Author Topic: 30 years since Franco Luambo Makiadi left us  (Read 430 times)

mvulusi96 on: October 12, 2019, 22:34

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(12 October 1989 - 12 October 2019)

Matebu #1 on: October 13, 2019, 03:09

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Wow, the day that shocked all of Africa and the diaspora. My the biggest legend ever continue to Rest In Peace

Manzambi94 #2 on: October 13, 2019, 11:31

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It is sad. For how he died and for how dirty Mobutu and many music members did him. He will be always remember and he is the reason why Guitar has so much importance in our music

mvulusi96 #3 on: October 13, 2019, 11:38

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Mobutu ??!! Mobutu was his best friend, Franco himself was a big MPR-fanatic and TPOK Jazz sponsored by Mobutu and the MPR even after his death. That’s why alot of artists weren’t liking Franco because he could do everything what he wanted since that he was protected and supported by Mobutu and the MPR. Its Mobutu who paid all his hospital-bills when he was very sick and made those National funeral and kept supporting Luambo’s family until 1997.

Manzambi94 #4 on: October 13, 2019, 11:46

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Mobutu ??!! Mobutu was his best friend, Franco himself was a big MPR-fanatic and TPOK Jazz sponsored by Mobutu and the MPR even after his death. That’s why alot of artists weren’t liking Franco because he could do everything what he wanted since that he was protected and supported by Mobutu and the MPR. Its Mobutu who paid all his hospital-bills when he was very sick and made those National funeral and kept supporting Luambo’s family until 1997.
He got jailed for the Jackie song and actually himand Mobutu fell out after all those songs Franco made for Mobutu campaigns

SLK97 #5 on: October 13, 2019, 13:17

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Franco is a musical legend who went too soon. He is sorely missed by us all.

mvulusi96 #6 on: October 13, 2019, 13:42

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Mobutu ??!! Mobutu was his best friend, Franco himself was a big MPR-fanatic and TPOK Jazz sponsored by Mobutu and the MPR even after his death. That’s why alot of artists weren’t liking Franco because he could do everything what he wanted since that he was protected and supported by Mobutu and the MPR. Its Mobutu who paid all his hospital-bills when he was very sick and made those National funeral and kept supporting Luambo’s family until 1997.
He got jailed for the Jackie song and actually himand Mobutu fell out after all those songs Franco made for Mobutu campaigns

It was not Mobutu who jailed Franco, it was Leon Kengo Wa Ndondo. Who was then in conflict with Franco over a woman of mixed races and who it then as the perfect occasion to jail him. That’s why Mobutu recorded the song Tailleur (aka Mokolo Tonga) as reaction when Mobutu dismissed him Attoerney General some years later. Then some times later he recorded Tres Faché when Mobutu put gave Kengo Wa Ndondo the post of Prime Minister.




 Franco and Mobutu were from 1967 after Luvumbu Ndoki until his death never in conflict. That story of Franco becoming against Mobutu before he died was created by his fanatics in Europe who were against Mobutu while Mobutu was paying his hospital bills and supporting him until he died. Thats why Franco’s family thanked Mobutu and MPR alot when they burried him. The same thing happened to Emeneya, when Emeneya died his fanactics who were against Kabila claimed that Emeneya became a combattant in Europe which was false because he was still in contact with politicians like Boshab, Muzito and Aubin Minaku, etc. Also claiming that he made the song Milonga Kwango of 1997 against Kabila’s regime while the song was already prepared in 1993 when Mobutu was still in power.

It was Tabu Ley who became against Mobutu from 1990 and went on exil there, which really killed his fame and career.
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litho #7 on: October 14, 2019, 00:07

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Mobutu ??!! Mobutu was his best friend, Franco himself was a big MPR-fanatic and TPOK Jazz sponsored by Mobutu and the MPR even after his death. That’s why alot of artists weren’t liking Franco because he could do everything what he wanted since that he was protected and supported by Mobutu and the MPR. Its Mobutu who paid all his hospital-bills when he was very sick and made those National funeral and kept supporting Luambo’s family until 1997.

