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Title: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Franco Pepe Kalle on January 15, 2020, 20:21
I am going to start this. I want to pose this question. What do you think was Koffi's last good album.

For me, it was Bord Ezanga Kombo. Here some of my favorites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM8ktopUTyE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukx3QpQTVhI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hzqirRHBC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lh3KmuiGfE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHj0EZuv9Y0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXJKG2AiiII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m_D2Xc6Iao
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Matebu on January 15, 2020, 21:44
BEK was a really good album for rhumbas but the génériques were garbage. As a result his last good solo album for me was Monde Arabe - really amazingly crafted album. Unfortunately it came out at the wrong time
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Grandpretre on January 15, 2020, 21:46
Bord ezanga kombo easily. I put the booklet on the booklet’s topic
Abracadabra was weak as hell, 13e apotre garbage to the max, the weakest of his discography, nyataquance weak exept generics & alidor.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: congo-243 on January 15, 2020, 22:38
BEK
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Congolitude on January 15, 2020, 22:40
BEK was a really good album for rhumbas but the génériques were garbage. As a result his last good solo album for me was Monde Arabe - really amazingly crafted album. Unfortunately it came out at the wrong time

Totally agree, in addition the album had songs with varied rhythms (embargo, stand by, musulman, sexy pop...). Vocals of QL's member were on point... Its why i dont understand why people underrated this album
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: CM PRINCE on January 15, 2020, 23:24
Monde Arabe easily
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: SLK97 on January 16, 2020, 00:05
BEK, because the rumbas were decent, enjoyable and unpredictable in terms of sound and arrangement.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Wenge1995 on January 16, 2020, 05:08
As a complete project, Monde Arabe was the last album where the generiques were just as inspired as the rhumbas. BEK had good rhumbas, but you could tell that Koffi hadn't the same confidence in the creative team that he had with QL.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: BercysFinest98 on January 16, 2020, 20:57
Bendele was one of the worst génériques that Koffi has made. He should've put "Bla Bla Bla" instead! With the solo guitar reprises from his previous works
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: SoukousFan on January 17, 2020, 08:53
Bendele was one of the worst génériques that Koffi has made. He should've put "Bla Bla Bla" instead! With the solo guitar reprises from his previous works

hahahaha, BercysFinest98 , For Bendele i can only listen to the guitar partition from 3:23 to 3:54, that is it.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Matebu on January 17, 2020, 13:55
Bendele was one of the worst génériques that Koffi has made. He should've put "Bla Bla Bla" instead! With the solo guitar reprises from his previous works

hahahaha, BercysFinest98 , For Bendele i can only listen to the guitar partition from 3:23 to 3:54, that is it.

I literally have not listened to that generique since late 2008; it's tragic
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Pabloone71 on January 17, 2020, 18:13
Bord Ezanga Kombo, and Abracadabra (because this album was the last beautiful melody of his album, in addition it is the last!! Good rumbas!! Very good generics, good at the top, Swira Banko very strong, listen again very well these generics, these rumbas).
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: CM PRINCE on January 17, 2020, 18:19
Bord Ezanga Kombo, and Abracadabra (because this album was the last beautiful melody of his album, in addition it is the last!! Good rumbas!! Very good generics, good at the top, Swira Banko very strong, listen again very well these generics, these rumbas).
Ehhh Abracadabra??
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Pabloone71 on January 17, 2020, 19:14
Bord Ezanga Kombo, and Abracadabra (because this album was the last beautiful melody of his album, in addition it is the last!! Good rumbas!! Very good generics, good at the top, Swira Banko very strong, listen again very well these generics, these rumbas).
Ehhh Abracadabra??
yes my bro. Like Ekafela , La Foudre , Boulevard (bonus. From Bana Zebola) ,  Balançoire , Nswaki several ... this is my last favorite album
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Matebu on January 17, 2020, 19:36
Bord Ezanga Kombo, and Abracadabra (because this album was the last beautiful melody of his album, in addition it is the last!! Good rumbas!! Very good generics, good at the top, Swira Banko very strong, listen again very well these generics, these rumbas).
Ehhh Abracadabra??
yes my bro. Like Ekafela , La Foudre , Boulevard (bonus. From Bana Zebola) ,  Balançoire , Nswaki several ... this is my last favorite album

