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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: JV “Gladiator” on June 23, 2018, 12:21

Title: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on June 23, 2018, 12:21
This guy and his staff are one of the most unprofessional people I have seen. Time and time again they will announce something and give date but not deliver...same goes with albums, it started off being a group album but in the last interview I saw, he said he will also add a song and only some members will get songs. Now this, premier soin to premier class then probably won’t come out and continue to troll like JB.


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Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: archos on June 23, 2018, 13:26
 he announced on congolese tv that he changed title to avoid people thinking he is only about to diss koffi like with premier soin interview with carine
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on June 23, 2018, 13:46
Then he should of changed the name to something completely different and tell Marchouse to not mention Koffi in a negative way whatsoever when he does his interview rounds
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: CM PRINCE on June 23, 2018, 15:51
Then he should of changed the name to something completely different and tell Marchouse to not mention Koffi in a negative way whatsoever when he does his interview rounds
Yeah exactly
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Jdog on June 24, 2018, 07:41
I've been hearing in interviews that that some videos from QQJD will come out this day too. As far as I know Guy Digital, Awulu, Nicolas, Mabuma, Ya Mado, Chico, Vibration and Djanny have confirmed  songs on the new group album and Ferre will add a song or two as well.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on June 24, 2018, 08:15
Is Echappe still in the band?
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Jdog on June 24, 2018, 08:21
Is Echappe still in the band?
Guy was asked that in an interview and he said as far as he know he's still in the group.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Ken Bilele on June 25, 2018, 12:03
Then he should of changed the name to something completely different and tell Marchouse to not mention Koffi in a negative way whatsoever when he does his interview rounds

JV must be wearing white in this comment. Thumps up for being a constructive follower.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Manzambi94 on June 25, 2018, 12:59

Then he should of changed the name to something completely different and tell Marchouse to not mention Koffi in a negative way whatsoever when he does his interview rounds

JV must be wearing white in this comment. Thumps up for being a constructive follower.

Yes JV unlike someone (no need to make names) it is someone who analyze things seriously and then take a position over Ferre despite being his fan, I think you should ask Archos to put you in contact with Ferre, because I think also that Ferre really needs to change strategy for making proper things, it is clear that he doesn't follow the promotion itself but he should do that, and then the fact he has someone like Marchouse who should be only a guitarist doesn't help him either
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on June 25, 2018, 13:55
Some fans don’t help their artists....you can’t be praising them like God even when they do wrong or going the wrong direction with their music...these musicians are surrounded by too many yes mans
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Ken Bilele on June 25, 2018, 14:37
Some fans don’t help their artists....you can’t be praising them like God even when they do wrong or going the wrong direction with their music...these musicians are surrounded by too many yes mans

You are right man. If only we could give carrot and stick!! perhaps there could be a difference.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: archos on June 25, 2018, 14:45
 Exactly JV thats sad ima reveal something today,like i often said in the past i wanted to manage a group its like something i feel deep inside since i was a kid and i get ideas of marketing or strategy for various groups  sometimes when watching them and recently i got ideas for like 4 groups and  i approached them to give those ideas,those "closer around" made sure  to block everything  and gossip on my name to maintain their position except one where the leader himself said you are right i'll try this and that
for example i advised one group to ignore their so called rival and focus on themselves and getting the best out of their leader they said i am a "nkadia" who does not understand that in music you have to constantly attack the rival and belittle whatever he does
its like they like that mess around their artists so that they can eat while they could still eat with more organization around,maybe even better
whats worse now in that mess is that  leaders have their staffs,staffs have their journalists contributing to that mess in hope of whatever advantage which they wont fully get anyway,and then fans who encourage those journalists and those staffs to continue operating like that and the leader who sees it like "yay i got people bowing for me, i am a king i am star"

Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Congolitude on June 25, 2018, 16:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt8H0yuY5ww
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Congolitude on June 25, 2018, 16:31
if only Ferré often read our forum or this thread, overnight it would have changed and it would be more powerful
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: POLE POSTION on June 25, 2018, 18:17
Kie kie here they go internet music expert of congovibes telling Ferre how to run his band and when he says this has to be done as if they contribute a dine to him kie kie it surprises me this forum if anything to do with Fally we get excuses after excuses but the expert find faults with Ferre kie kie luckly Ferre has fans who understand and appreciate the guy.
 Ferre has released a 33 songs album with hits and they are preparing the release of 4 video clips plus the generique as many fans and the likes of Machouse want their songs released on video which costs money and Ferre has not disappointed brilliant videos with no producer all coming out his own pocket but you get people who think they are smart to run a music band but would not be able to run even market stall kie kie

