Author Topic: WOULD YOU SAY WMM'S ZENITH IS THE MOST POPULAR SOLO DANCE OF ALL TIME?  (Read 580 times)

CM PRINCE on: May 17, 2020, 17:10

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Even though the sound wasn't up to par you always see people dancing to this on those IG pages or all over social media. You can even hear it at parties, the impact of this was crazy compared to anything else.
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CM PRINCE #1 on: May 17, 2020, 18:45

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I don't know if I'd say it's the best but I'm talking more by popularity.

archos #2 on: May 17, 2020, 19:36

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yes,if we strictly talk about this century no doubt,followed by koffi's olympia
you just raised there how much solo dance is a joke thing these days while it was something you'd wait for in every concert back in the days

CM PRINCE #3 on: May 17, 2020, 20:45

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Yeah Olympia was very good too, What happened to these type of solo dance in concerts?
I remember before in concerts I used to get excited to see what Fally, Bouro in QL and in Maison Mere Ferre, Bill, Baby would do.

JV “Critic” #4 on: May 17, 2020, 21:00

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Even though the sound wasn't up to par you always see people dancing to this on those IG pages or all over social media. You can even hear it at parties, the impact of this was crazy compared to anything else.

Ndombolo Koffi olympia

Manzambi94 #5 on: May 17, 2020, 22:02

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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any

Paysan Congolais #6 on: May 18, 2020, 05:18

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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any

C'mon. So we gon act like Grand Kalle, Franco, Koffi or Pepe Kalle never existed? I mean WMMM did it part but let's not go overboard. In term of influence of the genre in Africa, those guys did more than WMMM.

Manzambi94 #7 on: May 18, 2020, 09:29

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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any

C'mon. So we gon act like Grand Kalle, Franco, Koffi or Pepe Kalle never existed? I mean WMMM did it part but let's not go overboard. In term of influence of the genre in Africa, those guys did more than WMMM.


I am talking bout my generations 90's kids I remember Pepe Kalle having a huge success with La Rumba amd Roger Milla amd also you couldn't have a party without Loi generique but at the same time at least for.Koffi because Pepe Kalle was too old for me to compare him with others, it is rare to see people dancing old.dances of.him and incorporating to everyday life, it is just the truth

BercysFinest98 #8 on: May 18, 2020, 09:56

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yes,if we strictly talk about this century no doubt,followed by koffi's olympia
you just raised there how much solo dance is a joke thing these days while it was something you'd wait for in every concert back in the days
I saw what you did there!

PCGY KASTELLO #9 on: May 18, 2020, 10:27

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Biasness aside, i have watched a lot of Concerts but this one comes on top of the pile.  Preparation was key for the success of this concert. The line up from the guitars, drums( Kakol) , Ali Mbonda, Thierry Synthe to the singers, just top notch.
I remember me and my football team mates would buy each a Jukebox Token for the same part of the second Day entrance and put it on repeat lol .... and that would annoy bar partrons.


WMM Till The End Of Time!

Mukulu #10 on: May 18, 2020, 10:36

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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any

I am of the same generation (early 90s) but maison mère  is not the reason that Africans have respected the Congolese people  musically.  koyimbiko is a very popular dance!  we must not forget that this is the last dance with kisanola where all the groups danced in the Congo, it helped a lot to promote the dance ... it allowed the Ivorians to invent their dance coupe décalé  ..  in France the Congolese who has been much respected is papa wemba, when I was at school, as soon as you said your origins, you were told "papa wemba!" He sang in a pub for ferrero rocher chocolate , he often appeared on TV , Stromae always talked about papa wemba in his interviews or koffi from time to time ... rappers (naza, niska, etc) grew up like us with the K7 à la maison .... often these rappers pay tribute to the artists of that time (damso sampled Jb Mpiana or niska likes to sing the old songs ... TH Solola Bien Loi  ETC or chilly who is a big fan of Kerozene and he  copied his voice by adapting for rap) too bad that Congolese music is a special world, all of its Franco Belgian artists dream of making a feat with werra etc but the Congolese organization ... koffi has just understood, he is enjoying  to make duets with as many rappers as possible

