Author Topic: Why hasn't Celeo got the respect he deserve?  (Read 236 times)

congo-243 on: March 31, 2020, 02:43

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I have always felt like he could've been shown more respect and consideration in WMM, especially when Bill left, but it always felt at least to me that Werra was still trying to replace him or the Infamous 12 him. And getting out of the shadow of Bill isn't easy. Maybe I think what hurts him too from what I seen, I could be wrong. Is Werra not respecting his work or never mentioning him.

Kizito #1 on: March 31, 2020, 09:44

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Sometimes it is very difficulty to know what really transpired. May be he was not creative enough that is why werra tried to force him out, may be the cries were not his, we know that Alert Generally cries were created when Bill was still in the band.

archos #2 on: March 31, 2020, 10:59

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I Think in alerte he got more respect,he was even in line for chef d'orchestre,its more overall in their 23 years of career than celeo is not getting the due respect
celeo was forced out for a simple reason,some leaders the more you become famous the more you grow up the more you are demanding in terms of money so its better to kick you out and recruit one guy for who just seeing you smile at him is like giving him 1000 dollars lol to use an expression from mosaka

Manzambi94 #3 on: March 31, 2020, 12:47

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I have always felt like he could've been shown more respect and consideration in WMM, especially when Bill left, but it always felt at least to me that Werra was still trying to replace him or the Infamous 12 him. And getting out of the shadow of Bill isn't easy. Maybe I think what hurts him too from what I seen, I could be wrong. Is Werra not respecting his work or never mentioning him.

Simply because Werrason didn't like him. Plain and simple. Bill have insulted Werra so much in these years even more than Celeo with straight generiques (Miziki ya Koko Wana elala eeeee elala, the music of that oldie is sleepy is sleepy)



05:50

Lol that was so desrespectful

 and with personal attack and accuses like in trahison where he clearly sad that Wenge cheated him and tricked him when he wanted to stay there forever



 but only Celeo gets in trouble when he insults or answer back to Sankara and the many people teasing him, is not even Werra but Bill insulted Innoss how many times and no one said anything except for the comment on YouTube of an intervieww who got low views




Where he says that Innoss is a LiKwanga Nzala(which means a guy hungry for Kwanga) since he is runmed away from Goma to search for some food in Kinshasa and that he must not talk about him because Bill is a TV Musicians (implying that people actually tuned in to saw him) unlike Innoss who probably bought some views according to Bill


but when Celeo said something about Fally even Mbuta Likasu started to belittle Celeo.



Where Mbuta Likasu diss openly Celeo because he had a problem with Fally saying that he is not successful has low views is not known outside and think about Fall's success when he sleeps and that the only time people care about Celeo is when he starts to insult people. Forgetting to mention that Celeo has had many successful songs with one surpassing the 1 milion mark so

The other reason it is because Celeo was dark, yes it sounds crazy but is the reality, and since Bill was lighter Werra wanted Bill to be the face of Wenge
Another reason because Bill was more popular then Celeo is that Bill is a dancer and Celeo despite his trying can't really dance that well











And when you are in a show making machine like Wenge MM you can't be an Atalaku that doesn't dance at least that kinda stopped between 2004 and 2006 with Kene Kene and Prince being the last dancing Atalaku to become introduced to the scene





2:39 there is Kene Kene

from 2008 Lobeso, Brigade, Diego, and the many atalakus who came (yes Brigade was there till 2006 but got his shine in 2008) were not even close to being good at dancing




13:00 Lobeso and Brigade Dancing



8:22 Brigade and Prince and dancing until 9:00 mark


 with the focus being placed on guitarrist
 (Christian Solo, Luxembourg a.k.a. Kimbangu, Bicorine Makaba and Sarah Solo) because Werra understood that people didn't care much about dancing atalakus anymore.

Luxembourg 6:17

Arc En Ciel Bicorine Makaba

Sarah Solo

Celeo had many of cries and songs in fact J'En Ai Assez for Didi Kinuani is a great sing we can find in A La Queue Leu Leu where Celeo sings even Bill cries




But Werra sidelined him, because he was seeing Bill as the perfect guy to contribute to Wenge Lightskin, whi can animate in multiple languages, who can dance who can pulla choreography from nothing and that has that showman ship who makes you stay there. Celeo on the other wss dark, a pure atalaku not many dancing skills and got the voice very similar to the Atalaku of the rival band (BCBG) Calludji,



If you check from the 3:00 minute mark you can hear some crazy similarities with Celeo's voice



4:52 compare the voices



4:41

So if Werra pushed Celeo people would have started to say JB was the man because he had the original Caludni the same way people started ti trash Extra Musica because they say they have copied Wenge Musica's style like they did with many of their geneirque Shalai for example