generique,werra say pipiyu musada lelo intervention rapide), pipiyu was a branch of  congolese police specialized in emergency intervention
i have  asked my brother about kibuisa mpimpa since my kikongo is poor despite being a mpangi lol, kibuisa mpimpa is eclipse in french,werra fallait asala yango avant solola bien meme avant intervention kutu mais tango atambola epa bato ya mystique bayebisa yé zelisa yango okobimisa yango  le 21 juin je crois,oyo ezalaki pé mokolo ya eclipse na monde( na nzembo ya  alisi baba,werra aloba mbuta fraga omoni eclipse kibuisa mpimpa eye)
operation dragon atia pembeni comme deuxieme titre e representer  kisi awutaki ko signer
pona chemin de fer eza ndenge moko, wana pena kati,mutu na nga kalukemba(tutu caludji) mutu abetela nga lisolo
alobaki na nga,mukulu  pe atamboli trop po alingi album wana eboma mokili ndenge feux de l amour esala bayebisa yé soki omeki kobimisa sans to pesa yo permission okomona,yango wana mukulu heure moko asalaka neti ekobima année oyo bo a tester degré ya moto ya album,sinon ba  pré enregistrement ya chemin de fer etondeli yé na palais soki alobi ekobima  6 mois kutu eza ebele mais azozela,et puis selon tutu bayebisa yé apesa quelques membres ya mouvement na batu mosusu ebele,nayebi té soki asi asali yango
tozela kaka,mais tina penza oyo  chemin de fer ewumeli bongo yango wana
okomona mokolo akozua autorisation ye wana mbangu ekobima date tel ou tel
entre parenthese kimbombi ya marie paul eza pé bongo  esili deja deja  mais azozela

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deanglo #4 on: October 14, 2013, 21:36

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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
titanic represented the death of wenge musica,like sinking of boat titanic,and jb and co claimed they were safe after the sinking,interventation rapide meant it was actually werra and co who were safe(you will hear in the beginning of generique,werra say pipiyu musada lelo intervention rapide), pipiyu was a branch of  congolese police specialized in emergency intervention
i have  asked my brother about kibuisa mpimpa since my kikongo is poor despite being a mpangi lol, kibuisa mpimpa is eclipse in french,werra fallait asala yango avant solola bien meme avant intervention kutu mais tango atambola epa bato ya mystique bayebisa yé zelisa yango okobimisa yango  le 21 juin je crois,oyo ezalaki pé mokolo ya eclipse na monde( na nzembo ya  alisi baba,werra aloba mbuta fraga omoni eclipse kibuisa mpimpa eye)
operation dragon atia pembeni comme deuxieme titre e representer  kisi awutaki ko signer
pona chemin de fer eza ndenge moko, wana pena kati,mutu na nga kalukemba(tutu caludji) mutu abetela nga lisolo
alobaki na nga,mukulu  pe atamboli trop po alingi album wana eboma mokili ndenge feux de l amour esala bayebisa yé soki omeki kobimisa sans to pesa yo permission okomona,yango wana mukulu heure moko asalaka neti ekobima année oyo bo a tester degré ya moto ya album,sinon ba  pré enregistrement ya chemin de fer etondeli yé na palais soki alobi ekobima  6 mois kutu eza ebele mais azozela,et puis selon tutu bayebisa yé apesa quelques membres ya mouvement na batu mosusu ebele,nayebi té soki asi asali yango
tozela kaka,mais tina penza oyo  chemin de fer ewumeli bongo yango wana
okomona mokolo akozua autorisation ye wana mbangu ekobima date tel ou tel
entre parenthese kimbombi ya marie paul eza pé bongo  esili deja deja  mais azozela


Archos, you always do a wonderful job bringing the rest of closer to not only Congolese music but the culture. I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.