Manzambi94 #11 on: May 18, 2020, 11:32

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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any

I am of the same generation (early 90s) but maison mère  is not the reason that Africans have respected the Congolese people  musically.  koyimbiko is a very popular dance!  we must not forget that this is the last dance with kisanola where all the groups danced in the Congo, it helped a lot to promote the dance ... it allowed the Ivorians to invent their dance coupe décalé  ..  in France the Congolese who has been much respected is papa wemba, when I was at school, as soon as you said your origins, you were told "papa wemba!" He sang in a pub for ferrero rocher chocolate , he often appeared on TV , Stromae always talked about papa wemba in his interviews or koffi from time to time ... rappers (naza, niska, etc) grew up like us with the K7 à la maison .... often these rappers pay tribute to the artists of that time (damso sampled Jb Mpiana or niska likes to sing the old songs ... TH Solola Bien Loi  ETC or chilly who is a big fan of Kerozene and he  copied his voice by adapting for rap) too bad that Congolese music is a special world, all of its Franco Belgian artists dream of making a feat with werra etc but the Congolese organization ... koffi has just understood, he is enjoying  to make duets with as many rappers as possible

Brooooooooo I totally forgot Kisanolaaaa maaaan that dance was top notch with all the group incorporating in their generique. Yes Papa Wemba is also a big influence but as I said except for the Album with Thierry Mogratana and AlPatshino


This one





Fula Ngenge also I remember that at parties that song was so loved by the older generation



The problem about featuring is that outside of Fally and Koffi Congolese leaders do not understand the fact of expanding the brand globally and I don't think they fully realize the influemce they have take Werra for example he could live his days only from donations by people who have been inspired by him and build something like a school or a bank to help young people (since music is not his only interest) to have jobs and have a life, make a feature album with Naza, KeBlack, Maitre Gims, Niska, Stromae, Shay, Youssoupha and JayMaxVi but if you check Maison Mere is a group where jealousy and gossiping became the norm and a group that has no structure if Diego, Sarah Solo, Makaba even Kakol go one year without playing they will be broke. And with leader with that mentality of stingyness and not investing how do you think they will have the same clarity Fally and Koffi have in searching France and Belgium for a bigger audience, JB the same but JB is even lazier than Werra he is like snorlax, if JB put his enormous talent on work instead of living off of his money from Abed Achour things will be different, for example let's take Abed Achour he is rich ok? And he is the one who helped to make Innoss'B Yo Pe go strong in Arab countries. Arab people have a population of 400 milion people and think how much money yo could get by making a tour on Arab countries? And working with Arab artists

The problem of our leader is the problem of Congo greediness and too many yes man who will say exactly what you want to hear instead of people with hard critical thinking. Ask yourself why when Celeo, Bill, Ferre and all those golden generation guys were in Wenge Maison Mere was prospering. Because they had the balls to say whem things weren't right

Paysan Congolais #12 on: May 20, 2020, 05:45

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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any

C'mon. So we gon act like Grand Kalle, Franco, Koffi or Pepe Kalle never existed? I mean WMMM did it part but let's not go overboard. In term of influence of the genre in Africa, those guys did more than WMMM.


I am talking bout my generations 90's kids I remember Pepe Kalle having a huge success with La Rumba amd Roger Milla amd also you couldn't have a party without Loi generique but at the same time at least for.Koffi because Pepe Kalle was too old for me to compare him with others, it is rare to see people dancing old.dances of.him and incorporating to everyday life, it is just the truth

What you said about your generation is correct but you can't say that Werra is the reason African people respect congolese music. It's not true. Werra had his success in african countries, but that's it. He's not the reason the genre is respected. The genre been respected since Grand Kalle. Independence Cha Cha was played all over Africa.

Congolese music has always been respected in Africa; it has nothing to do with Werra. Just before Werra, Defao had Africa on fire.

This is like someone in 20 years saying that Fally is the reason congolese music is respected in Africa. It will be false.



