Author Topic: The unreleased diss-song of Marie Paul towards Werrason  (Read 653 times)

Manzambi94 #15 on: May 20, 2020, 12:57

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Koffi supported Werra in 1998 by giving alot of expansive clothes, money and some strategy. Werra & Adolphe would give him some shoutouts in return in the songs Mission Impossible & Chantal Switzerland. But they would quickly fell out just before the release of Intervention Rapide, because Werra suspected him for wanting to steal Ferre Gola. From then Werra wasn’t mentioning him anymore in the tolingana-vocal of Coco Madimba during concerts. After that Werrason returned, Koffi & home shorted their problems out and they became close again. The press called their friendship fake, they came together to the Zaiko-rehearshal at Kimpwanaza and they started chilling to together like in the past. But their relationship became cold again, because Koffi was mad that Werrason didn’t congratulate him for the Bercy-show. He was so mad that he was thinking about starting to JB. After Force de Frappe, Koffi went to Europe and he met Werrason, they became cool again and Werrason gave Koffi & his ex’wife a shoutout in Ntima Mboté. Koffi started to praise him often in interviews and would give him a shoutout in Bilan. But Werrason started to become mad the way Koffi was attacking JB very strongly and saying in private that he wanted to end the Wenge mythe. Despite that he gave his fans the order to support Koffi for his Stade des Martyrs-concert (in order to have a bigger crowd than JB) and welcome him at the airport. After that event Werra’s staff started to report more and more stories about Koffi talking bad about Werra, which mad their relationship once again becoming cold. Werra wasn’t also liking the way he was copying Maison Mere and came some shots in A La Que Leu Leu (llke "balobi moninga a tricher moninga te hein") and sending Bill to throw shots at Kerozene and Koffi in interviews (tata oyo suki naye ebandaka awa, for the way Koffi had braids starting in the middle of his head) and  the song Style Moomberg (Tata oyo atindaka moninga atambola na photocopie ya mokanda na nga). After it Werra accused Koffi for wanting to corrupt his dancers to stay in Europe. WMM-Fans also entered the war, claiming that Koffi copied Maison Mere’s intro of double zenith in the No Touch a Ling-videoclip. The war became official when Koffi openly attacked Werrason in an interview with the French diaspora radio Africa N1 and Werra reacting softly by saying that Koffi can’t produce the stuff he does on stage. After it Koffi tried to lure Ferre, JDT and Bill info Quartier Latin by offering money, but they all refused. Then when the Les Marquis was made, Koffi came proud on tv and said “sikoyo toko tala soki ako sala lisusu nini” and Werra with his staff being furious, accusing Koffi being behind the creation of Le Marquis. Bill would refer to it in the song Trshison “vous accuser Mopao eeh c’est la trahison". After that Koffi would reconcile again with Werrason during Maïsha Parc, Werra inviting him at La Zamba Playa and some weeks later at LSC. But the Peace wouldn’t last long, because Werrason, his staff and fans would declare war when Ferre Gola joined Quartier Latin. With both camps firings shots, the most coming from QL’s side. Koffi then ridiculizing Werrason often in the media for the fact that can’t sing but calls himself formateur, that Werra bought his when he was very old and that he never comes to the Maïsha meetings, because he has to pray with frère Patrice. Koffi tried to lure Flamme Kapaya into Quartier Latin by offering money, a house in Bandal and a new car, Flamme almost accepted the offer. But when the affair was known the press, Flamme ran away, getting already threats from Maison Mere fans. In the same period Werra recruited Brigade & Patience, Koffi then becoming mad and saying in private that he would buy a gun to kill for fact that he recruited Patience who was more than a dancer (Ferre wanted said that he would talk about it in 2ème soin who never came) and that he would put his money to finish Maison Mere. Koffi tried to lure Kakol, Eboa Lotin, J3 and Héritier in Quartier Latin but it all didn’t work. He even kidnapped spokemen King Tekila to convince him to get them into QL, but it didn’t work. After that Werrason and Koffi again reconciled with each other and they planned a fara-fara concert on the same stage at Elysee Montmarte, but the event got cancelled after that Werra staff suspected Koffi for wanting to plan something nasty against Koffi and the war restarting again and both camps firings shots until Wemba’s death and many stuff happening behind the scenes.

