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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on October 07, 2019, 18:12

Title: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: mvulusi96 on October 07, 2019, 18:12

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Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: archos on October 07, 2019, 18:14
would be strange not  to have ferr...euh... nicodem lol on it if there are people on it aside from werra
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: mrvibes on October 07, 2019, 18:40
Those are bunch of comedian posing with him..perhaps he is is changing career or even confirmibg it as i have always thought that he suited the comedian life better.. Lol..
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: mvulusi96 on October 07, 2019, 22:03
Werrason is getting roasted on those facebook-pages because of that poster.

I think that Werrason wanted to represent those 4 actual politicial movements with those 4 guys. The guy in the white representing MAFA ('aka Martin Fayulu) and copying the pose Fayulu used for his political campaign. The guy in red is representing those "beret rouge" who are those radical PPRD-militans and who like to attack people who against Jospeh Kabila. The guy with glases and putting the V-sign representing the UDPS-supporters and the guy with Zaire t-shrit representing those people who want to get the Zaire-era back.


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Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 07, 2019, 22:23

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I will be always a fan of Wenge MM, but honestly _I hope this will not be the cover) seeing a guy so much powerful whi is reducing himself to puting photos with comediens and a bodyguard who can't sing is really sad. Werra need to get rid of Yes Man and start to hear people whi will tell him the truth. Innoss, Fally, Ferre (Fabregas is losing points big tine his albun was good but wasn't well received) are making views and getting features everywhere. While Werra seems ti live in Old Glory
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: archos on October 08, 2019, 00:21
ohh wow so it was that??mann werra as usual taking his inspiration quite far
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: Nkosi on October 08, 2019, 12:29
Taking it easy.....It's Buzz
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: Tata Nkiadi on October 08, 2019, 14:58
the guy with Zaire t-shrit representing those people who want to get the Zaire-era back.

Interesting that Werra is giving this attention. What is the deal with this movement? There are many Congolese who live abroad who feel that the Zairean era flag and the name should return. It seems like it’s gaining traction. Are these from only Mobutu/MPR loyalists?
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: congo-243 on October 08, 2019, 16:55
Is this a joke?
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: Wenge1995 on October 08, 2019, 17:37
@Manzambi94

Fabregas album wasn't well recieved? Really?
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: mvulusi96 on October 08, 2019, 18:31
the guy with Zaire t-shrit representing those people who want to get the Zaire-era back.

Interesting that Werra is giving this attention. What is the deal with this movement? There are many Congolese who live abroad who feel that the Zairean era flag and the name should return. It seems like it’s gaining traction. Are these from only Mobutu/MPR loyalists?

No it has nothing to do with Mobutu/MPR loyalist. Back in 1997 when ADFL overthrew Mobutu from the power, 90% of the population were happy even those who used to be from the same province and tribe, calling those kadogo's (Child soldiers) "les liberateurs" but they would change their opinion in 1 year. Those who used to support him until the end didn't want to be associated to Mobutu or MPR anymore and those used to be from the same tribe and region started to have alot of difficulties in Kinshasa, being discriminated and people pointing them the finger that they killed the country. But now more than 20 years later if you ask people in Kinshasa and abroad if they prefer Mobutu-regime than the majority will say yes.

Most who want the Zairean era, flag and name back are mostly born in the 60s, 70s, 80s during Mobutu's reign and can't remember anything better than that era (while those who were born before prefer the colonial era). This all is because they are missing a charismatic leader like Mobutu who used to defend his country abroad  while since 1997 Dr Congo is keeping being humilated by clowns like Joseph Kabila and Felix Tshisekedi, countries like Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi killing and raping millions of people since 1996 with help from Congolese policitians who don't like their country and only care about money and power. Recently Felix Tshisekedi said that he wouldn't punish those rebels and leaders who made war-crimes in Dr Congo (1998-2003) because in his opinion its the past (alot are in his governement and army, guys like Thambwe Mwamba, Azarias Ruberwa,...) ,  forgetting that those rebels are continuing with killing and raping people. Alot of children, parents, women are waiting for justice, but it smees that it will never come.
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 09, 2019, 00:44
@Manzambi94

Fabregas album wasn't well recieved? Really?
Not like Anapipo (I think he could never reach those heights agains since Fabrehas fallout with Koffi (very stupid move from Fabregas he could be like Fally in popularity if he kept being close with Koffi)) and not like Zigida the only song who is going decent is Novelas but the rest mmm not even at the level of Zigida we must he hinest even though Fabregas is a good musician
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: Wenge1995 on October 09, 2019, 01:20
@mvulusi96

If Felix is not going to address past sins, then what is he doing to elevate RDC for today and forward? It's his soft approach that gives me serious doubts about his administrations legitimacy. He seems very much like Kablia's placeholder until the mandate finishes
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 09, 2019, 04:30
the guy with Zaire t-shrit representing those people who want to get the Zaire-era back.

