Author Topic: THE STORIES OF WENGE MUSICA 4X4 AND EXTRA MUSICA  (Read 23506 times)

kipeyayo #15 on: March 14, 2014, 06:31

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extra musica remain to this day my favorite Congolese band. what made them great was that  their generique were not long and tedious with too many interchange like those of Werrason and Fallys of the world. extra musica generique tend to be 7 to 8 minute long with great sebene and danceable tune . even their rumba were short and had a sebene at the end. i wish the other Congolese band would use the extra musica formula instead of having long genereique with long boring rumba songs . its why extra musica remain very popular in Africa and their music are always played in African parties

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #16 on: March 14, 2014, 17:54

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extra musica remain to this day my favorite Congolese band. what made them great was that  their generique were not long and tedious with too many interchange like those of Werrason and Fallys of the world. extra musica generique tend to be 7 to 8 minute long with great sebene and danceable tune . even their rumba were short and had a sebene at the end. i wish the other Congolese band would use the extra musica formula instead of having long genereique with long boring rumba songs . its why extra musica remain very popular in Africa and their music are always played in African parties
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archos #17 on: March 14, 2014, 23:19

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fFROM MULOLO TO THE SPLIT

First album mulolo(also called bouger bouger) recorded in studio bobongo  is a great succes in congo,wenge musica  is heavily inspired by victoria eleison(werrason for kester,blaise for joly,jb for debaba  and so on...)
the group gets revelation of the year award,and mulolo credited to jb mpiana is song of the year
at that time,the lineup is werrason,jb mpiana,blaise bula and ricoco as singers(alain mpela,marie paul and manda chante as reserve,alain makaba on lead,djolina on rhythm,blaise kombo on mi-solo didier masela on bass,don pierrot on mbonda, maradona on drums
shortly after album,mi-soloist collegien zola,bassist delo bass aswell as singer jean didier loko(JDL) join the group but JDL less than a month after is sent to europe to study in a french university
the group start getting popular in kinshasa and congo and intend to extend their popularity to europe and rest of the world with the desire of recording their next album in europe and also touring to present their first one
meanwhile,patient kusangila joins the group as a rhythm guitarist because the group already had 3 bassists and the firs atalakus of the group,roberto ekokota wunda,full king and kennedy mbala all arrive from folkloric group bana odéon,drummer titina who was schoolmate with jb mpiana and blaise bula arrives,kennedy does not last in the group and joins folkloric group swede swede
drummer pipo and singer ricoco are lucky to arrive in france with false papers but  the administrators jb,werra,makaba and masela and the rest of the group are rejected,jailed for a day and released thanks to mobutu family
in fact during the times before and during mulolo recording,manda mobutu aka maitre madova,nzanga mobutu aka november and kongolo mobutu aka saddam hussein the children of president mobutu develop strong friendship with members of wenge musica and especially jb mpiana and werrason 
a big drama happens in the group,as mi-soloist blaise kombo dies after a car accident while going back home after a wenge musica concert,this leads to a lot of controversy
in fact,a version almost confirmed by group members explains that accident was planned and it was the first person to go on stage that day who would die,blaise kombo was the first to go on stage for soundcheck of his guitar,followed by maradona
the very same maradona leaves the group following that incident,along with delo bass
in 1991,the group finally arrives in paris without alain mpela who had exams,manda chante and atalaku full king
they record album kin e bouger which is a massive success and earns them award of best group and the group's lead singer jb mpiana gets best singer award
adolpe rejoins the group while marie paul abandons them as he feels undervalued
one year after in brussels the group records album pleins feux with songs like djino of werrason, dady bitodi of djolina and jb mpiana,ave maria of blaise bula....marked by the arrival of soloist mi-soloist fifi mwamba "ficarré ngenge" and keyboard player désiré kalala and the participation of manda chante
album is not released then due to conflict with producer(one of mobutu children