If you cannot wait for his projects you can go and follow Mr international with all his kosa leka and leave Ferre alone kie kie kie Congo vibes music experts
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on June 25, 2018, 18:49
Kie kie here they go internet music expert of congovibes telling Ferre how to run his band and when he says this has to be done as if they contribute a dine to him kie kie it surprises me this forum if anything to do with Fally we get excuses after excuses but the expert find faults with Ferre kie kie luckly Ferre has fans who understand and appreciate the guy.
 Ferre has released a 33 songs album with hits and they are preparing the release of 4 video clips plus the generique as many fans and the likes of Machouse want their songs released on video which costs money and Ferre has not disappointed brilliant videos with no producer all coming out his own pocket but you get people who think they are smart to run a music band but would not be able to run even market stall kie kie

If you cannot wait for his projects you can go and follow Mr international with all his kosa leka and leave Ferre alone kie kie kie Congo vibes music experts

I’m not surprised by your delusional comment...I don’t even know what to say..dude you can lie to yourself all you want but that mr international is way ahead of Ferre when it comes to marketing himself and exploring outside his comfort zone. As of right now you can’t compare them, mr international is ahead in every department and that’s a fact but you keep convincing yourself Ferre is better and doing the right things.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: POLE POSTION on June 25, 2018, 19:04
You have just confirm what I have wrote being exposed, playing lots of concert etc... does not mean the artist is making money like I said go follow mr international with kosa leka let Ferre do his thing that is why he has the best album, the best group and true fans who do not need lies to make himself bigger than he is.
Mokolo boko yeba eza lelo te kie kie kie

Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Manzambi94 on June 25, 2018, 19:44
Kie kie here they go internet music expert of congovibes telling Ferre how to run his band and when he says this has to be done as if they contribute a dine to him kie kie it surprises me this forum if anything to do with Fally we get excuses after excuses but the expert find faults with Ferre kie kie luckly Ferre has fans who understand and appreciate the guy.
 Ferre has released a 33 songs album with hits and they are preparing the release of 4 video clips plus the generique as many fans and the likes of Machouse want their songs released on video which costs money and Ferre has not disappointed brilliant videos with no producer all coming out his own pocket but you get people who think they are smart to run a music band but would not be able to run even market stall kie kie

If you cannot wait for his projects you can go and follow Mr international with all his kosa leka and leave Ferre alone kie kie kie Congo vibes music experts
POLE POSITION actually Fally and JB are the one who get more criticism, how many threads goes on and on with 3/4 pages of angry people towards JB? And for Fally maybe only mrvibes was happy with the album the rest of the forum said it was lure garbage, I don't know why you are so defensive, if we criticize someone it is for their best, for example Werra had a lot of criticism after Ingeta and that fueled him to release 7 Hours the same with Ferre who mad QQJD after all the hate he had, the problem with Ferre as I have always said is that he should manage his image in his first place and forbid Marchouse to answer provocations, for example Ferre never made a single generique by himself always giving it to other, and if you check in the history of Ndombolo a lot of the generique who had a lot of success were with the leader singing, I mean Selfie, Original, Zenga Luketo (even though is not generique) had success because you are the leader, you are the guy who puts money, you are the guy who have the war, this is why they go so good, I mean Bercy, Ruth Nzele, even Kasangidi, Diego, and so on can make good generique but you cannot give them the full responsibility
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: POLE POSTION on June 25, 2018, 20:21
Manzambi94 How you guys mention Marchouse when Ferre is the only artist in Congo who has no journalist, youtuber who will defend him cause he does not like that and he knows he has strong individuals in his band even listening to Ilunga the message get across.

you talking about generique which had success because the band leader had a voice on it kie kie we will learn on this forum. Did you hear Jb on ndombolo? Did you hear Koffi on Loi? The longest successful generique of 21century Vimba did you Nioka Longo?

Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Congolitude on June 25, 2018, 20:47
Kie kie here they go internet music expert of congovibes telling Ferre how to run his band and when he says this has to be done as if they contribute a dine to him kie kie it surprises me this forum if anything to do with Fally we get excuses after excuses but the expert find faults with Ferre kie kie luckly Ferre has fans who understand and appreciate the guy.
 Ferre has released a 33 songs album with hits and they are preparing the release of 4 video clips plus the generique as many fans and the likes of Machouse want their songs released on video which costs money and Ferre has not disappointed brilliant videos with no producer all coming out his own pocket but you get people who think they are smart to run a music band but would not be able to run even market stall kie kie

If you cannot wait for his projects you can go and follow Mr international with all his kosa leka and leave Ferre alone kie kie kie Congo vibes music experts

Bro let's be realistic, when a musician makes shit, no matter who he is, it is said. The problem with Ferré is that he is very poorly surrounded and this does not allow him to fully exploit his potential. How do you explain Ferré's spokesperson is Marchouse? It reflects a very bad image of his leader and the group because he is very impolite towards the other leaders whereas he is supposed to be a simple guitarist and artistic director (moreover Ferré encourages him to do this kind of things as he l said in the interview "Premier soin" with Carine Mokonzi). Which contract, the management team of Ferré wins him? An artist of the size of Ferré should have concerts all over Africa and every month.

Ferré has released an album of 33 songs but see how the promotion is very weak. I am very fan of QQJD but we must recognize that the promotion is crap especially that it is a very successful album (except the generic ones).

The promotion and the artistic image of Ferré is very very badly managed and you his fans know it but you do not want to recognize it because you know that it is not at all a good thing for your artist. Ferré accumulates so much that we could make a 10-page thread.

It's good to be a fan and support it but learn to recognize the mistakes and flaws of your artists. It's the fans like you who dont make Ferré advance because you think that everything he does is good while there is also a lot of mistakes to correct.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Manzambi94 on June 25, 2018, 20:52
Manzambi94 How you guys mention Marchouse when Ferre is the only artist in Congo who has no journalist, youtuber who will defend him cause he does not like that and he knows he has strong individuals in his band even listening to Ilunga the message get across.

you talking about generique which had success because the band leader had a voice on it kie kie we will learn on this forum. Did you hear Jb on ndombolo? Did you hear Koffi on Loi? The longest successful generique of 21century Vimba did you Nioka Longo?
I am talking about modern day, Ferre, Fabro and many ex Wenge members use that technique who let people shine, but believe if I tell you that Fabro, Ferre and many others aren't heard a lot here in Europe, Fabregas doesn't make tours in Europe, neither Deplick, because the system changed, people don't even care anymore about the members of the group they only want the leader, Elok'Oyo got 40 million views, Zenga Luketo has been the most successful song of the album and what about Selfie of Koffi? Believe me if Ferre will do one generique on his own he  will overly shadow Fally with no problems.
We all know Ferre is a better singer, but it is a different world.
It is all about marketing now
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on June 25, 2018, 21:39
example of bad marketing management and appeal...what the hell is “Ferre Gola tv production” lol...jesus. I’m sure they can come up with something better....Again didn’t he say or his unprofessional staff said, that Ferre will not take the route of creating a record label and produce other artists like other are doing...ermm correct me if I’m wrong, what’s this?




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Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Manzambi94 on June 25, 2018, 22:35
example of bad marketing management and appeal...what the hell is “Ferre Gola tv production” lol...jesus. I’m sure they can come up with something better....Again didn’t he say or his unprofessional staff said, that Ferre will not take the route of creating a record label and produce other artists like other are doing...ermm correct me if I’m wrong, what’s this?

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No Sponsorized post on Instagram, no poster, no , just plain video, no wait for desire, and if he said he wouldn't help other artist ye why he would do it, really Ferre needs to take control he is wasting his potential, he should be the next Papa Wemba or Emeneya in terms of success but his staff keep making him look like a street artist

Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: archos on June 25, 2018, 22:40
example of bad marketing management and appeal...what the hell is “Ferre Gola tv production” lol...jesus. I’m sure they can come up with something better....Again didn’t he say or his unprofessional staff said, that Ferre will not take the route of creating a record label and produce other artists like other are doing...ermm correct me if I’m wrong, what’s this?




