Author Topic: WILL RETIRADA PUT HERITIER IN THE SAME SPOT OF FALLY AND FERRE?  (Read 6131 times)

Manzambi94 on: August 03, 2016, 08:38

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Retirada will come out soon, and with the success of BM, Hèritier showed he can esailly do it on a solo way, Further more he adds that BM is a small preview of more quality songs is about to release on the album, my question is, will Hèritier be able to reach Fally and Ferre which are the two lbiggest ex-group members who had an excellent solo carrer?
To me yes, because BM has a really good video and had more than 300k views which is a success for a Rumba, knowing that generique are way more popular I think that with a generique with all the atalaku Hèriter has he will reach the milion, being able to become the 3rd big soloist after Ferre and Fally.

Jdog #1 on: August 03, 2016, 09:57

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With Fally no, he has a long way to go to reach his level. He could get to atleast Ferre's level or beyond internationally. He will at least be a solid third artist behind Fally and Ferre.
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Roméo Seben #2 on: August 03, 2016, 12:32

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I hope he can be the third , he can reach fally level , he just need to learned english and he will be fine.

For ferre i'm not sure (Heritier do not have a strong voice),and also because like fabregas , Heritier do not have strong team singer. And also he would have to have a lot of concert to federate a strong and big fanbase.

Fally do it well , Ferre less good in that departement .

So it's up to him to work hard to make is place alongside the other two.

Also with out talking what Werrason and other big leader of group will do to sabotage him if he as succes( stealing singer ,dancer, staff member, stoping him to have concert the list goes on... It's difficult to keep the same team after the years , and something the quality drop(werrason , koffi...)

So if he can do all of this , and make good music( he need a big impact with this first album to stand out with the like robinio fabregas brigade and so on) ;)

But i want him to succeeded WENGE HEHEHE WENGE YAYA HEHEHEHE

EMOVICTEAM #3 on: August 03, 2016, 17:28

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To me Heritier has more charisma and strong on sebenes than ferre Gola. He will certainly be second from fally.

Manzambi94 #4 on: August 03, 2016, 19:21

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To me comparing him with Fally and Ferre, he can definitely be better than Fèrre in generique, but really hard for him to be better than Fèrre on Rumbas, on a national level he can be as good or better than Fèrre reaching all the districts, being not touched by the rivalry from the fans of Fèrre and Fally, comparing him with Fally, for the generique we need to see how the first one will be, because Fally on the level of quality and  releasing video for generique he is the best, and if you want to compete an international level and become like Koffi and other big guys you need to have really good quality videos of generique, for the international level, I don't know he have contacts in the America but he is to linked to Congo for being an international sensation.

EMOVICTEAM #5 on: August 04, 2016, 18:09

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Manzambi, it takes a two year old kid to understand that heritier knocks out ferre without an album to his name. Besides generics, heritier has been schooled very well in rumbas and has no bad voice. Overall he will definitely beat shetani.

Manzambi94 #6 on: August 04, 2016, 18:49

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Manzambi, it takes a two year old kid to understand that heritier knocks out ferre without an album to his name. Besides generics, heritier has been schooled very well in rumbas and has no bad voice. Overall he will definitely beat shetani.
The fact is not the bad voice but bad intonation, Héritier started to sing good just in his latest songs and even in BM he goes into the same mistakes of intonation he were doing in wenge, even they are shadowed by the fact he doesn't sing from the diaphram but sing like he were speaking in a low voice, and goes to the falsetto voice, when he needs to go higher, what Héritier's strength is is that his style of Rumba is differnet and unique unlike Férre which always try to replicate the Tabu Ley's and Carlito's style, and listen to the other songs in the whole project of songs it is really good. But he still needs to upgrade his voice even in Nkanda Ngobila the whole thing is good but Hériter uses the 60% of his voice.

johnbas #7 on: August 04, 2016, 20:54

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Heritier knocking out Ferre?? This is insanity!, you boys u derestimate Harve. We all like heritier yes but being 2nd from who?, that is the question? Why are you endosing Fally as always better than Ferre were the case is very much debatable.

Manzambi94 #8 on: August 04, 2016, 21:08

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Heritier knocking out Ferre?? This is insanity!, you boys u derestimate Harve. We all like heritier yes but being 2nd from who?, that is the question? Why are you endosing Fally as always better than Ferre were the case is very much debatable.
I never said that Héritier sings better than Férre no way is going to be like that, but the fact is that Férre's Rumba are repetitive, while Héritier is more versatile, and then I add that Héritier still needs to work for having his A game in singing BM was fufu in terms of singing but really good in terms of promotion this is why EMO saying that Héritier will take the 2nd spot, but to me Férre's gonna be Férre but Héritier's album gonna be a huge thing. BM 400k views with no promotions now imagine the other songs which are better than BM how they gonna perform?

EMOVICTEAM #9 on: August 04, 2016, 23:02

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I will wait for heritiers album to come back and explain.

Manzambi94 #10 on: August 05, 2016, 08:02

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To me first generique will be going internationally on African level.

ZamundaPrince #11 on: August 05, 2016, 10:45

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I think it will all come down to how he packages himself as a product and a brand and how he delivers that product to the masses. Sometimes it's not just the ability to do good music that counts but coming up with a commodity that the market wants to own.

He has to be prepared to do the hard work, keep learning,  keep improving. I hope he has a business plan attached to his dream and vision of becoming a superstar.

Roméo Seben #12 on: August 05, 2016, 11:41

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Exactly fally is musically mainstream so he is like by more pepole , does not do much just what pepole like easy to dance , say some word in english , photo with others star and more important seems to have a good relationship with Koffi so it work well in is favor.

In the other hand you have Ferre who is a complete artist , and more talented but is more underground (only pepole who really look at congolese music know him)  , i ask lots of my friends they know koffi , papa wemba , zaiko and fally even fabregas for ya mado just for ya mado ;D) but very few knew who was ferre.

And the fact that Ferre is not in good terms with werrason make a lots of pepoles hate him and dont wont the recognize is superiority despite the quality of is music.

That's why i say Heritier can repalce Fally, he is young he can play this game of marketing things(which is important), be in good terms with werra for benefit the fan base of Wenge.

Fabregas with one song made the all world dance so is easy just do mainstream music
and he will be fine.

 He can be at Fally level he just need good mainstream generique easy to dance and people will follow.

Manzambi94 #13 on: August 05, 2016, 12:38

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I think it will all come down to how he packages himself as a product and a brand and how he delivers that product to the masses. Sometimes it's not just the ability to do good music that counts but coming up with a commodity that the market wants to own.

He has to be prepared to do the hard work, keep learning,  keep improving. I hope he has a business plan attached to his dream and vision of becoming a superstar.
To me he has those things because with BM even though he say that he has not promoted it, he showed that he knows how to create that expectation, that lead people to want your album, for the quality, I have listened to some songs and the quality is there, in the whole the group is really good, and being Hèritier the enfant cherie of Werrason people will be interested in seeing how he is going to develop as a solo artist as Ferre Did. For being like Fally instead he needs to seriously promote himself in USA. Fabro did a good impact song like Mascara but he has not being costant in his music.

EMOVICTEAM #14 on: August 05, 2016, 14:38

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Ferre = JB. They have the same model of running their Affairs. So werrason always beats Jb internationally just like fally does to ferre.