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lepadre on: October 10, 2018, 07:05

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archos #1 on: October 10, 2018, 18:06

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tutu explains that he was in several groups and one day there was a funeral in bandal,the brother of famous donor tshatsho mbala passed away and some people went to tell werra that there is a very good singer they can bring to him to replace manda chante
he went to wenge's "house" in bandal and they tested him and he remembers alain mpela was in the shower and shouted "wow who is that guy?"
aimelia was already around and when he was tested there was werra,adolphe,makaba  and later on they asked which song can he sing apart from manda's vocal and then he sang the song which became douglas ilumbe which was basically a song he was singing in promise musica with his friend alpatshino( alain mpela quickly mastered lyrics and asked tutu to give it to him so he can add it in wenge album once in europe and he'll bring him some gifts then alain makaba asked for it and released it to his name)
Then at the concert of funerals they started kalayi boeing  and aimelia started manda's part then it was his turn and he was a bit scared being the youngest of the group then but when he started he impressed more since his voice was closer to manda in terms of power) and he went home with titina and patient kusangila
The day after wenge had to perform at hotel invest,and he went with titina and patient who gave him clothes to wear and he was waiting for his turn
But wenge went to europe with aimelia and not him and when they returned,he figured out aimelia had really nailed his spot so on advice of wasenga kimpuni who could hear him do some animation after rehearsal he switched to atalaku role when the group was rehearsing at adolphe's house and when ekokota started and finished he joined in and people started liking it and at one concert people went so crazy the entrance gate could not resist
then he is asked about his suspension and confirms it came from wasenga asking for clothes at his return from pentagone studio but did not appreciate tutu telling him to wait a bit so he got long term suspension and he was hurt way more by what werra and mampata could think as they believed it while they welcomed him very well at home than the fact he had to be sidelined he knew it would not be eternal
and the suspension was not lifted easily because jb werra adolphe blaise makaba masela had very strong friendship and trust if somebody reported about you to them you were in trouble with them all
ado then asked him to talk about wenge split and he said alain makaba came from europe to tanzania where they had to perform
makaba was the artistic director werra financial director and in charge of discipline jb was the president which had an important word in controlling all that
and they were sharing the money mainly them 4 even though adolphe and blaise also had advantages and makaba and said at reunion that most of the simple employees were unhappy with their salaries and said he wanted to get that role of financial director and try to solve it
with werra they were getting each of them either maximum 200 dollars after touring and with makaba it became 400 each first and musicians were praising him and it hurt werra's ego then later on in kenya,and there the trouble got serious in the groupe,jb was eating on his own somewhere while the group ate at hotel,and when they were leaving kenya they got paid again some even neared 1000 dollars
werra called his lawyer(late maitre yalebe) and didier masela as he was furious to see the change of money sharing,and there was then the famous reunions at grand hotel
 werra and co made their plan,alain makaba also made his plan on his side and the reunion was very tense and current governor of kin andre kimbuta gave idea to give them 30000 dollars to cease fire and werra said no
the plan of werra and co was that didier masela as founder of the group would dismantle their hierarchy so that jb and makaba lose their roles as they thought jb sent makaba on mission while makaba came himself to do that the way he used his own money to avoid admins returning on their own after kin e bouger tour and didier masela said it clearly that he wants to dismantle their hierarchy knowing him and werra were protected by founder and co founder role and jb expressed his disagremment and stood up to go home and said leave me alone
and he says the camp of werra showed their plan too clearly and did not think there could be a counterattack and there started plan b of makaba who had phone numbers of all musicians already and he said if only werra accepted to let alain do that role for few months and then calmly reclaim it the split would not have happened but unfortunately he let his ego dominate and handled it very badly and even without that role he still would be in a pretty strong position being a co founder and in charge of discipline and the man at the forefront of the group's daily activity(while jb was more like a country president who talked or decided only when there was inmportant matter)
also during that reunion wasenga started shouting to werra "beat jb beat jb beat him" which is why werra stood to go towards jb
jb did not call anybody but most of them followed him because he was much more generous and nice to them and he is not telling the story to hurt anybody but just to inform people who have always been curious to hear what happened
jb already had his europe tour planned for feux de l'amour so they naturally followed him through makaba,jb was not even there when it all started,and when ferre who was down in the stairs approached them aimelia blocked him knowing if they remained only 2 tenorists he'd have much more space to sing than if ferre also is around with ferre's voice in the very last stages of maturing
christian mabanga,masela adolphe went with werra but werra wanted to go to canada but its his brother jonas mbese who was living there who told him to fight because he has two hands and two feets likes jb and mampata had a great contribution in how maison mere started
him caludji and ekokota went in bcbg so the other side had no atalaku werra tried to get him and alain mpela and they did hesitate a little bit as they were close to him but their choice was made
He is then asked about bill clinton and whether is true that bill gave him animation,and he says at that time people were calling him tutu caludji bill clinton and he had his staff of petits which he called staf bill clinton which had didier aka bill in(indeed i remember nsone and jb sometimes calling him like that in concert,or tutu caludji americano)
bill was then in groups like geneva musica and agwenta musica at the same time (and also lifaki in bandal) bill is like a little brother and he was even coming to his family house,and the only animation bill ever gave to him is the one he does at 56 47 and he changed it in wenge to werra's name,and before wenge split people were telling bill to join quartier latin but he stepped in to refuse as he felt wenge could split and anticipated the fact the side of werra would need bill as he was very talented and creative
 he is asked about werra claiming ndombolo belongs to him in an interview,and he says when they returned from pentagone,they were stunned with success of group kibinda nkoy which was starting to have similar signs of success than them wenge 4X4 and werra who he was closer to then told him "we gotta do something to counter them" and tutu told werra dont worry you'll see and after working with his private animation writers he came with ndombolo and one day he'll say what it means and he still did versions of ndombolo after 4X4 so werra should not pretend it was him who created because its not true
also koffi tried to lure him via wake up project to do ndombolo animation then keep him in quartier latin since he wanted him so much and later on when mboshi came for test koffi asked him tutu if he knew him and tutu said its his friend and he is very good
and ado asks about the story saying jb allegedly tried to poison werra,and he says when makaba took that financial role werra was very pissed and upset and when they are at hotel only him tutu and ali mbonda were going to see him often and ali mbonda came to his room and told him "werra says that we should create a story that jb and makba sent them to poison him" and he remembers one trip to ivory coast where refused to pay them and said instead he'd buy them ivorian traditional clothes so that  they create big buzz at their return and he says it was not a bad idea but they had grown up and had been looking after families now so they could not just look for buzz and having nothing to give family
and he ends saying if somebody felt offended he should forgive him but he just gave his share of the history
ado asks one last question about rumours of him having AIDS and he says if he was a nobody it would not exists and a lotof people who spread it are dying before him,so people should be careful,he will die when God decides




