Author Topic: What were Mbuta Kamoka & Rene Lokua thinking about QL atlaku's using their song  (Read 643 times)

mvulusi96 on: March 11, 2019, 19:46

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What were Mbuta Kamoka, Rene Lokua and their band Prince de la Paix thinking about CNN & Ocean Zibanukulu using parts of their song Bobele yo as new animation for the ndombolo part (adding also Wendo's song of ba Niangalakata) with later also Mboshi Lipassa in concerts of Academia and Jean Didier Loko using a part for the Internet-generique to praise JB Mpiana. I had a friend who was a strict christian and said that they were playing with god and they would late or early a big smack.



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CNN (also Mboshi Lipassa in concerts for Academia) would use also another gospel song (i forgot the title) as animation in Attentat. "Yo oyebi ba pasi nga namona pona yo,..."



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CNN, Theo Mbala (Les Quatro and in Film Ebaluki for Bozi, he would also use that iza-iza part of Bobele Yo) and Mboshi (in concerts) would share this gospel song also this animation.



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Drumstar98 #1 on: March 11, 2019, 19:55

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There's another example from Marie Misamu and the track seigneur.

mvulusi96 #2 on: March 11, 2019, 19:58

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Bizima Kondos also animating that song and hitting also those high notes like Rene Lokua which CNN and Ocean weren't doing in their animation.

from 9:30 min/10:02 min (Marie Paul then being happy).

archos #3 on: March 11, 2019, 20:00

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At least they did not add explicit lyrics after that lol,in many brigade generiques there is either at the start or around the middle an adaptation of a gospel song,well followed by his trademark bedroom lyrics

mvulusi96 #4 on: March 11, 2019, 20:00

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There's another example from Marie Misamu and the track seigneur.

Yes, it was that song that I was looking for Attentat and Mboshi's animation below, but I wasn't finding it since that I didn't knew the title.

Drumstar98 #5 on: March 11, 2019, 20:13

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I wonder why rene lokua and mbuta sang gospel were they worried they might be competing with big stars

mvulusi96 #6 on: March 11, 2019, 20:26

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lol, they became famous as Gospel-artists so why would they change ? I think that it would hard for them to succeed, I also don't believe that they get a chance in Quartier Latin, Maison Mere, BCBG & Nouvelle Ecriture. Rene Lokua would maybe suceed as a world-music singer like Lokua Kanza. But about Olivier Kalabasi, he started as a bassist for Charles Mombaya and then became in Europe a member of Anti-Volcans which was a band managed and produced by Martin Mapangu and his label Benedikta. There was a video of their band rehearsing on IZ Ingenieur's channel but it got deleted because by I guess Martin Mapangu for copyrights. I noticed that he always delete videos who were produced by him like Rigo Makengo for example the video of Werra's concert at Estadio da Cidadela in Luanda (Angola) after Solola Bien, but luckily those videos of Heures de Pointe (vol. 1 & 2) on Mudjona Dobss's channel didn't got deleted. I saw that Soukousman (aka DJ Shaddy Purppp) uploaded their full-album on youtube, but I can't find it anymore on his channel. I can't it also find it on digitalplatforms and if I type Anti Volcans on google then I can't find anymore information about the band.




mvulusi96 #7 on: March 11, 2019, 20:32

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I wonder why rene lokua and mbuta sang gospel were they worried they might be competing with big stars



Here's Mbuta Kamoka's interview about how he became famous. It would have been interresting if Ado also interviewed Olivier Kalabasi and Rene Lokua, also excepted them after Thomas Lokofe but then Ado switched towards Ndombolo, interviewing then Titina Al Capone after Aime Nkanu when he saw that his views were going down and that Ingrid Kabongo was inviting the same guests.

Drumstar98 #8 on: March 11, 2019, 21:57

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mvulusi96 #9 on: March 11, 2019, 22:05

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As soon they went to Europe their careers were over.

They were unlucky that gospel-music hadn't alot of donors and sponsor like now otherwise they would've become rich like Moise Mbiye and Mike Kalambayi who are making big money now.

Mirobexx #10 on: March 12, 2019, 00:11

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Kalabasi has done well.He has a good solo guitarist Deo Solo .That young man can play and put some accomplished players.

jeantwatwa #11 on: March 12, 2019, 11:06

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I'm, enjoying this thread... appreciate the scholarly research that went into this.

Drumstar98 #12 on: March 12, 2019, 15:35

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As soon they went to Europe their careers were over.

They were unlucky that gospel-music hadn't alot of donors and sponsor like now otherwise they would've become rich like Moise Mbiye and Mike Kalambayi who are making big money now.

More like those guys using Elongi Ya Jesus.

mvulusi96 #13 on: March 12, 2019, 15:54

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Papa Wemba denounced those fake pastors and gospel-singers making business and abusing. But he made the mistake to put Diangienda's face in the videoclip with all those kimbanguistes being angry and Papa Wemba started to get problems, etc. hahahaha you must not mess with Besingombe & people from Manianga (ba grand sorondiongo lol). Papa Wemba went then all the way to Nkamba (Kongo Central) and asked Diangienda and all those kimbanguiste for forgiveniss and they accepted it. Wemba was bare feet when he went there. I can't find the video, but it used to be on Afrika Telema's channel, believe that it got deleted.


Drumstar98 #14 on: March 12, 2019, 19:33

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Papa Wemba denounced those fake pastors and gospel-singers making business and abusing. But he made the mistake to put Diangienda's face in the videoclip with all those kimbanguistes being angry and Papa Wemba started to get problems, etc. hahahaha you must not mess with Besingombe & people from Manianga (ba grand sorondiongo lol). Papa Wemba went then all the way to Nkamba (Kongo Central) and asked Diangienda and all those kimbanguiste for forgiveniss and they accepted it. Wemba was bare feet when he went there. I can't find the video, but it used to be on Afrika Telema's channel, believe that it got deleted.

I used to have the VHS of the video it had the clip of Elongi Ya Jesus at the start but going to ask someone for forgiveness with bare feet scares me.