Interesting that Werra is giving this attention. What is the deal with this movement? There are many Congolese who live abroad who feel that the Zairean era flag and the name should return. It seems like it’s gaining traction. Are these from only Mobutu/MPR loyalists?

No it has nothing to do with Mobutu/MPR loyalist. Back in 1997 when ADFL overthrew Mobutu from the power, 90% of the population were happy even those who used to be from the same province and tribe, calling those kadogo's (Child soldiers) "les liberateurs" but they would change their opinion in 1 year. Those who used to support him until the end didn't want to be associated to Mobutu or MPR anymore and those used to be from the same tribe and region started to have alot of difficulties in Kinshasa, being discriminated and people pointing them the finger that they killed the country. But now more than 20 years later if you ask people in Kinshasa and abroad if they prefer Mobutu-regime than the majority will say yes.

Most who want the Zairean era, flag and name back are mostly born in the 60s, 70s, 80s during Mobutu's reign and can't remember anything better than that era (while those who were born before prefer the colonial era). This all is because they are missing a charismatic leader like Mobutu who used to defend his country abroad  while since 1997 Dr Congo is keeping being humilated by clowns like Joseph Kabila and Felix Tshisekedi, countries like Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi killing and raping millions of people since 1996 with help from Congolese policitians who don't like their country and only care about money and power. Recently Felix Tshisekedi said that he wouldn't punish those rebels and leaders who made war-crimes in Dr Congo (1998-2003) because in his opinion its the past (alot are in his governement and army, guys like Thambwe Mwamba, Azarias Ruberwa,...) ,  forgetting that those rebels are continuing with killing and raping people. Alot of children, parents, women are waiting for justice, but it smees that it will never come.
Mvulusi unfortunately you must understand that Francophone Africa, until France will be beaten up or erased by someone with interest in Africa (like is happening just a little bit with China) Francophone Africa will be doomed into incompetency (with corrupt and ignorant leaders backed up by France) Rwanda and Burundi wonderstoos the politics game and are relying heavy on Belgium and France (despite Kagame faking lime he is hostile to France and he is indipendent) so they can easily get Coltan and be rich with blooded Congo money. Yesterday I saw a FB with the first all African Smartphone produced in Rwanda. I was so mad people don't even know how muxh deaths and suffering those African smartphone costs. Mobutu wasn't a saint, he wasn't the best leader, and his economics policies (despite having room to do something big for Congo) were a failure, but boy he could hold heads with USA with France and Belgium he was like an old Duterte version, but now honestly it is just sad Congo natural resources are accountable to 24 trilion dollars imagine if we had serious politics who hired serious economists and serious developers. That wouls be great. But at the same time Mvulusi you must understand that France is scared of losing Francophone Africa. That's why they insist so much in using the French language in ex colonies and using the Franc CFA and so on. 30% of France's energy cines frim Niger Uranium, ex Colonies still pay a colonial tax on France and other small things like that.
Did you know Gheddafi right? You know why he was killed? Because he had the dream of uniting Africa through a sole coin, Sankara killed because he managed to make Burkina Faso a functioning state withour debt against anybody, Lumumba got killed because he wanted to free Congo by the Belgian influence, Paul Biya is still Cameroon president because he is the guy who guarantees to French government that the Franc CFA will still be in place, recently Gbagbo he was exhiled for crimes against the humanity only because he wanted to Free Cote D'Ivoire bt France stranghold.
You see it is something we can't fight, until we united as ex Francophone countries because if not we will be Franc's bitch forever
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: EMOVICTEAM on October 09, 2019, 07:02
I think this is the era of fally,  ferre and innos B.  Werrason,  Jb mpiana wazekwa and the rest are being phased out and the earlier fans know,  the better.  Jb mpiana knows better.
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: mvulusi96 on October 09, 2019, 08:50
Compared to former French-colonies, France doesnt have any control over the DRC. Its only the USA that controls DRC, since its independence in 1960, forcing Belgium to let DRC go, being along with Belgium behind Lumumba's murder, putting Mobutu on power with help OF the CIA and using Mobutu as puppet to fight communism in Central Africa. The same USA dumped Mobutu after 1990 looking from then for a new puppet. Belgium used to have control over DRC until that Mobutu took the power in 1965, they tried to come back with Joseph Kabila in 2001 but it didn't work because the influence of USA was to big. Now you got a kind of cold-war in DRC between China and the USA about the control those coltans and other minerals. The USA are furious the way Joseph Kabila gave China the most markets in DRC.