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hervé needs to stop saying never,so far almost everything he said never to he did afterwards or kind of did,then you'll see the passionate fally fans come again like "ngingo ekangi ye,mutu ya diamba bla blabla"
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: CM PRINCE on June 25, 2018, 23:53
The way I see it ferres also at a crucial stage where his ego can kill him the fact that he's not known as much as fally and maybe fabregas abroad is getting ridiculous he's just gonna be known as a Kinshasa based artist which isn't what I expected from him his charisma and public appearance is boring I hate to say it but he'll always be in fallys shadow marketing wise I hate that I'm saying It's true more people know fally and fabregas (only cause of ya mado) since ferre has failed to make a global impact song/generique which is crucial since he's obsessed with making rhumba which isn't good at all too much rhumba is killing him he needs to stop and the fact that he keeps saying he'll never do this and that and ends up doing it makes him look more like a fool I remember emo was saying something like this a few years ago but he kept being labelled a hater and most of what he was saying is coming to life
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: mvulusi96 on June 26, 2018, 00:27
Hahahaha Ferre Gola is far and far more popular in Africa than Fabregas. Ferre Gola is respected everywhere for his Rumba-style (Ivory Coast, Kenya, Tanzania, Cameroun, Centrafrique, etc.). Did you forget how much impact Tchekele Pete had in France and the Francophone part of Africa ? But yeah about the marketing is true. In 2012 in was a head Fally and in 2013 he was about to pass him after that Fally released Power, but he missed that occassion with Werrason then starting to steal his musicians and him more being focused in his beef against Werrason. With Charles Tabu becoming his manager after that David Monsoh dumped him for Heritier, I thought that he was about to bounce back, but didn't really happened. I heard that Charles isn't his manager anymore since 2 years or something like that. But you know in the Congolese music-scene you never know. Fally is already old. Is 40 now and I don't that he will do that cross-overmusic long, making featerings with guys born in 92, 93, 94, 95 & 96 and Congolese people are people who forget quickly. If one rumba-album of Fally flops and Ferre makes a hit-album, then they will forget quickly about his trophees and featerings and switching the roles. We all saw how the roles of Wemba & Koffi switched back in 1998.

What is the problem with Heritier ? I saw him sending Charly Mpaka attacking Ferre, just because he called Heritier petit which wasn't in a bad way. The same Heritier attacked also Fally for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AapbSwYm1HI&t=317s

Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: CM PRINCE on June 26, 2018, 00:37
Hahahaha Ferre Gola is far and far more popular in Africa than Fabregas. Ferre Gola is respected everywhere for his Rumba-style (Ivory Coast, Kenya, Tanzania, Cameroun, Centrafrique, etc.). Did you forget how much impact Tchekele Pete had in France and the Francophone part of Africa ? But yeah about the marketing is true. In 2012 in was a head Fally and in 2013 he was about to pass him after that Fally released Power, but he missed that occassion with Werrason then starting to steal his musicians and him more being focused in his beef against Werrason. With Charles Tabu becoming his manager after that David Monsoh dumped him for Heritier, I thought that he was about to bounce back, but didn't really happened. I heard that Charles isn't his manager anymore since 2 years or something like that. But you know in the Congolese music-scene you never know. Fally is already old. Is 40 now and I don't that he will do that cross-overmusic long, making featerings with guys born in 92, 93, 94, 95 & 96 and Congolese people are people who forget quickly. If one rumba-album of Fally flops and Ferre makes a hit-album, then they will forget quickly about his trophees and featerings and switching the roles. We all saw how the roles of Wemba & Koffi switched back in 1998.

What is the problem with Heritier ? I saw him sending Charly Mpaka attacking Ferre, just because he called Heritier petit which wasn't in a bad way. The same Heritier attacked also Fally for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AapbSwYm1HI&t=317s
I'm talking about abroad I mean that non Congolese people dance more to mascara than anything ferre has put out that's all obviously fabregas is no where near ferre

