Author Topic: Why did Karmapa never thought of doing small concerts in Europe ?  (Read 376 times)

Mfumu Vata on: March 21, 2023, 22:55

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When releasing albums like Je m'Apelle Toi, Temps de l'Amour & Riposte. Why did Karmapa not think about doing concerts in small halls like New Morning, Le Divan du Monde, Trabendo, etc. with his mentor Beniko Popolipo and musicians like Tripason, Dede Djascko, Michel Bass and Djudjuchet ? Like Koffi Olomidé used to the period of 1985-1992 with Rigo Star and co.



It would have boosted Karmapa's succes more and having a proper fanbase in Europe. It looks like he totally neglected Europe to focus on Kinshasa. But him in Kinshasa after Temps d'Amour not really do anything special. Just rehearsing and once in a few time giving vip concerts. There was even a moment that Skol/Bracongo was about to cut their contract with him because of them losing of money (since Werra's departure having serious financial issues and loses) and Karmapa not brining anything since that he was barely doing public concerts. Karmapa waisted all his time in Kinshasa for nothing.



Also did Karmapa after Riposte not think about giving his singers the opportunity to put songs and what was the reason of his long silence after Riposte until generique they made in 2011 which



It's shame that he didn't fulfill the potential he had. He came really hard with Je m'appelle toi and the press presenting him in the start as someone of the new generation until discovering that he was old when starting doing polemic with Felix Wazekwa.



How does Karmapa live ? Because I don't think that get big money.

archos #1 on: March 21, 2023, 23:01

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because he wanted to do zenith olympia straight away but never felt ready enough and supported enough
karmapa has private business,cars who go to bas congo,trucks which transport wood and stones and things like that

Mfumu Vata #2 on: March 22, 2023, 00:58

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erreur grave. apart abeti masikini who performed at olympia on age of 19 without album on her name, there's no artist that did olympia straight away. people will maybe name fally or jb mpiana, but fally also had a 7 years background with quartier latin and served himself with the quartier latin fanbase in his first 3 years of his solo-career. jb mpiana had a background with wenge 4x4 and wenge bcbg. when i think of adolphe, i think how zacle said brutally "adolphe kutu abeta olympia ya meiway" hahaha. he made the mistake to start with lsc and end with olympia. it had to be the other side around.

anyway those dreams go in small steps. also the music karmapa makes doesn't target the right public. he wants to do original rumba, but that music targets "ba tata". with such dreams you never perform at olympia or you need to be lutumba simaro or madilu. but they are legends and have a long list of hits on their name. that's why clan wenge-fanatics always like to attack koffi. by saying if he didn't do "wenge music" and stayed with the original tchatcho style of the 1980s he would never performed at olympia, zenith & bercy.

karmapa is unlucky that he's from matete. most are interested in martical sports and those being interested in music all support wazekwa. if he was from n'djili, yolo, matonge, kv, ngiri-ngiri, bandalungwa or kintambo he would have massive support.

Mwanayaafrica #3 on: March 22, 2023, 02:40

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How and why did Abeti Masikini perform at Olympia as the 2nd African artist at age 19 without an album?

Mfumu Vata #4 on: March 22, 2023, 12:52

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She had Gerard Akuéson as manager (he would later become her husband). Akueson had a big "carnet d'adresse" (i dont know how to say it in english). He came from Togo and discovered Abeti at a talent show organised by late Gerard Madiata in 1971. Abeti ended up by winning the talent-show. They immediatly recorded 2 singles in Togo and toured with it to Benin, Ivory Coast, Niger, Burkina Faso, Guinee, Senegal, Ghana and Nigeria. Gerard then arranged a contract for her at Olympia by writing a letter and meeting Bruno Coquatrix, who was at that time the head of Olympia. Like before Tabu Ley's show, Bruno visited one of Abeti shows. He was convinced and signed a contract with them to perform at Olympia (Back in those days it was hard to get a contract for Olympia and you had to go through Bruno Coquatrix). Abeti started to prepare the show and somewhere in february 1973 she performed there. The show was a success and attended by many French stars. It opened the horizon for her and she started receive many contracts. French fashion designer Pierre Cardin then produced her first album "Pierre Cardin présent Abeti". In 1975 she would come back to give a double show at Olympia. Due to her show at Olympia in 1973, she also managed to perform at the mythic Carnegie Hall in New York. The American press saw her big potential and saw her the new Myriam Makeba. But everything got messed up when her manager Gerard Akueson suddenly cancelled tour dates in the US out of fear, because of Mobutu wanting Abeti for his visit in France. But Mobutu ended up by not going to France. It created distrust from US concert promoters towards Abeti and it took years to gain the trust from them back.