That not truth, Franco used to be cold or hot depend of situation, like we say in Lingala "Mbeli ya minu mibale"

I dont know how to write it in English, let me say it in Lingala. Na 1985 le 24 Juin na N'sele fete ya ba pecheur, Franco azalaki invite pona koyemba avant discoure ya Mobutu ndenge kaka ezalaki kozala, kasi Franco alobaki boye tango ayembi deux chason akati abandi koloba boye " PAPA TOYEBI MALOBA OLOBAKA ESALAMAKA TE, SOKI OLOBI FUFU EKOKITA TALO LOBI APRES DISCOUR NAYO FUFU EKOMATA TALO, BA PNEUS YA SOTRAZ OLAKAKI BISO MBULA OYO ELEKI OKOMAKA KAKATE TOLINGI MBALA OYO SOKI OLOBI ESALEMA SOKI TE MBULA OYO EKOYA SOKI BABENGISI NGAI NAKOLOBELA YANGO" Tangu Franco azalaki koloba maloba nyoso wana, azalaki koloba yango nakoseka Franco azalaki bongo ata azali koloba likambo ya mabe azalaki toujour koseka.

Mobutu tango amati na podium pona asala discour naye, alobi boye " FRANCO MAKAMBO OLOBI NAYOKI YO, KASI PROBLEME TOZALI NA YANGO NA ZAIRE EZALI PROBLEME YA SUIVI, PRESIDENT AZALI MASICIEN TE, PRESIDENT YEMOKO AKOKI KOZALA PRESIDENT A MEME TEMPS PDG ET COTROLEUR, KASI NAYOKI YO MBALA OYO NAKOSALA TOUT BILOKO EMATA TE KASI EKITA. KASI MAKAMBU OYO OLOBI EZALI MAKAMBU OYO NGAI NA PREPARAKI TE PONA NALOBA"

Obosani tango Franco alobaki na emission KinKiese devant Kayumbi Beya ke, Mobutu a libere ba Mbwakem na Ba Tshisekedi pona babomi nabango mutu te, natango wana butu nioso bazalaki kobanga kotanga kombo ya ba 13 commisaire du peuple wana.

At time Franco can be cold at same time he can be hot, that why you see most people remember that side of Franco he was MPR like most Zairois if not all but, still say something if he found it wrong.
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litho #8 on: October 14, 2019, 00:20

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Mobutu ??!! Mobutu was his best friend, Franco himself was a big MPR-fanatic and TPOK Jazz sponsored by Mobutu and the MPR even after his death. That’s why alot of artists weren’t liking Franco because he could do everything what he wanted since that he was protected and supported by Mobutu and the MPR. Its Mobutu who paid all his hospital-bills when he was very sick and made those National funeral and kept supporting Luambo’s family until 1997.
He got jailed for the Jackie song and actually himand Mobutu fell out after all those songs Franco made for Mobutu campaigns

It was not Mobutu who jailed Franco, it was Leon Kengo Wa Ndondo. Who was then in conflict with Franco over a woman of mixed races and who it then as the perfect occasion to jail him. That’s why Mobutu recorded the song Tailleur (aka Mokolo Tonga) as reaction when Mobutu dismissed him Attoerney General some years later. Then some times later he recorded Tres Faché when Mobutu put gave Kengo Wa Ndondo the post of Prime Minister.




 Franco and Mobutu were from 1967 after Luvumbu Ndoki until his death never in conflict. That story of Franco becoming against Mobutu before he died was created by his fanatics in Europe who were against Mobutu while Mobutu was paying his hospital bills and supporting him until he died. Thats why Franco’s family thanked Mobutu and MPR alot when they burried him. The same thing happened to Emeneya, when Emeneya died his fanactics who were against Kabila claimed that Emeneya became a combattant in Europe which was false because he was still in contact with politicians like Boshab, Muzito and Aubin Minaku, etc. Also claiming that he made the song Milonga Kwango of 1997 against Kabila’s regime while the song was already prepared in 1993 when Mobutu was still in power.

It was Tabu Ley who became against Mobutu from 1990 and went on exil there, which really killed his fame and career.

Ask youself this question, can you call a president liar. Ass you can hear this song most attach was because of lie who lied to him, he called that person a liar. That why I say some time Franco can be "very cold"

litho #9 on: October 14, 2019, 00:26

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litho #10 on: October 14, 2019, 03:13

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It was Tabu Ley who became against Mobutu from 1990 and went on exil there, which really killed his fame and career.

I am sure you know this not true.

mvulusi96 #11 on: October 14, 2019, 22:55

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It was Tabu Ley who became against Mobutu from 1990 and went on exil there, which really killed his fame and career.

I am sure you know this not true.

Lol, everybody know that story. How can it not be true if  Tabu Ley himself talked about that when he came back in 1997 when LD Kabila took the power, made various interviews at French radios against Mobutu and that it is stated in his biography ? Lol, I wonder if you actually witnessed that era. Tabu Ley even made an album called Exil’Ley in 1993. In the song « La Glasse a Sonné » he attacked the Mobutu-régime strongly.