Eboa Lotin is slapping himself for not taking that offer. But why do so much Maison Mere Members (who were unpaid) rejected Koffi's offer knowing he would give those cars and those money to them? I mean people now might say yesit is Maison Mere they had better chance going solo than join Koffi and be successful but at the time no one would know if a solo career would go well so it was brave but also stupid to stay with Werrra by those Maison Mere members

Kizito #16 on: May 20, 2020, 13:08

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Patience Ibembo Pachanga, my favourite Kofi Dancer, I was suspecting that Kofi would not abstain from testing that Juice. I am jealous 

Mfumu Vata #17 on: May 20, 2020, 13:16

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After being left behind by Werrason for Zenith 2008, Eboa Lotin went himself to Montfleury, asking Koffi if he could join Quartier Latin. But Koffi Olomide refused, saying that he want to focus only on Cindy Le Coeur and gave him some money and clothes. In Kinshasa if a musician went to the house of a bandleader, everybody knows it. So from then Eboa brought his position in Maison Mere more in danger and Werrason wasn't talking to him anymore and feared him, because people of his staff said that Koffi gave Eboa nkisi to finish him, which wasn't true. So that's also why they left him behind for Zenith 2010, despite having a recorded a song in Kinshasa for Malewa 2.

BercysFinest98 #18 on: May 20, 2020, 13:31

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Marie Paul and Kofi Olomide, helped Werra during the separation of Wenge, with one clear motive, to weaken  Jb Mpiana who at the time was riding high with the success of Feux D Amour. They wanted to have two weakened Wenge. However to their surprise just like COVID 19 has mutated and start to infect human, Werrason became too Big and a threat to their Domination and they had to find a way to contain him. And the spelled the end of Marie Paul, it was now all about Werra. in the early 2000s the completion was now between Werra and Kofi.
I'm guessing that with Koffi, there's a hidden clue in the song "Motomolo" that's directed towards Werra

Why did they fall out then?
Personally I believe its because of the Ferre situation! Which was years later!

Wenge1995 #19 on: May 20, 2020, 23:22

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Koffi supported Werra in 1998 by giving alot of expansive clothes, money and some strategy. Werra & Adolphe would give him some shoutouts in return in the songs Mission Impossible & Chantal Switzerland. But they would quickly fell out just before the release of Intervention Rapide, because Werra suspected him for wanting to steal Ferre Gola. From then Werra wasn’t mentioning him anymore in the tolingana-vocal of Coco Madimba during concerts. After that Werrason returned, Koffi & home shorted their problems out and they became close again. The press called their friendship fake, they came together to the Zaiko-rehearshal at Kimpwanaza and they started chilling to together like in the past. But their relationship became cold again, because Koffi was mad that Werrason didn’t congratulate him for the Bercy-show. He was so mad that he was thinking about starting to JB. After Force de Frappe, Koffi went to Europe and he met Werrason, they became cool again and Werrason gave Koffi & his ex’wife a shoutout in Ntima Mboté. Koffi started to praise him often in interviews and would give him a shoutout in Bilan. But Werrason started to become mad the way Koffi was attacking JB very strongly and saying in private that he wanted to end the Wenge mythe. Despite that he gave his fans the order to support Koffi for his Stade des Martyrs-concert (in order to have a bigger crowd than JB) and welcome him at the airport. After that event Werra’s staff started to report more and more stories about Koffi talking bad about Werra, which mad their relationship once again becoming cold. Werra wasn’t also liking the way he was copying Maison Mere and came some shots in A La Que Leu Leu (llke "balobi moninga a tricher moninga te hein") and sending Bill to throw shots at Kerozene and Koffi in interviews (tata oyo suki naye ebandaka awa, for the way Koffi had braids starting in the middle of his head) and  the song Style Moomberg (Tata oyo atindaka moninga atambola na photocopie ya mokanda na nga). After it Werra accused Koffi for wanting to corrupt his dancers to stay in Europe. WMM-Fans also entered the war, claiming that Koffi copied Maison Mere’s intro of double zenith in the No Touch a Ling-videoclip. The war became official when Koffi openly attacked Werrason in an interview with the French diaspora radio Africa N1 and Werra reacting softly by saying that Koffi can’t produce the stuff he does on stage. After it Koffi tried to lure Ferre, JDT and Bill info Quartier Latin by offering money, but they all refused. Then when the Les Marquis was made, Koffi came proud on tv and said “sikoyo toko tala soki ako sala lisusu nini” and Werra with his staff being furious, accusing Koffi being behind the creation of Le Marquis. Bill would refer to it in the song Trshison “vous accuser Mopao eeh c’est la trahison". After that Koffi would reconcile again with Werrason during Maïsha Parc, Werra inviting him at La Zamba Playa and some weeks later at LSC. But the Peace wouldn’t last long, because Werrason, his staff and fans would declare war when Ferre Gola joined Quartier Latin. With both camps firings shots, the most coming from QL’s side. Koffi then ridiculizing Werrason often in the media for the fact that can’t sing but calls himself formateur, that Werra bought his when he was very old and that he never comes to the Maïsha meetings, because he has to pray with frère Patrice. Koffi tried to lure Flamme Kapaya into Quartier Latin by offering money, a house in Bandal and a new car, Flamme almost accepted the offer. But when the affair was known the press, Flamme ran away, getting already threats from Maison Mere fans. In the same period Werra recruited Brigade & Patience, Koffi then becoming mad and saying in private that he would buy a gun to kill for fact that he recruited Patience who was more than a dancer (Ferre wanted said that he would talk about it in 2ème soin who never came) and that he would put his money to finish Maison Mere. Koffi tried to lure Kakol, Eboa Lotin, J3 and Héritier in Quartier Latin but it all didn’t work. He even kidnapped spokemen King Tekila to convince him to get them into QL, but it didn’t work. After that Werrason and Koffi again reconciled with each other and they planned a fara-fara concert on the same stage at Elysee Montmarte, but the event got cancelled after that Werra staff suspected Koffi for wanting to plan something nasty against Koffi and the war restarting again and both camps firings shots until Wemba’s death and many stuff happening behind the scenes.