then in 1993,the group records album kalayi boeing once again in europe and shortly after manda chante leaves as he  felt not supported enough by leaders jb mpiana and werrason during   his mysterious disease
when back in congo,its time to replace manda, many tenorists are tested,the most famous of them being babia chokoro his former group mate in yoka choc,papy sesele aka adjani and of course blaise yombo lumbu aka tutu caludji and aimelia lias miankodila who are those who are picked,aimelia replacing manda and tutu being sent to atalaku section,there starts a revolution in wenge musica and in the whole congolese music aswell
,alain makaba had stayed in europe since their first tour and ficarré became the main soloist,and is later joined by vincent kasongo mbokaliya burkina faso
the rest of the group come back to europe without mbokaliya and caludji but with ali mbonda who replace don pierrot who left during their 1992 tour
album les anges adorables  is well appreciated by fans like other albums and the group keeps rising and is now a massive african group
during 1994 tour,the 4 administrators ponder releasing solo albums following advice from papa denewade
alain makaba is the first to start with album pile of face one year later,which he records using only jb mpiana,ekokota and titina
burkina faso becomes main soloist in kinshasa and in the same year three musicians are recruitied:guitarist fiston savimpi zamuangana(son of enoch zamuangana of zaiko) and singer hervé gola bataringe aka ferre chair de poule both coming from group rumba des jeunes aswell as drummer/mbonda player blaise seguin bongongo  aka seguin mignon coming from kibinda nkoy
the fact makaba is installed in europe means promotion of album does not affect the group's promotion in kinshasa so ego wars do not appear yet
but jb mpiana and werrason start preparing in private with the help of the likes of jules kibens and boguys bompema for jb,serge mabiala and alpatchino for  werrason
the group performs for the first time in USA in the same year without alain makaba who remained in europe to continue jazz lessons and who became a bit independent from the group
after succesful america tour,the group records album pentagone in belgium with participation of alain makaba and head back to kinshasa
once in kinshasa,burkina faso leaves the group the day  and is replaced by japonais maladi kambuku comiing from station japana
album pentagone pushes wenge musica even higher and  this is when ego wars appear as jb mpiana decides to  record his album with producer simon ndjonang "simon music" who already produced pentagone
werrason does not appreciate jb's idea as  they started planning another group album and  unlike makaba jb would promote album in kinshasa and use the whole group to record with and for him
jb finally records with the group but conflict is open between both leaders and slowly the group starts becoming divided in two parts
nevertheless,album feux de l'amour by jb mpiana  is  a big big hit, jb is influenced by producer following positive economical results of  that album to record another one straight away and this makes conflicts even worse
 the group is then divided in two,bana mindele of jb mpiana,blaise bula and later makaba(who were fubu and other american brands),ba japonais with werra,adolphe masela(who wear japanese brands) and simple employees who are used by both camps
they perform in african countries separately and when alain makaba receives money and gives salaries to musicians  werra is furious as before they used to share it  between leaders only then a small part to be shared between simple band members
during reunions to reconcile them, werra is so angry against jb having betrayed  him by allowing makaba to pay musicians on his back that he threatens to beat him
in december 1997,after a month of unsuccesful talks,the group ends up splitting



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mvulusi96 #18 on: March 15, 2014, 00:47

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I found it really stupid that they sacrificed Blaise Kombo, was it really necessary to do it?

Tutu Calugi had really diffculty to adampt himself as an atalaku in the beginning, he was really a 'faux animateur' maybe that's also the reason that he didn't participate in the album Anges Adorables.

I'm hearing sometimes that Wenge not could perform or releasing albums in 1995, because of an conflict with Saddam Hussein like Koffi & Wenge El Paris in the past. But what was the reason of the ban? I'm sure that Wenge would not split if Mobutu still had the power in Zaire.


Tunutu #19 on: March 15, 2014, 07:51

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Thank you Archo for a nice story, you have pointed out that only, JB, Titina and Roberto participated on Pile Au Face, now who was the teno atalaku, i thought it was Caludgi.