out of topic,funny coincidence there was 3 JB's and 3 blaise in wenge, jb mpiana,jb manda chante,jb aimelia, blaise bula, blaise tutu caludji,blaise seguin mignon

archos #2 on: October 10, 2018, 18:07

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sorry guys i posted it in the wrong topic it is for the INTERESTING TUTU CALUDJI thread

Nkosi #3 on: October 10, 2018, 19:02

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My only problem is surely we now don't care what happened decades ago. That's glory of the past and we want results from them now. No one is really hungry for such news and we have all accepted and moved on. If he is smart, he would keep quiet than start unnecessary polemic as he painted Werra all negative and JB all positive. Whether true or not, he should be old enough to know how supporters and people who surround Werra will react. He also knows the effect it will have on JB/ Werra relationship knowing Tutu is now in good books with JB. So, what does he lose if he just brushes the topic aside? We want albums from him and his former boss JB like Werra and his children are doing and not history lessons. We want music, music and music....let him spare us the polemic which is not needed. Ferre, Heriteir, Fabregas, Robinho, Deplick, Brigade, Lacoste, Bill Clinton, Kabose, Mulopwe.....are giving us music. Let Tutu focus on that other swinging from Europe to Kin, from petty europe session performances to rumours of rejoining BCBG and now to starting polemic which is clearly cooling down.

That's my take. I now want music and I'm not taking kindly any musician who is still buried in polemic of two decades ago.

archos #4 on: October 10, 2018, 19:21

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 Its a concept ado has started for weeks now with different ex wenge members  and people around wenge behind the scenes,he played the game too much indeed,but hopefully nothing will happen hopefully people will keep it in that context but i said the same thing to myself he should have realised he'll be viewed  as saying this or that because he is half back with jb,fingers crossed that it has no bad impact

Nkosi #5 on: October 11, 2018, 17:18

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Archos, I also hope it does not spark polemique. I'm really tired of the polemique..