Also the regime of Kinshasa made a boycott against him since 1990 when he made a song against them. In an interview he made with Paulin Mukendi, Tabu Ley said that in Paris some guys said to him that they a picture for him (a man cutted in parts), saying that they would do that to him if he would return Kinshasa since that he attacked Mobutu.

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mvulusi96 #12 on: October 14, 2019, 23:03

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Mobutu ??!! Mobutu was his best friend, Franco himself was a big MPR-fanatic and TPOK Jazz sponsored by Mobutu and the MPR even after his death. That’s why alot of artists weren’t liking Franco because he could do everything what he wanted since that he was protected and supported by Mobutu and the MPR. Its Mobutu who paid all his hospital-bills when he was very sick and made those National funeral and kept supporting Luambo’s family until 1997.

That not truth, Franco used to be cold or hot depend of situation, like we say in Lingala "Mbeli ya minu mibale"

I dont know how to write it in English, let me say it in Lingala. Na 1985 le 24 Juin na N'sele fete ya ba pecheur, Franco azalaki invite pona koyemba avant discoure ya Mobutu ndenge kaka ezalaki kozala, kasi Franco alobaki boye tango ayembi deux chason akati abandi koloba boye " PAPA TOYEBI MALOBA OLOBAKA ESALAMAKA TE, SOKI OLOBI FUFU EKOKITA TALO LOBI APRES DISCOUR NAYO FUFU EKOMATA TALO, BA PNEUS YA SOTRAZ OLAKAKI BISO MBULA OYO ELEKI OKOMAKA KAKATE TOLINGI MBALA OYO SOKI OLOBI ESALEMA SOKI TE MBULA OYO EKOYA SOKI BABENGISI NGAI NAKOLOBELA YANGO" Tangu Franco azalaki koloba maloba nyoso wana, azalaki koloba yango nakoseka Franco azalaki bongo ata azali koloba likambo ya mabe azalaki toujour koseka.

Mobutu tango amati na podium pona asala discour naye, alobi boye " FRANCO MAKAMBO OLOBI NAYOKI YO, KASI PROBLEME TOZALI NA YANGO NA ZAIRE EZALI PROBLEME YA SUIVI, PRESIDENT AZALI MASICIEN TE, PRESIDENT YEMOKO AKOKI KOZALA PRESIDENT A MEME TEMPS PDG ET COTROLEUR, KASI NAYOKI YO MBALA OYO NAKOSALA TOUT BILOKO EMATA TE KASI EKITA. KASI MAKAMBU OYO OLOBI EZALI MAKAMBU OYO NGAI NA PREPARAKI TE PONA NALOBA"

Obosani tango Franco alobaki na emission KinKiese devant Kayumbi Beya ke, Mobutu a libere ba Mbwakem na Ba Tshisekedi pona babomi nabango mutu te, natango wana butu nioso bazalaki kobanga kotanga kombo ya ba 13 commisaire du peuple wana.

At time Franco can be cold at same time he can be hot, that why you see most people remember that side of Franco he was MPR like most Zairois if not all but, still say something if he found it wrong.

That was because he was Mobutu friend and agent of MPR since 1967 (I will not go in the details), otherwise they would have arrested like when he made Luvumbu Ndoki in 1967 and beat him very hard (Mobutu was thinking that they were singing about he killed the 4 martyrs of the Pentecost). If it was someone else like Wemba, Emeneya or Dr Nico they would have arrested them. Papa Wemba made the song Esclave which was just about slavery, but he got visited by JMPR and getting warnings that he has not to sing about politics.
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Franco Pepe Kalle #13 on: October 15, 2019, 02:13

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Franco and Mobutu were not friends. They were just strategic partners. It is true that Mobutu helped the funeral of Franco but that is because he did not have a choice. Franco was the biggest face of the Zairian life outside of him. Franco made his impact on Zaire. Why would Mobutu not want to do that especially since he knew that a lot of Zairians revered Franco to death.

Franco was being smart about survival being in Zaire. He knew what kind of a man Mobutu was and he just adapted to his society. But Franco was not really pro Mobutu but more of a smart savvy man. He denounced greed in families and communities which Mobutu was largely part of. Franco also made songs relating to a common Zairian person. I am sure Mobutu at times, he was not happy about it. Mobutu also learned to tolerate Franco too since he gained great popularity.

I know Emongo (Franco's son) may say that Franco and Mobutu were friends but in my opinion, they were just strategic partners. Nothing more, nothing less.