Author Topic: Who adviced Roga Roga to wear leather pants in 12 Balles ?  (Read 390 times)

mvulusi96 on: December 29, 2018, 23:18

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I couldn't watch anymore to the videoclip from 2:59 min. Nkiadi Kibeni

What did those Extra Musica-dancers become ? The only time I saw them was on their first Abidjan-concert,but I don't think that it were the same dancers. They are the only dancers of their generation who weren't known.

In which DVD/VHS were Probleme sur Probleme, Guivano and 12 Balles released ? Because I used to have the Trop c'est Trop-DVD and it had all songs except Guivano, Probleme sur Probleme and 12 Balles.
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mokosarkani #1 on: January 03, 2019, 07:57

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Franco Pepe Kalle #2 on: January 07, 2019, 02:15

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It was a sign that Roga Roga was the king. It's stupid but Roga Roga was doing that to show the other man that he will fully run Extra Musica. I mean FULLY. I think the leather pants was part of that "sign".

mvulusi96 #3 on: January 07, 2019, 02:37

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It was a sign that Roga Roga was the king. It's stupid but Roga Roga was doing that to show the other man that he will fully run Extra Musica. I mean FULLY. I think the leather pants was part of that "sign".

Wearing leather pants were back in 1998, 1999 and 2001 a trend in the sape-world, it wasn't something really special. The reason why I asked that, is because you could see his d*ck moving. I think that the size of those pants were to small. I guess that someone of Europe just gave him that as a gift. Back in those days people living in Europe were giving their own clothes, alot of money, cars to them for free or mabanga.

Roga Roga was already the king since 1998, but it was doing him alot of pain that Oxygene, Doudou Copa and Herman Ngassaki were getting alot of money on stage and people keeping asking them to do mabanga for them, but people rarely contacting Roga Roga. This was because he was a guitarist and a guitarist couldn't do mabanga in concerts when they areplaying. They can only ask the singers to do that, but that it's very difficult if you are in conflict with them. This was the reason why he was all the times conflicts inDoudou Copa in 2002 until 2004 and it's also the reason which motivated him to start singing in albums. With him saying "lolendo ya chauffer etindi patron akumba motuka, chauffer azangi mosala" and then starting singing in Obligatoire on Aigle Imperial, Racines 2 and doing some mabanga's. Roga Roga then starting to have a special entrance in concerts, singing Aigle Imperial and Racines 2, before playing guitar the whole concert. From then he started to force Doudou Copa & Oxygene out, to be the lead-singer. From La Main Noire became the lead-singer of Extra Musica and gave Sonor Digital the role of being the lead-guitarist of the band.



Wenge1995 #4 on: January 08, 2019, 10:38

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Why didn't Herman Ngassaki join Universal Zangul when the others left Extra Musica Zangul? He should of have realized that Roga Roga was introducing Levyson as his replacement, just listen to Herman's song from Obligatoire.


mvulusi96 #5 on: January 08, 2019, 13:16

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Why didn't Herman Ngassaki join Universal Zangul when the others left Extra Musica Zangul? He should of have realized that Roga Roga was introducing Levyson as his replacement, just listen to Herman's song from Obligatoire.



Herman Ngassaki was to close with Roga Roga & Espe Bass. So he would never join Universal Zangul. It was a little bit like karma when Roga Roga started to introduce Herman Ngassaki & Doudou Copa in Confirmation while Guy Guy Fall was still there.

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Is Ferreol Gassackys still the manager of Extra Musica Zangul? I remember he was present for their major concerts in Africa and Europe and even appeared on the generique clip of Shalai @ 1:00 minute and again at 2:25 minute.



Why did the original formation of Extra Musica break up? I remember Guy Guy Fall wanted to go solo, but what happened with Durrell and Quentin Moyascko to make them leave to form Extra Musica International and Z1?




mvulusi96 #7 on: January 09, 2019, 10:50

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Is Ferreol Gassackys still the manager of Extra Musica Zangul? I remember he was present for their major concerts in Africa and Europe and even appeared on the generique clip of Shalai @ 1:00 minute and again at 2:25 minute.



Why did the original formation of Extra Musica break up? I remember Guy Guy Fall wanted to go solo, but what happened with Durrell and Quentin Moyascko to make them leave to form Extra Musica International and Z1?





Ferreol Gassakys isn't Extra Musica's manager anymore since 2002. He's in politics now and used to be the general director of the Fespam-festivals in Brazzaville.

