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Every fay another top 5 thread, kiekie. This is a very subjective subject
This coronavirus got me making new topics every day bo limbisa sa nga

I’m joking my bro; if it’s not Corona, the boredom will kill us in 2020 with all this quarantine
Yea I figured, what do you think of my list? even though it's subjective

Very solid list - I would add 3 more people - Djo Mpoyi RIP (the way he sings with such emotion gets me every time), Babia Chokoro (RIP)... Also King Kester Emeneya (RIP) - the way he perfectly controlled his voice live or in studio is still something I can't quite believe.

Using your list as a basis; also in no particular order. So sad that 5 of the 8 have passed; Josky is also not in good heath anymore
1. Josky
2. Pepe Kalle
3. Carlyto Lassa
4. Madilu
5. Ferre
6. Djo Mpoyi
7. Babia
8. King Kester

I know I've forgotten someone having a mental block, I know one of you guys will list names that make that remind me

Females -
1. Mbilia Bel
2. Mpongo Love
3. Abeti Masikini
4. Deesse Mukangi
5. Barbara Kanam

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Koffi Olomide (not for Congo only Africa)

1) Salif Keita
2) Koffi Olomide
3) Yousou
4) Hugh Masekela

Eh, my bro. Don't get carried away.... by global album sales for the biggest legends still alive (over 20 year career for each) it's more:

1) Yossou N'Dour
2) Salif Keita
3) Baaba Mal
4) Alpha Blondy
5) Mory Kante
6) Tiken Jah Fakoly
7) Oumou Sangare


Koffi and Wemba may or many not be in the 8-10 ranking by total sales, but those guys listed above have millions upon millions of a multi-national following.

Masekela (RIP) is obviously one of African's greatest legends, but is not top 10. The late Manu Dibango (RIP) is a comparable jazz legend
Wow this list is eye opening to me our "stars" aren't actually stars like they proclaim because those artist you listed have impressive accolades

Angelique Kidjo is also on this top 10 list. She’s a multiple Grammy winner and has performed some of the greatest soundtracks for huge movies. A few other of the artists mentioned have also won Grammy’s

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Every fay another top 5 thread, kiekie. This is a very subjective subject
This coronavirus got me making new topics every day bo limbisa sa nga

I’m joking my bro; if it’s not Corona, the boredom will kill us in 2020 with all this quarantine

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Every day another top 5 thread, kiekie. This is a very subjective subject

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These guys already have a contract with Primus? Would I be right to say Bébé Retou is the most happening producer/promoter in the Congo?

Lol. Zaparo should try out singing in their upcoming album. Nice to see artists doing their bit  about sensitizing the public on this pandemic.

Yeah, Bebert Etou is playing no games. Reminds me of Ferrol Ngassaki back in the day. Salute to him

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This comment cracks me up


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Koffi Olomide (not for Congo only Africa)

1) Salif Keita
2) Koffi Olomide
3) Yousou
4) Hugh Masekela

Eh, my bro. Don't get carried away.... by global album sales for the biggest legends still alive (over 20 year career for each) it's more:

1) Yossou N'Dour
2) Salif Keita
3) Baaba Mal
4) Alpha Blondy
5) Mory Kante
6) Tiken Jah Fakoly
7) Oumou Sangare


Koffi and Wemba may or many not be in the 8-10 ranking by total sales, but those guys listed above have millions upon millions of a multi-national following.

Masekela (RIP) is obviously one of African's greatest legends, but is not top 10. The late Manu Dibango (RIP) is a comparable jazz legend
come one .......why is it that after being given the admission to the next floor people tend to imagine what is still above?!.... the question here was all about the four. Lets say may take is Koffi, then the next closest thing should be why.

Relax.... ndeko @Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda introduced the discussion of biggest star in Africa rather than Congo, I responded with the artist who are biggest in Africa by popularity and album sales

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What exactly do you find embarrassing about this? This is normal showbiz stuff

He’s being grabbed off stage completely against his will and being treated like a child like Koffi. This is embarrassing anyway you slice it for someone as big he is now

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More so that that English song abomination. Kiekie, “tika mwana, tika mwana” - Koffi adding insult to injury kiekie  ;D
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-X-Bt-l_ei/?igshid=1bwllytdgck05

I’m shocked that a page like VOC on Fally payroll posted it

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YES. Here in London everyone was playing the CD and the VHS I saw it every house hold I went to.

Bro, every household had the VHS. It wasn’t even something for visitors to steal because they already had a copy

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I have never experienced Papa Wemba's prime so I can't judge him based on what he had done since I wasn't even born when he had success but I can say I love his Fula Ngenge A La Une Prohect and the joint AlPatshino made with Bill Clinton between Werra JB and Koffi well international Koffi Nationally Werrason the whole Congo knew him while JB I don't know I hadn't lived Titanic and TH success to judge him I do like his recent work but it seems that he have lost interest to push himself over the top

JB had many chances to become an international superstar in his prime, but in most cases his camp advised against it. We can go into detail with our brothers, but it’s really a tragedy

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Are we going off sales/popularity or actual quality of music/albums?
Sales/popularity, but the aforementioned top artists have put out some of the best crafted albums you will hear.

Personally, I’d take TH, V12, Kibuisa, Fula Ngenge, etc over nearly everything, but the albums are not to outsider’s taste because they don’t understand the genre

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Congolese Music / Re: KOFFI OLOMIDE- ASSASSAIN (New Song)
« on: March 30, 2020, 23:42 »
Wow the voice is getting worse it feels like TPains voice towards the end.
Happy Mama Cindy is absent for once...and ZERO mabanga..discordance intje instruments at the end....a song to listen once or twice

It’s really hard for me to see how he can headline a U Arena concert in 2020 or 2021 without heavy vocal intervention of a band. Though it’s expected, his voice is a shell of it’s former self.

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Yes bro, but the industry of Congolese music had the misadvantage to not have big production company and therefore no legal and actual count of CD's sales.

If i'm not mistaken, all the artists you quotted had the advantage to be in big production compagny and have their sales counted well. I think if Congolese musician in 80s and 90s had most of their albums published by "serious" company, quickly it would go up in millions of "legal" sales and would have exceeded at least Tiken Jah Fakoly, Oumou Sangare and Mory Kante...

Correct all those artists benefits from being signed to the very best record label - Nonesuch, Warner, Universal, Sony, Island/Mango, etc. With the exception of Tiken Jah and Alpha Blondy, all those artists were pure to their heritage as well.

Sono was a very good African label in the 90’s, but imagine if Koffi (who turned down huge offers to remain loyal) and Wemba (same case except for his Real World albums, which were huge)) signed to above labels and had the same level of promotion?

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Koffi Olomide (not for Congo only Africa)

1) Salif Keita
2) Koffi Olomide
3) Yousou
4) Hugh Masekela

Eh, my bro. Don't get carried away.... by global album sales for the biggest legends still alive (over 20 year career for each) it's more:

1) Yossou N'Dour
2) Salif Keita
3) Baaba Mal
4) Alpha Blondy
5) Mory Kante
6) Tiken Jah Fakoly
7) Oumou Sangare


Koffi and Wemba may or many not be in the 8-10 ranking by total sales, but those guys listed above have millions upon millions of a multi-national following.

Masekela (RIP) is obviously one of African's greatest legends, but is not top 10. The late Manu Dibango (RIP) is a comparable jazz legend

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