Ken Bilele #20 on: March 15, 2014, 08:10

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Now this one has given another dimension all together, can I tentatively say that it's JB who brought  down Wenge with his personal ambitions?

archos #21 on: March 15, 2014, 08:54

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yes and no,like i said he was influenced by producer who proposed  him a lot of money and support for creation of bcbg,and  also his idol papa wemba who told him he was the guy who was carrying the group and he should go solo ,jb did not understand that  it was coming from jealousy
also the fact werra wanted to beat him in front of band members and authorities made it clear for him that it was over and one day after they started wenge bcbg at blaise bula's house
jb's desire was that they could release solo albums while also doing group albums but then feux de lamour was so succesful that every single contract they got was for feux de l'amour  so it made werra feel belittled
werra before the split also had solo ambitions,he contacted titina,ficarré,mbokaliya...and told them they would tour together separately from the group but did not happen because the contracts that where coming were only about feux de l'amour
so when those guys went in bcbg instead of maison mere,werra was pissed
also,there was a song supposed to be jb and werra only in feux de l'amour but werra refused to participate(the song was finally used in internet,the song feux d'artifices)
both had strong solo ambitions but could not understand each other,and those who were jealous of the group used it to destroy them

masatomo #22 on: March 15, 2014, 09:40

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Adjani was tested in Wenge Musica BCBG 4x4 ? I didn't know he was that old.

archos #23 on: March 15, 2014, 09:53

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Thank you Archo for a nice story, you have pointed out that only, JB, Titina and Roberto participated on Pile Au Face, now who was the teno atalaku, i thought it was Caludgi.

it's titina who did tutu's role on pile ou face

archos #24 on: March 15, 2014, 09:57

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I found it really stupid that they sacrificed Blaise Kombo, was it really necessary to do it?

Tutu Calugi had really diffculty to adampt himself as an atalaku in the beginning, he was really a 'faux animateur' maybe that's also the reason that he didn't participate in the album Anges Adorables.

I'm hearing sometimes that Wenge not could perform or releasing albums in 1995, because of an conflict with Saddam Hussein like Koffi & Wenge El Paris in the past. But what was the reason of the ban? I'm sure that Wenge would not split if Mobutu still had the power in Zaire.

the ban came because of a bit of conflict they had over girls,even adolphe was seriously beaten because he was the one being with that  girl saddam wanted he could have jailed the whole group but its their mother who really appreciated jb and werra who avoided it and years after they could release it

masatomo #25 on: March 15, 2014, 10:55

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 They beat Blaise Bula not Adolphe.                       
I found it really stupid that they sacrificed Blaise Kombo, was it really necessary to do it?

Tutu Calugi had really diffculty to adampt himself as an atalaku in the beginning, he was really a 'faux animateur' maybe that's also the reason that he didn't participate in the album Anges Adorables.

I'm hearing sometimes that Wenge not could perform or releasing albums in 1995, because of an conflict with Saddam Hussein like Koffi & Wenge El Paris in the past. But what was the reason of the ban? I'm sure that Wenge would not split if Mobutu still had the power in Zaire.

the ban came because of a bit of conflict they had over girls,even adolphe was seriously beaten because he was the one being with that  girl saddam wanted he could have jailed the whole group but its their mother who really appreciated jb and werra who avoided it and years after they could release it

wuodsimba #26 on: March 15, 2014, 11:08

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Archos apart from big egos of jb and werra, i think  tribalism also led  to the break-up of wenge 4 x4 ?

archos #27 on: March 15, 2014, 11:08

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Adolphe aswell,he was put in a car hood by congolese  soldiers and brought somewhere during a wenge musica concert,but the story was not very popular as adolphe was already back with the group one week after
wenge even stopped their concert that day because they lost focus due to how adolphe was "kidnapped"(alain mpela and aimelia used to mock adolphe in private that  they slapped him  very hard on his big  bottom lol)

archos #28 on: March 15, 2014, 11:10

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Archos apart from big egos of jb and werra, i think  tribalism also led  to the break-up of wenge 4 x4 ?

the tribalism issue arrived after when they went solo, with jb not being to perform in werra's region and vice-versa

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #29 on: March 15, 2014, 12:29

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Archos le internet, thank you for this great deal of info!!!
LE GRAND SAPEUR