Bro, you like that bedroom music very likely recorded in bed by Cindy and Koffi kiekie. Koffi sang with absolutely zero effort on that album
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Pabloone71 on January 17, 2020, 19:54
Bord Ezanga Kombo, and Abracadabra (because this album was the last beautiful melody of his album, in addition it is the last!! Good rumbas!! Very good generics, good at the top, Swira Banko very strong, listen again very well these generics, these rumbas).
Ehhh Abracadabra??
yes my bro. Like Ekafela , La Foudre , Boulevard (bonus. From Bana Zebola) ,  Balançoire , Nswaki several ... this is my last favorite album

No hahahahahaha, I will want to talk about the melody but Koffi’s voice is fine, but except for the hahahaha sex song,

Bro, you like that bedroom music very likely recorded in bed by Cindy and Koffi kiekie. Koffi sang with absolutely zero effort on that album

No hahahahahaha, I will want to talk about the melody but Koffi’s voice is fine, but except for the sex sing hahaha
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 19, 2020, 15:28
So because of B.E.K. not having a good generic means that Monde Arabe was Koffi's last good album ? That doesn't make sense, because B.E.K. has 17 songs with Bendele being one of them, while Monde Arabe has 18 songs with some songs like Sexy Pop, Essili and Mopao en Or not being on the top, while on B.E.K. all songs were top notch, except Bendele.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 19, 2020, 15:36
Koffi decided to release Bendele instead of Bla Bla Bla, because it got leaked on the internet, 6 months before it release. With most people having it on their phones and computers. Also alot rumba's on B.E.K. were 11 and 13 minutes long, songs like Sixieme Chantier, BB Gout & Plat Favori, so there wasn't much space to put Bla Bla Bla on CD1, since that a has only 80 minutes. Which made Koffi decided to release it only on DVD. After the Europe Tour Koffi already planned to unsettle Gessac, Joss Diena, Hono Kapanga and Gabbana slowly and wasn't really motivated anymore to put a generic on his album. So he planned to not release a generic on his album, but changed on the last minute his mind to please his fans of the young generation and those living in Western Africa, so he put Bendele as last song. I remember journalist Paulin Mukendi attacking Koffi for that in an interview made after the release of B.E.K. and Koffi keeping repeating that Bill Clinton is the best atalaku in Congo, just a way to humilate Gessac.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Matebu on January 19, 2020, 15:47
Koffi decided to release Bendele instead of Bla Bla Bla, because it got leaked on the internet, 6 months before it release. With most people having it on their phones and computers. Also alot rumba's on B.E.K. were 11 and 13 minutes long, songs like Sixieme Chantier, BB Gout & Plat Favori, so there wasn't much space to put Bla Bla Bla on CD1, since that a has only 80 minutes. Which made Koffi decided to release it only on DVD. After the Europe Tour Koffi already planned to unsettle Gessac, Joss Diena, Hono Kapanga and Gabbana slowly and wasn't really motivated anymore to put a generic on his album. So he planned to not release a generic on his album, but changed on the last minute his mind to please his fans of the young generation and those living in Western Africa, so he put Bendele as last song. I remember journalist Paulin Mukendi attacking Koffi for that in an interview made after the release of B.E.K. and Koffi keeping repeating that Bill Clinton is the best atalaku in Congo, just a way to humilate Gessac.

Masta so glad you are back
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 19, 2020, 16:26
Merci
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Grandpretre on January 19, 2020, 20:05
So because of B.E.K. not having a good generic means that Monde Arabe was Koffi's last good album ? That doesn't make sense, because B.E.K. has 17 songs with Bendele being one of them, while Monde Arabe has 18 songs with some songs like Sexy Pop, Essili and Mopao en Or not being on the top, while on B.E.K. all songs were top notch, except Bendele.

I ageee with you (as always). I prefer have a « bendele » than have « sexy pop », « esili », « mopao en or », too much filer in monde arabe.
Plus the sebenes in monde arabe, in my opinion, weren’t that good.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 19, 2020, 21:34
I liked the generics of Monde Arabe along with Riziki and Respect. But I didn't like Mopoa en Or and Rouge A Levre. It was like they recorded those songs quickly because of the demand from donors or so that there would be some balance between rumba's and sebenes.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Pabloone71 on January 19, 2020, 21:52
I liked the generics of Monde Arabe along with Riziki and Respect. But I didn't like Mopoa en Or and Rouge A Levre. It was like they recorded those songs quickly because of the demand from donors or so that there would be some balance between rumba's and sebenes.