Eboa Lotin is slapping himself for not taking that offer. But why do so much Maison Mere Members (who were unpaid) rejected Koffi's offer knowing he would give those cars and those money to them? I mean people now might say yesit is Maison Mere they had better chance going solo than join Koffi and be successful but at the time no one would know if a solo career would go well so it was brave but also stupid to stay with Werrra by those Maison Mere members

So Koffi only had beef with JB Mpiana for helping Werra during the split? Or at least it seemed like the catalyst for the feud

archos #20 on: May 21, 2020, 00:02

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yeah a decent part of it is that,then when koffi became cool  with jb he tried to over do the thing to hurt werra while behind the scenes jb and werra were getting back to their normal relationship an the fact that jb and werra started to show clearly that the public relationship was also changeing it weakened the jb koffi friendship before other things stepped in,and it took another dimension with that papa wemba video after their "reconciliation" with koffi
even the werra to koffi concert which did not happen last minute was because of solidarity with jb and werra preferring a distant relationship with koffi over "fear" of his "game attitude"
if people paid close attention to some of the koffi interviews of recent months and last two years he tried to several times make subtle hints to werra that he is not anymore into the "game attitude" where he has to united with x against y then twist,then do this or that to hurt x or y so werra should approach him,they are the only high profile "good relationship" who are never seen together

Mfumu Vata #21 on: May 21, 2020, 00:13

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JB was mad about Koffi supporting Werrason openly, but they hadn’t beef. They met each other at Kora Awards 1998 and talked about that. The beef started when Koffi was mad that JB bought the same car as him in Paris, so he sended those zoulou-gangsters to burn JB’s car, which created alot polemic. Koffi hadn’t problems with Miette Shegue & Nono Diamant joining BCBG both leaving Quaritier Latin for private reasons. Miette for example left because Depitcho who was her husband used to beat her at home and they were always fighting during rehearsals. After JB’s Zenith, Koffi sended his musicians to mock JB about not being able to sell Zenith out. He also sended his musicians to attack JB, after JB’s concert at Stade des Martyrs, giving JF Ifongé the same clothes JB wear at Stade des Martyrs. He would give those clothes also to CNN for te Attentat-videoclip, just to humiliate JB. When Koffi went on tour for Bercy it was a little bit quit. Then when Koffi returned the war restarted, when they accused him for wanting to steal Kilimandjaro & Ali Mbonda. Blaise Élément, Mosaka & Roger Ngandu who were in Kinshasa started to insult Koffi strongly on tv and Kisindjora & Zobozi replying back. With Jb & Koffi getting a 7 months ban on tv, but it got lifted quickly. Then  when JB was about to perform at Bercy, they started to attack him and after the concert Koffi went to mock JB’s Bercy during Zacle’s interview. Something that made BCBG furious, BCBG replied back and QL reacting with that moment getting released on VHS as « Les Allies contre Ben Laden ». After it Champion & Mamale were recruited by JB and Koffi on his turn recruiting Monica Celeste & Titina Al Capone. JB Mpiana then announced the album title "Anti Terroriste" (it would later become Anti Terro) to refer to the conflict (Koffi would react years later with the title Monde Arabe). Things would get worse when JB performed at Stade des Martyrs and his fans went to beat Koffi’s mother after the concert. 2002, 2003 & 2004 would be full with incidents. Then in 2004 they reconciled and became really close when Maïssa Parc was made and both guys becoming best friends until 2012 (chilling together, giving shoutouts in their albums, etc).
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masatomo #22 on: May 21, 2020, 01:51