(As a foot note, if you ever run into Markation, tell her I extend my good wishes.)  
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shamala #5 on: October 14, 2013, 23:47

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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
titanic represented the death of wenge musica,like sinking of boat titanic,and jb and co claimed they were safe after the sinking,interventation rapide meant it was actually werra and co who were safe(you will hear in the beginning of generique,werra say pipiyu musada lelo intervention rapide), pipiyu was a branch of  congolese police specialized in emergency intervention
i have  asked my brother about kibuisa mpimpa since my kikongo is poor despite being a mpangi lol, kibuisa mpimpa is eclipse in french,werra fallait asala yango avant solola bien meme avant intervention kutu mais tango atambola epa bato ya mystique bayebisa yé zelisa yango okobimisa yango  le 21 juin je crois,oyo ezalaki pé mokolo ya eclipse na monde( na nzembo ya  alisi baba,werra aloba mbuta fraga omoni eclipse kibuisa mpimpa eye)
operation dragon atia pembeni comme deuxieme titre e representer  kisi awutaki ko signer
pona chemin de fer eza ndenge moko, wana pena kati,mutu na nga kalukemba(tutu caludji) mutu abetela nga lisolo
alobaki na nga,mukulu  pe atamboli trop po alingi album wana eboma mokili ndenge feux de l amour esala bayebisa yé soki omeki kobimisa sans to pesa yo permission okomona,yango wana mukulu heure moko asalaka neti ekobima année oyo bo a tester degré ya moto ya album,sinon ba  pré enregistrement ya chemin de fer etondeli yé na palais soki alobi ekobima  6 mois kutu eza ebele mais azozela,et puis selon tutu bayebisa yé apesa quelques membres ya mouvement na batu mosusu ebele,nayebi té soki asi asali yango
tozela kaka,mais tina penza oyo  chemin de fer ewumeli bongo yango wana
okomona mokolo akozua autorisation ye wana mbangu ekobima date tel ou tel
entre parenthese kimbombi ya marie paul eza pé bongo  esili deja deja  mais azozela



Archos my French and lingala is zero please repeat in anglais
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mvulusi96 #6 on: October 14, 2013, 23:53

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Eza na mutu alobaki que boule ya Werra ezali que abimisa Arche de Noe en meme temps que Chemin de Fer.
Si Si Si ebima le 21 Juin 2001. 12 jour wana evenement wana, ayaki kobeta na Stade des Martyrs. Il parait que entree naye na stade ezalaki tres diabolique(oyo asalaki elongo na ba Bapende)sima aye kobimbisa ba pigeons na carton oyo amemaki.
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archos #7 on: October 15, 2013, 00:40

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oui oui entree wana awutaki kokufa na kosekwa na ndenge na bango wana, donc moto ya danger
nazalaka na stade jour ango,entree ya werra ezalaka mystique ya mystique,neti ba indiens ba fleches,batu bazo avaler moto sima ba bimisi milinga....
effectivement,lisolo wana eza vrai ya chemin de fer na arche
tango nasololaki na tutu ayebisi nga nsone na mukulu bazo preparer yango tres tres bien
souci na bango ezalaka bakufa toujours na top ya kosakana té


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mvulusi96 #8 on: October 15, 2013, 00:49

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babosani ndenge Vieux Luambo asuka
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archos #9 on: October 15, 2013, 17:35

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i am certain emo wanted to understand my conversation with mvulusi so here is the translation

i said kibuisa mpimpa meant eclipse and that werra wanted to record that album before solola bien,even before intervention rapide but when he went around the world to see sorcerers  he was told to wait until they give him an "go ahead" statement
and then he was told to release it the day of eclipse which was 21 of june but werra was announcing well before in interviews that the day the album will be out there will be an eclipse and  his album will receive a very crazy reception that day
in his song un prince au congo he made a hint about it as he dedicated a witchdotor of his village and asked " do you see the eclipse, this is kibuisa mpimpa"
the tile operation dragon which was added to the name of album was inspired by the sorcerers he went to see in asia
it meant werra reached a  a very high level in witchcraft as he did the "dragon pact" like rapper sisqo for example
for chemin de far, it is the same my friend tutu caludji once told me that jb had also seen sorcerers all around the world so that chemin de fer has a  very very crazy success,he even says maybe he wont release any album for a decade after chemin de far
sometimes he announces album will be out soon to see how much the album is  eagerly expected(  and estimate the level of success it will have)
 he has  a lot of pre records of chemin de fer at home the day they will give him the go ahead  album will not even take 6 month to be ready,and the day he will be given the go ahead he will set a particular date and respect it to perfection
same is happening with marie paul and his album
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SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #10 on: October 15, 2013, 17:43

