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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: PCGY KASTELLO on September 07, 2017, 23:59

Title: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: PCGY KASTELLO on September 07, 2017, 23:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FCEq8C-jz0&t=4701s

I couldnt hold it but to pay tribute to this guy....listen to how he changes the licks on 1:31:15. complimented by Celeo crie.. Simply Owesome

 "Kapaya simply the best!"
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Matebu on September 08, 2017, 02:33
If Bill and Flamme were to link up permanently and combine bands, they'd be the scariest sebene factory in Kinshasa
https://youtu.be/_2OSxE8AW-I
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Matebu on September 08, 2017, 02:52
It's hard to not post his fire. WMM reunion Flamme/Bill Clinton/Brigade/Héritier/Werrason/Celeo and of course the wizardry of ingénieur JP Kys
https://youtu.be/zpmN1VqcVDA

12/10, except for Bill saying he's 3x better than Luambo at the very end  :o
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: PCGY KASTELLO on September 08, 2017, 13:35
I didn't know the ex WMM members and the igwe himself featured on track together. Not forgetting Eboa lotin
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Matebu on September 08, 2017, 15:28
I didn't know the ex WMM members and the igwe himself featured on track together. Not forgetting Eboa lotin

Yea, I'm surprised the forum barely acknowledged it when it first came out. Always threads asking for Bill or Flamme to reunite with Werra
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: archos on September 08, 2017, 17:23
actually flamme "played people" this was supposed to be his temp present song and he had saved it knowing he was leaving while maison mere had taken it off  so he mixed the work done in europe at marcadet with the work done in ndiaye when he recorded with that guitar coming out of a coffin
lol by the way the guy should really open  up of some stuff he did in his "pastor talk" not just that london thing which is technically nothing just a random experience
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: PCGY KASTELLO on September 08, 2017, 17:23
I didn't know the ex WMM members and the igwe himself featured on track together. Not forgetting Eboa lotin

Yea, I'm surprised the forum barely acknowledged it when it first came out. Always threads asking for Bill or Flamme to reunite with Werra
I also don't understand how this collaboration alluded the discussion on this forum. Coz we have been looking forward to a come together of these  guys
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Musicfan on September 09, 2017, 00:10
actually flamme "played people" this was supposed to be his temp present song and he had saved it knowing he was living while maison mere had taken it off  so he mixed the work done in europe at marcadet with the work done in ndiaye when he recorded with that guitar coming out of a coffin
lol by the way the guy should really open  up of some stuff he did in his "pastor talk" not just that london thing which is technically nothing just a random experience

Flamme Kapaya is extremely talented.  @achos what do mean by opening regarding what he did? Inquiry minds wants to know ;)
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Toolz on September 09, 2017, 01:27


Yea, I'm surprised the forum barely acknowledged it when it first came out. Always threads asking for Bill or Flamme to reunite with Werra
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I didn't quite get that,Matebu. What did you mean by the forum acknowledging Werra's reunion with some ex-WMM members?

Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: princesab on September 09, 2017, 04:35
actually............
lol by the way the guy should really open  up of some stuff he did in his "pastor talk" not just that london thing which is technically nothing just a random experience

Please translate the pastor temoignage talk and further state the london thing..
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Matebu on September 09, 2017, 05:21
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Yea, I'm surprised the forum barely acknowledged it when it first came out. Always threads asking for Bill or Flamme to reunite with Werra

I didn't quite get that,Matebu. What did you mean by the forum acknowledging Werra's reunion with some ex-WMM members?

When this album came out in 2015, there was no fanfare. That track is the biggest dream featuring for WMM fans. Then again, the album wasn't well promoted. And as we unfortunately know, you can have the greatest album content ever, but if you don't promote it properly, then it really doesn't matter.

I bet quite a few members or forum readers did not know about that track. Personally, it's the only post-2010 sebene song I rank higher than Werra's Kelvis Nkoyi or Alvarito's Rosendan
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Toolz on September 09, 2017, 08:44
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Yea, I'm surprised the forum barely acknowledged it when it first came out. Always threads asking for Bill or Flamme to reunite with Werra

I didn't quite get that,Matebu. What did you mean by the forum acknowledging Werra's reunion with some ex-WMM members?

When this album came out in 2015, there was no fanfare. That track is the biggest dream featuring for WMM fans. Then again, the album wasn't well promoted. And as we unfortunately know, you can have the greatest album content ever, but if you don't promote it properly, then it really doesn't matter.

I bet quite a few members or forum readers did not know about that track. Personally, it's the only post-2010 sebene song I rank higher than Werra's Kelvis Nkoyi or Alvarito's Rosendan
   

Oh ok@Matebu. I didn't know about the track until yesterday when it was posted here.
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: archos on September 09, 2017, 10:07
i mean that like many if not most artists flamme was also doing his share of mysterious/mystic stuff
for example the double head guitar he played with in those days he took it out of a coffin and he named it madame jacqueline which is a name i have been hearing in 95 per cent of videos of ex satanists who say its a goddess they worshipped for success
and the day of release of that album or in that period he was walking barefeet several times here in france in the winter to go to popular places like chateau rouge
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: mvulusi96 on September 09, 2017, 10:51
If Flamme was smart. He could have formed a band with his childhood friend Celeo, recruiting talented singers and reign over Kinshasa, like Felix Manuaku with his Grand Zaiko Wawa in the early '80s. Which had guys like Djudju-chet, Defao, Shekedan,  Baroza Bansimba, Djo Poster "Le Grand Muyaka, Shimita El Diego & Djeffard Lukombo.
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: princesab on September 09, 2017, 11:16
i mean that like many if not most artists flamme was also doing his share of mysterious/mystic stuff
for example the double head guitar he played with in those days he took it out of a coffin and he named it madame jacqueline which is a name i have been hearing in 95 per cent of videos of ex satanists who say its a goddess they worshipped for success
and the day of release of that album or in that period he was walking barefeet several times here in france in the winter to go to popular places like chateau rouge