Guyguy Fall didn't want to go solo. He forced out by Roga Roga. He had an immense succes after the release of Nouveaux Missiles which didn't please Roga Roga & Quetin Moyascko who were jealous. So they started to minisize him and slowly introduce Herman Ngassaki (Ferreol's cousin) and Doudou Copa (who used to be Guyguy best friend). On the Confirmation-album he didn't sing lead like he used to do on Nouveaux Missiles. They then started to sing with 5 microphones instead of 4 with Quetin being in the middle and Guyguy Fall far in the corner. The tensions started to be strong with Roga Roga then accusing Guyguy Fall of doing witchcraft on Doudou Copa and Herman Ngassaki to not sing lead on songs and Roga then firing him from the band. He went to France and recorded his solo album Cote Ouest where he attacked Roga Roga very hard. After that he was contacted by JB Mpiana to join Wenge BCBG to replace Werrason and was presented at Bataclan, but Blaise Bula didn't like him and gave him a hard time which made leave Wenge BCBG very quickly without even having performed them. Then he joined Extra Musica International but left again after some months and restarted his solo-career, releasing then Force de Frappe attacking Roga Roga again very strongly. Then he dissapeard for a long time until he joined Viva Tendence in 2003.

There were problems in Extra Musica about royalties and they discovered that Denide wasn't really fair. Another thing was that people weren't paid very well and many other problems. Durrel Loemba was fed to keeping playing and wanted to be the second lead-guitarist of the band, but Roga Roga was against it. There alot of problems with on a point Quetin Moyascko talking to Roga Roga and claiming that he made a petition with all musicians being okay to fire Ferreol Gassackys and the whole staff of Extra Musica with himself Quetin getting full power to direct Extra Musica. Saying then to Roga that he has also to sign. Then after some days Roga changed his mind, saying that it could split the band and said that it's better to say it to all members since that Extra Musica has different leaders (Espe Bass, Ramatoulaye, Kila Mbongo,...). They didn't short the things out which made Quetin Moyascko leave Extra Musica along with Durrel Loemba and Pinochet Thierry (administrator) with Regis Touba following them (he saw that his place in Extra Musica was in dangerous, seeing Abilissi getting alot of advantages after singing in Ouragan. Regis couldn't sing in Ouragan because of having to do exams which made him miss the first Europe-tour of Extra). When Quetin Moyascko formed Extra Musica International he contacted ex'singer Extra Musica singers Christian Ambe (who sung in Nouveaux Missiles) & Guy Guy Fall and recruited musicians like Arnaud Laguna, Cyrrile Malonga, Etats Unis, Arafat 2500 Volts (he would join Extra Musica Zangul some months later after being left behind in Brazzaville), Mellon Ngakana, etc. They then recorded Super Helico which was a huge succes. Performing in some African countries and performing in front of a huge crowds in Brazzaville & Pointe Noire. After that they didn't perform anymore for some months. Then received contracts for a tour in Europe with them all being ready to go. But Durrel Loemba, Regis Touba, Cyrille Malonga and Pinochet Thierry said that it was better to give some farewell concerts in Brazzaville and Pointe Noire to get some money for their families. Quetin refused, saying that it could affect their image, because they used to set records at Palais du Parlement and if those farewell concerts would flop, it would kill their Europe-tour. From then problems starting between the guys, Quetin went to Europe with the band recording M.E.R.C.I. and Pinochet Thierry, Regis Touba, Durrel Loemba forming Z1 International with them also going to Europe not long after that. They performed at Bataclan, Casino de Paris next alongside Bozi Boziana & Adolphe Dominguez, recording in Europe their album Ere de Verite. The album was a huge succes with them being voted as revelation of the year. But the band would split again, because of Regis Touba leaving the band to form his own. Regis Touba released then a maxi-single, but it flopped very hard with people advicing him to join a band in Kinshasa to make some experience and he joined then Wenge BCBG. Durrel Loemba and Pinochet Thierry tried to reform Z1 International, with Durrel Loemba going to Europe to short somethings out, but he became then broke which forced him to do some jobs in France. This made some members like Levyson join Extra Musica Zangul and other bands. Then Durrel Loemba returned and recorded Bastonade, he went then again to Europe and stayed there again for a long time with some members like Zaparo de Guerre joining Extra Musica Zangul.... Quetin Moysacko on his side had a huge succes with the M.E.R.C.I.-album and became the Unicef-ambassador of peace, touring then in some African-countries. After a tour in Europe in 2002 he dissapeard for a long time before returning in 2007 with Virgule, shortly after that he dissapeard again.

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Who is this guy dancing in the khaki pants and black leather jacket at the 5:46 minute mark and onward? I see him on the album covers and clips of Etat Major, Shalai, and Trop C'est Trop.

I know he's a mbonda player for the band from their live performances, but I'm not sure if he is Gildas Ponzi or Emery Mbonda. Is he still with Zangul?


mvulusi96 #9 on: January 10, 2019, 21:07

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That’s Gildas Pozzi. He left a long time ago. He left in 2001, he decided to stay in Europe when Extra Musica finished their tour. In Trop c’est Trop he put 1 song (Karen Amour). He was replaced by Pithos Mbonda.

archos #10 on: January 10, 2019, 21:20

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lol so all the three mbonda players of history of extra musica remained in europe,emery boyart,gildas pozzi and pitos now