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Thanx for the info archos, I am fed up of waiting for Chemin De Fer, those sorcerers need to recall JB and tell him exactly when he's releasing it. :lol:
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archos #11 on: October 15, 2013, 17:46

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second of part of the translation,mvulusi asked me about werra's concert at stade des martyrs  before release of kibuisa and arche de noe vs chemin de fer
 i replied yes,before that concert werra "died" three days and came back( witchcraft) so he was  very very very strong
his entrance had a lot of mystical signs
werra himself wore  a couple of mystical things on him and there were guys he was sent to by sorcerers who made many mustical things,it was even reported in congolese press, they threw arrows,fire-eating,an so on
and also werra  threw 11 bats into the crowd before starting to sing
the concert happened exactly 12 days before release of kibuisa,on reccomandation from sorcerers
werra and jb secretly plan to release their albums the same day at the same hour to completely dominate congolese music
i said also that jb and werra want to be very succesful until their death and mvulusi said they should remember how franco ended after excessive use of witchcraft
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archos #12 on: October 15, 2013, 18:09

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more recently there is abracadabra( magic formula as we all know) another title was added aside it was "tous dans mes bras" in english" all in my hands"
people do not know it but the date of release coincided perfectly with the day one of his girlfriends had a miscarriage of twins,and the day of relese instead of mourning the babies koffi made that girl drink champagne and celebrate
koffi says this album is  the only one of his whole career to have insane success in every of the 24 communes of kinshasa and by very far the one he has sold the most
even more recently boite noire and power
boite noire is the idea of  wrestler edingwe who initiated ferre into world of witchcraft
it is the start of ferre on the way of doing the "dragon pact" aswell soon
he was asked  a certian nubmer of people to give through any possible way to reach a higher level
the day album was released there were  many accidents on the very same road in ferre's childhood quarter of kasavubu
power of fally was inspired from kanye west's power,as fally has or is trying hard to enter "their world"(illuminati and all those stuff)
fally sees kanye as a model and whenever he is in states tries to become friends with those guys,usher,drake and co
ferré's toko kendé na bango likolo au dela de la troisieme corde was a hidden message to fally as he knew fally was entering another dimension and he was telling him he we is also be up there or even stronger than him
he even took nickname "fantome" (ghost) and suddenly abandoned it once album was out

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<cite>@archos said:</cite>
second of part of the translation,mvulusi asked me about werra's concert at stade des martyrs  before release of kibuisa and arche de noe vs chemin de fer
 i replied yes,before that concert werra "died" three days and came back( witchcraft) so he was  very very very strong
his entrance had a lot of mystical signs
werra himself wore  a couple of mystical things on him and there were guys he was sent to by sorcerers who made many mustical things,it was even reported in congolese press, they threw arrows,fire-eating,an so on
and also werra  threw 11 bats into the crowd before starting to sing
the concert happened exactly 12 days before release of kibuisa,on reccomandation from sorcerers
werra and jb secretly plan to release their albums the same day at the same hour to completely dominate congolese music
i said also that jb and werra want to be very succesful until their death and mvulusi said they should remember how franco ended after excessive use of witchcraft




Wow..this is serious.  I was told by my fiance who is Congolese how heavily involved in witchcraft these musicians are, I did not quite believe him, until I joined this forum.  It is truly sad, to see that these artist who are immensely talented result to using diabolic means to achieve success.  They sell their souls to the devil, one day it will come back to haunt them or their families(children or grand-children inclusive).  With all these diabolic means still they are not as popular as a Celine Dion or Toni Braxton; Who used their talents to gain world recognition without the use of witchcraft.  We dance and sing to these songs, unaware of what goes on behind the scene. I have been told to stop listening to these artists because of their involvement in the underworld and so far it's been difficult.  What can I say? I love Congolese music...God help me.
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archos #14 on: October 15, 2013, 18:50

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you can actually listen,same with hip hop and co
 you can listen as long as it's just the music in itself(melody arrangement and co) which pleases you rather than everything those guys do or say becoming your way of life,then you are under their control
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