Kizito #13 on: May 20, 2020, 06:59

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Maison Mere is the reason why African people worldwide know how to dance Ko Yimbi Ko and have huge respect for Congolese people. Maison Mere was more for youngsters and young ladies who had their favourite guy to pick from Koffi and QL back in the days were for oldies and sex related topic so that is why Wenge had the best popular solo dance of all time I was checking a snapchat friend and there was a Meme of Celeo dancing allowing to her dancing after she finished work. Vegedream the guy who made the world cup song who got extremly popular have shown multuple times doing the KoYimbi Ko Dance, Naza, KeBlack even Maitre Gims, Niska, Algerino and many many other French guys of African origin (not only Congolese) have paid hommage to Wenge. Even Stromae the guy who became the most known French speaking artist of his time paid hommage to Congolese sapeur. Why that? Maison Mere. What dances do you see people doing of Koffi days after? Any

I partly Agree and partly disagree with you, I don't believe that Werra was doing well in 2000s because Celeo and Co were criticising him. No, it is because he was young, hungry and aggressive, and he got the best out of his band. And that is normal with all human beings, their productive times in music are 20s to 40s. Mariah Carey, Celine Dione, Boyz to men have all gone into oblivion. And Werra is now just doing Music to keep himself busy and because it is his job, the same can be said to JB Mpiana.

I am of the same generation (early 90s) but maison mère  is not the reason that Africans have respected the Congolese people  musically.  koyimbiko is a very popular dance!  we must not forget that this is the last dance with kisanola where all the groups danced in the Congo, it helped a lot to promote the dance ... it allowed the Ivorians to invent their dance coupe décalé  ..  in France the Congolese who has been much respected is papa wemba, when I was at school, as soon as you said your origins, you were told "papa wemba!" He sang in a pub for ferrero rocher chocolate , he often appeared on TV , Stromae always talked about papa wemba in his interviews or koffi from time to time ... rappers (naza, niska, etc) grew up like us with the K7 à la maison .... often these rappers pay tribute to the artists of that time (damso sampled Jb Mpiana or niska likes to sing the old songs ... TH Solola Bien Loi  ETC or chilly who is a big fan of Kerozene and he  copied his voice by adapting for rap) too bad that Congolese music is a special world, all of its Franco Belgian artists dream of making a feat with werra etc but the Congolese organization ... koffi has just understood, he is enjoying  to make duets with as many rappers as possible

Brooooooooo I totally forgot Kisanolaaaa maaaan that dance was top notch with all the group incorporating in their generique. Yes Papa Wemba is also a big influence but as I said except for the Album with Thierry Mogratana and AlPatshino


This one





Fula Ngenge also I remember that at parties that song was so loved by the older generation



The problem about featuring is that outside of Fally and Koffi Congolese leaders do not understand the fact of expanding the brand globally and I don't think they fully realize the influemce they have take Werra for example he could live his days only from donations by people who have been inspired by him and build something like a school or a bank to help young people (since music is not his only interest) to have jobs and have a life, make a feature album with Naza, KeBlack, Maitre Gims, Niska, Stromae, Shay, Youssoupha and JayMaxVi but if you check Maison Mere is a group where jealousy and gossiping became the norm and a group that has no structure if Diego, Sarah Solo, Makaba even Kakol go one year without playing they will be broke. And with leader with that mentality of stingyness and not investing how do you think they will have the same clarity Fally and Koffi have in searching France and Belgium for a bigger audience, JB the same but JB is even lazier than Werra he is like snorlax, if JB put his enormous talent on work instead of living off of his money from Abed Achour things will be different, for example let's take Abed Achour he is rich ok? And he is the one who helped to make Innoss'B Yo Pe go strong in Arab countries. Arab people have a population of 400 milion people and think how much money yo could get by making a tour on Arab countries? And working with Arab artists

The problem of our leader is the problem of Congo greediness and too many yes man who will say exactly what you want to hear instead of people with hard critical thinking. Ask yourself why when Celeo, Bill, Ferre and all those golden generation guys were in Wenge Maison Mere was prospering. Because they had the balls to say whem things weren't right

Petit bercy #14 on: May 21, 2020, 00:25

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Yes that double zenith has built a whole generation of kids and teens who follow Congolese music , the kids and teens active on twitter and and instagram