Rwanda isn't supported by Belgium and France. They are supported by the USA and U.K. Btw they are in conflict against France because of the Rwandian genocide, that's also why Paul Kagame decided to make from Rwanda an Anglophone countries, deciding to quit the OIF, but for some strategic reasons they rejoined it last year.
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: Manzambi94 on October 09, 2019, 11:13
Compared to former French-colonies, France doesnt have any control over the DRC. Its only the USA that controls DRC, since its independence in 1960, forcing Belgium to let DRC go, being along with Belgium behind Lumumba's murder, putting Mobutu on power with help OF the CIA and using Mobutu as puppet to fight communism in Central Africa. The same USA dumped Mobutu after 1990 looking from then for a new puppet. Belgium used to have control over DRC until that Mobutu took the power in 1965, they tried to come back with Joseph Kabila in 2001 but it didn't work because the influence of USA was to big. Now you got a kind of cold-war in DRC between China and the USA about the control those coltans and other minerals. The USA are furious the way Joseph Kabila gave China the most markets in DRC.

Rwanda isn't supported by Belgium and France. They are supported by the USA and U.K. Btw they are in conflict against France because of the Rwandian genocide, that's also why Paul Kagame decided to make from Rwanda an Anglophone countries, deciding to quit the OIF, but for some strategic reasons they rejoined it last year.
But why if noth Rwanda and DRC are both control by other countries (actually with USA being the same) Congo is not developed as Rwanda is developing now? I can understand that Comgo is a 2 miliom square kilometer land with almost a 100 milion people but I would aspect at least Kinshasa, Kisanmgani, Mbuji Mayi, Katanga, and other big cities regions to be at the same level or even more developped than Europeam cities. I mean the whole world is controlled by Europe and or America/China but why in Saudi Arabia this leads to the Royal family being the richest in middle east with huge power over muslims and middle easteners while Congi cannot mange to give at least people in their biggest city a good life. If you think about it even our musicians Werra, Fally etc. Are poor in terms of money. Koffi, Wrrra Fally etc. should have last have 500 milion to 1 biliom dollars in revenue if Congo was a functional country. I will never forgive Rwanda killimg Congilese after being the subject of genocide. I guess it is really true that oppresses people once in power become even more mean than their ex oppressors (see even Israelis killing palestinians and shunming whiever disagree with Israel extreme right wing ideology)
Title: Re: Will this become the albumcover of Werra’s Formidable ?
Post by: mvulusi96 on October 09, 2019, 14:46
Rwanda has the role that Zaire used to have in the cold war by controling neighboring countries. Zaire was behind those coups who put Museveni & Habyarimana on power in Uganda and Rwanda. The army of Zaire even helped Habyarimana to stay in power by figthing against Kagame's FPR, forcing them to return back to their base in Uganda. Mobutu also financed and military supported UNITA and FLNA in Angola. Zaire didn't profit from the money USA gave them and their minerals because Mobutu killed the economy with the Zairisation and was only letting his family, clan and the political elite profit from it, also the huge corruption was putting the economy more and more down.

About musicians like Fally,Werrason,etc. not being rich has nothing to do with the politics. Its all about Soneca/Socoda, those tv, bars, radio channel not paying the taxes and piracy being very strong and those people doing being protected. If all that stuff was fixed than they would have been rich like artists coming from Ghana and Nigeria who are protected by the governement and being forced to do matolo, selling songs to donors, touring months long in Europe to survive.

Don't forget that Rwanda is just smal country. Its just the half of the Kongo Central-province, so with the money they make with all minerals coming from Nord Kivu, South Kivu, Maniema and the Ituri-province its very easy to develop their countries.

Dr Congo is to big. The federalism is a better way to govern the country, like Germany, USA, Russia and Nigeria, instead of a central governement in Kinshasa. Because those politicians don't cares what happens in the Equateur-region, Bandundu, province-Oriental and Kasai. They only focus on Kinshasa, Kongo Central and Haut Katanga. But some people are against federalisme because they fear that it can split the country in the future like Yugoslavia. Tshombe and Kasa Vubu were working on a constitution that had to bring federalism in Dr Congo to govern the country after years of war, back in 1964 with "La Constitution de Luluabourg", with the 6 province having a kind of autonomy and Kananga (then called Lualuabourg) having to become the new capital. But the coup of Mobutu blocked it and Mobutu himself was against federalism.