I think something went really wrong
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Congomusiclover001 on September 10, 2017, 10:23
One fact that can't be taken away from him: All modern day congolese soloists want to play like him. Other than Fally and Ferre's solosits, all other soloist sound like Flamme. Kimbangu Solo, Alfred Solo, Arc en Ciel, now Sara Solo, and pretty much any soloist who went to WMMM must play like Flamme.  So yes, he brought something to the table. He has influenced Congo music in the Generiques and Sebene areas.
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: PCGY KASTELLO on September 10, 2017, 13:56
That song to me seems like a cut and paste..the part with Bill and Celeo was done separately
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: archos on September 10, 2017, 14:33
That song to me seems like a cut and paste..the part with Bill and Celeo was done separately

yes it is,the part with werra was done in europe with werra eboa and co plus brigade prince as atalakus,while the part with bill celeo in kinshasa when flamme left maison mere
he just played people to believe he had achieved the "impossible"
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: CM PRINCE on September 10, 2017, 16:28
That song to me seems like a cut and paste..the part with Bill and Celeo was done separately

yes it is,the part with werra was done in europe with werra eboa and co plus brigade prince as atalakus,while the part with bill celeo in kinshasa when flamme left maison mere
he just played people to believe he had achieved the "impossible"
Smart guy looool
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Matebu on September 10, 2017, 16:49
That song to me seems like a cut and paste..the part with Bill and Celeo was done separately

yes it is,the part with werra was done in europe with werra eboa and co plus brigade prince as atalakus,while the part with bill celeo in kinshasa when flamme left maison mere
he just played people to believe he had achieved the "impossible"
Smart guy looool

Indeed. All you can really say is "close enogh" because it was mixed very professionally
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Musicfan on September 11, 2017, 01:16
i mean that like many if not most artists flamme was also doing his share of mysterious/mystic stuff
for example the double head guitar he played with in those days he took it out of a coffin and he named it madame jacqueline which is a name i have been hearing in 95 per cent of videos of ex satanists who say its a goddess they worshipped for success
and the day of release of that album or in that period he was walking barefeet several times here in france in the winter to go to popular places like chateau rouge

Oh wow..
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: PCGY KASTELLO on September 11, 2017, 16:46
The song is a copy and paste... Bill and Celeo's part was done separately
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Matebu on September 11, 2017, 17:16
The song is a copy and paste... Bill and Celeo's part was done separately

I mean yeah, as it's been stated a few times in this thread. It's obvious when you listen closely
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 11, 2017, 18:52
I knew the track since long time but I never boosted because I thought the song was already posted in the forum since it was a dream song because basically is having old and new generation golden age of Wenge all togheter, and it is crazy because it is the only song of Wenge who have Werra , Heritier, Eboa, Celeo, Bill, Prince, Kapaya, Kakol all at once there is even a video which is Kapaya and the Sapeurs on two different sections but the video is not at the height of the music and surprisingly the album was a flop, mostly because Kapaya didn't make big boost about his departure and he is too much of a laid back guy to create buzz so he couldn't survive in Congolese Music Panorama and with the few money Werra  gave them throughout the years it was impossible for him making something (by the way guitarist are one of the many musicians who gets only paid by donors and got almost no money from the boss) and yea it is mixed differently but he is the only guy who managed to do it to bad he didn't promoted well because all the generique went out that year would have disappeared
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on September 12, 2017, 06:05
Those saying we did not discuss the Kapaya song featuring Bill,Celeo, Werra,Eboa and others, maybe you were not members of this  forum. We discussed that track which archos has rightly stated as what was meant to be Kapaya's song on the album Temps Present hence the difference in sound quality too.

We overwhelmingly concluded it was a cut and paste job where one half was recorded first and the second half later.
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Manzambi94 on September 13, 2017, 21:06
Those saying we did not discuss the Kapaya song featuring Bill,Celeo, Werra,Eboa and others, maybe you were not members of this  forum. We discussed that track which archos has rightly stated as what was meant to be Kapaya's song on the album Temps Present hence the difference in sound quality too.

We overwhelmingly concluded it was a cut and paste job where one half was recorded first and the second half later.
??? Why? Ye the mix between Werrason & Wenge and Bill and Celeo wasn't the best but the concept and the idea of reuniting all the Wenge is great
Title: Re: Tribute To Flamme
Post by: Matebu on September 13, 2017, 21:20
Those saying we did not discuss the Kapaya song featuring Bill,Celeo, Werra,Eboa and others, maybe you were not members of this  forum. We discussed that track which archos has rightly stated as what was meant to be Kapaya's song on the album Temps Present hence the difference in sound quality too.

We overwhelmingly concluded it was a cut and paste job where one half was recorded first and the second half later.
??? Why? Ye the mix between Werrason & Wenge and Bill and Celeo wasn't the best but the concept and the idea of reuniting all the Wenge is great

Yea, sometimes when you get too critical about a song and production it takes the pleasure away. I just enjoy it for what it is - the closest thing to a Wenge MM legends reunion this decade.