Me I also prefer the generic L'Autre La , except Heros National because it’s too much to filer too like a synthetic for me, but an good drum (Titina al capone).
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Franco Pepe Kalle on January 20, 2020, 00:21
Koffi decided to release Bendele instead of Bla Bla Bla, because it got leaked on the internet, 6 months before it release. With most people having it on their phones and computers. Also alot rumba's on B.E.K. were 11 and 13 minutes long, songs like Sixieme Chantier, BB Gout & Plat Favori, so there wasn't much space to put Bla Bla Bla on CD1, since that a has only 80 minutes. Which made Koffi decided to release it only on DVD. After the Europe Tour Koffi already planned to unsettle Gessac, Joss Diena, Hono Kapanga and Gabbana slowly and wasn't really motivated anymore to put a generic on his album. So he planned to not release a generic on his album, but changed on the last minute his mind to please his fans of the young generation and those living in Western Africa, so he put Bendele as last song. I remember journalist Paulin Mukendi attacking Koffi for that in an interview made after the release of B.E.K. and Koffi keeping repeating that Bill Clinton is the best atalaku in Congo, just a way to humilate Gessac.

Another notable thing on BEK sadly was the beginning of the overuse of Cindy Le Coeur. Instead of putting some vocals of singers like old veterans Suzuki and the late Babia Ndonga, he barely promoted the other singers like JTrois who could have been a better use for Koffi and only putted so much Cindy sounding and the sexual moaning sounds were unneccassary. It was the beginning that Koffi forgot about music and only looked at Cindy le Coeur.

@Matebu, you are right sir. It is sad because I miss the Koffi of even 2003 when he released Affaire D'Affaire. That is one of his greatest works ever.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 20, 2020, 00:37
If he had promoted Babia & Suzuki again, then it would have beenthe end of his career. Using Cindy a lot brought something new in Koffi’s music and it brought with him the comeback of female singers in the Congolese music-scene, with almost all bands recruiting female singers, solo artists like Laurette La Perle appearing. The impact of B.E.K. would be less if there wasn’t Cindy, because Koffi was then almost finished. If you listen and read  the review of journalists, music-fanatics you will know that Cindy saved him because they used then to say « eloko ya sika eza te » (there isn’t something new).

The mistake of Koffi was to not come with a group-album for the Quartier Latin-members (Joss Diena, J3, Asso, etc.). Instead of that, he started to unsettle them one by one and Quartier Latin, slowly becoming orchestre d’accompagnement like it used to be back in the years 1986-1992. If he came with a group-album after B.E.K., then the story would have been very different.

Don’t forget that Koffi was very hurt by Fally’s departure and didn’t want to get a third big deception after Fally & Academia. That’s also why he didn’t really want to promote the big stars. Alot of people don’t know that the song Ikea, had to be a duet of Koffi & Joss Diena.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Franco Pepe Kalle on January 20, 2020, 00:48
If he had promoted Babia & Suzuki again, then it would have beenthe end of his career. Using Cindy a lot brought something new in Koffi’s music and it brought with him the comeback of female singers in the Congolese music-scene, with almost all bands recruiting female singers, solo artists like Laurette La Perle appearing. The impact of B.E.K. would be less if there wasn’t Cindy, because Koffi was then almost finished. If you listen and read  the review of journalists, music-fanatics you will know that Cindy saved him because they used then to say « eloko ya sika eza te » (there isn’t something new).

The mistake of Koffi was to not come with a group-album for the Quartier Latin-members (Joss Diena, J3, Asso, etc.). Instead of that, he started to unsettle them one by one and Quartier Latin, slowly becoming orchestre d’accompagnement like it used to be back in the years 1986-1992. If he came with a group-album after B.E.K., then the story would have been very different.

Don’t forget that Koffi was very hurt by Fally’s departure and didn’t want to get a third big deception after Fally & Academia. That’s also why he didn’t really want to promote the big stars. Alot of people don’t know that the song Ikea, had to be a duet of Koffi & Joss Diena.

I get your point but what I meant was that Koffi could have had two songs with Babia and Suzuki singing and then the rest having the new faces as well as Cindy but not overuse Cindy like he would do after the BEK album. That is what I meant. BTW why would he bring back Babia and Suzuki into the fold during the 2007-08 period.
Title: Re: What was Koffi's last good album in your eyes?
Post by: Mfumu Vata on January 20, 2020, 00:52
Babia wasn’t himself anymore (he used then to be  like Adjani) making since 2003  unnoticed departures and comebacks. Suzuki was broke and finished and asked Koffi if he could return, making his comeback in 2006.