Ferre just needs to stop calling people petit he did it with fally... brigade and heritier and it went left for him with constant attacks
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: archos on June 26, 2018, 00:42
 like its the usual childish issues of our musicians,ferre talked a bit bad of ted tenday when asked about him, i cant totally remember whats happened but it was something like he was saying he is working on another album and mentioned people who he would be doing songs for  and  at some point journalist mentioned ten tenday and ferre reacted  defensive and with something like koyebisa nga ba kombo ya batu mosusu te and belittled ted a bit and said "wana mutu ya niveau ya petit na biso heritier,ya niveau na nga te" which is why mpaka answered both to petit and the belittling of ted  while ted has crazy support for la team a bit like cardozo in bcbg in his prime years of business
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on June 26, 2018, 07:48
like its the usual childish issues of our musicians,ferre talked a bit bad of ted tenday when asked about him, i cant totally remember whats happened but it was something like he was saying he is working on another album and mentioned people who he would be doing songs for  and  at some point journalist mentioned ten tenday and ferre reacted  defensive and with something like koyebisa nga ba kombo ya batu mosusu te and belittled ted a bit and said "wana mutu ya niveau ya petit na biso heritier,ya niveau na nga te" which is why mpaka answered both to petit and the belittling of ted  while ted has crazy support for la team a bit like cardozo in bcbg in his prime years of business

Ferre has that short man syndrome, like to call people petit to feel big...there was no need for that. He needs to stop smoking whatever he smokes before interviews and be aware of what he says and how it might came out or sound to others
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Manzambi94 on June 26, 2018, 11:47

Actually Ferre did some great work when he got onto making his own just look at how excellent is in the first part of Seben where he does traditional singing before the seben.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wByg4omA5jk

Actually the Seben video it is a great one (I am on my phone so I can’t see  the exact minute) there are some very great parts and the choreography is spot on, especially when the guy spins on earth by using his hand, Geez is phenomenal BUT, who knows in Italy, France and so on that the Seben video is out?
I was with my friends this Sunday and my friend were like “Where did Werra gone” not knowing he released 7 Jours few months ago and the same for Ferre music now it is all about marketing and money and if you have money but have a bad marketing like Ferre does you will die musically, the same things we are saying for Ferre we can say for JB, I mean when Je Ne Te Calcule Pas was out noone knew, my friend said “JB asila” which means that JB is over not knowing he have released Je Ne Te Calcule Pas, African people and Congolese especially don’t really know how to market themselves abroad unlike Fally or Papa Wemba and Koffi
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: mvulusi96 on June 26, 2018, 14:08
Everbody knows about that video , it's the generique that brought Ferre back on the map, after that Derangement flopped with people starting to attack Ferre "mutu oyo a derangaka na classe azuaka te, etc.'. Seben was number 1 on Trace Africa for some weeks. I remember Fally's fans saying that he copied Fally's Original-concept of 4 minutes which came out the previous year and mocking Ferre's fans of celebrating their 1 million views.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on July 01, 2018, 01:38
Exactly, he didn’t deliver like he said but Robinio did...troll

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Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Matebu on July 01, 2018, 01:48
Exactly, he didn’t deliver like he said but Robinio did...troll

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I hate when artists put a date & time for new albums but ends up being late. It should be out, but nowhere to be seen. Pro-Ferre Youtube pages are dead silent. There's levels to this.... that's something he needs to understands, as it's a recurring theme.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on July 01, 2018, 02:09
He always does this, never keeps up to his words.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: CM PRINCE on July 01, 2018, 02:29
JV you called it right on my brother
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Jdog on July 01, 2018, 06:24
Exactly, he didn’t deliver like he said but Robinio did...troll

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SMH, again Ferre doesn't live up to his word and gives no reason. Very bad marketing, that's a big reason why Fally is ahead of him.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: Manzambi94 on July 01, 2018, 10:55
So he didn't release the video of her protégé :'( I should be mad but I am disappointed for him, he is like JB too much trust on the hand of people who do not deserve it.
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on July 01, 2018, 12:37
So he didn't release the video of her protégé :'( I should be mad but I am disappointed for him, he is like JB too much trust on the hand of people who do not deserve it.

Yep, that too
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: JV “Gladiator” on July 01, 2018, 14:25
So he didn't release the video of her protégé :'( I should be mad but I am disappointed for him, he is like JB too much trust on the hand of people who do not deserve it.

There’s your answer why they didn’t release, lol why announce and make a poster with a date and time..smh

From 11:00
https://youtu.be/wBpMPLlQ22M
Title: Re: This troll again....
Post by: BR on July 01, 2018, 17:34
Today's society. They want your downfall but will still criticise anything they feel you are doing bad but will talk to ask you mend it. If you stick yourself to a single musician you'll start praising his wealth and family whether he/she makes shit music