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JB was mad about Koffi supporting Werrason openly, but they hadn’t beef. They met each other at Kora Awards 1998 and talked about that. The beef started when Koffi was mad that JB bought the same car as him in Paris, so he sended those zoulou-gangsters to burn JB’s car, which created alot polemic. Koffi hadn’t problems with Miette Shegue & Nono Diamant joining BCBG both leaving Quaritier Latin for private reasons. Miette for example left because Depitcho who was her husband used to beat her at home and they were always fighting during rehearsals. After JB’s Zenith, Koffi sended his musicians to mock JB about not being able to sell Zenith out. He also sended his musicians to attack JB, after JB’s concert at Stade des Martyrs, giving JF Ifongé the same clothes JB wear at Stade des Martyrs. He would give those clothes also to CNN for te Attentat-videoclip, just to humiliate JB. When Koffi went on tour for Bercy it was a little bit quit. Then when Koffi returned the war restarted, when they accused him for wanting to steal Kilimandjaro & Ali Mbonda. Blaise Élément, Mosaka & Roger Ngandu who were in Kinshasa started to insult Koffi strongly on tv and Kisindjora & Zobozi replying back. With Jb & Koffi getting a 7 months ban on tv, but it got lifted quickly. Then  when JB was about to perform at Bercy, they started to attack him and after the concert Koffi went to mock JB’s Bercy during Zacle’s interview. Something that made BCBG furious, BCBG replied back and QL reacting with that moment getting released on VHS as « Les Allies contre Ben Laden ». After it Champion & Mamale were recruited by JB and Koffi on his turn recruiting Monica Celeste & Titina Al Capone. JB Mpiana then announced the album title "Anti Terroriste" (it would later become Anti Terro) to refer to the conflict (Koffi would react years later with the title Monde Arabe). Things would get worse when JB performed at Stade des Martyrs and his fans went to beat Koffi’s mother after the concert. 2002, 2003 & 2004 would be full with incidents. Then in 2004 they reconciled and became really close when Maïssa Parc was made and both guys becoming best friends until 2012 (chilling together, giving shoutouts in their albums, etc).

JB's fans went to beat Koffi's mother for real ??? Wtf ??? 

archos #23 on: May 21, 2020, 02:36

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 not real beat like injuring her super seriously but some crazy fans of then when to threaten her very hard and some touched her which jb was not agreeing with at all,he sent his guys to apologize to her and later sent her a message
that's part of when he started to fear the power of fans,which years later the generation conflict completely nailed and he took big distance from his fans fearing that crazy things they could do would be associated to him
which is why even today with his album thing he says fans who are angry and vocal are not his true fans,because after seeing extreme passion he has been trying his best to turn his fans into opposite too clean and obeying blindly to him

CM PRINCE #24 on: May 21, 2020, 02:44

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which is why even today with his album thing he says fans who are angry and vocal are not his true fans,because after seeing extreme passion he has been trying his best to turn his fans into opposite too clean and obeying blindly to him
This man is insane. 

congo-243 #25 on: May 21, 2020, 04:56

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which is why even today with his album thing he says fans who are angry and vocal are not his true fans,because after seeing extreme passion he has been trying his best to turn his fans into opposite too clean and obeying blindly to him
This man is insane.
What a lame excuse

shamala #26 on: May 21, 2020, 05:16

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JB's fans went to beat Koffi's mother for real ??? Wtf ???

Waah!!! That's over the top for these fanatics
PORTE-PAROLE NON OFFICIEL DE JB MPIANA ET WENGE BCBG.

jeantwatwa #27 on: May 21, 2020, 11:07

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Marie Paul and Kofi Olomide, helped Werra during the separation of Wenge, with one clear motive, to weaken  Jb Mpiana who at the time was riding high with the success of Feux D Amour. They wanted to have two weakened Wenge. However to their surprise just like COVID 19 has mutated and start to infect human, Werrason became too Big and a threat to their Domination and they had to find a way to contain him. And the spelled the end of Marie Paul, it was now all about Werra. in the early 2000s the completion was now between Werra and Kofi.

 ;D ;D ;D

archos #28 on: May 21, 2020, 12:12

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JB's fans went to beat Koffi's mother for real ??? Wtf ???

Waah!!! That's over the top for these fanatics

bro people died over those years of rivalry and not 1 2 3 4 5 or even 10 more than that,i personally know a guy who was taunted hard by his wife who was a maison mere fan about the first jb martyrs which was stopped prematurely by rain and he could not take it and hit her hard with those  big woods  people use to make fufu and she died  and he went himself to police and  spent years in  prison and he is now a pastor
even kibens when fans wanted clearout got his house burned while he was having a concert with bcbg
there was fights between musicians themselves and between fans of groups every week almost

Mfumu Vata #29 on: May 21, 2020, 12:37

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the jb vs werra war was something else. Alot of people died for nothing and many people stayed with ugly scars, some even became paralysed. I´ve never seen a rivalery like that in Congolese music. It wasn´t normal anymore how people got divorced or were fighting just over JB & Werra.