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Ya Biso Moko was a offical album because you also had the songs where Wemba sang and did mabanga. Also Wemba's featuring with Madilu System (RIP) on Plus Cinq.  At the same time this was Didier Milla's song


Bendoson was his favorite at the time so he gave him lots of space for this album. The one time it happened for a Ecrita member since later he had his issues with Reddy & Stino


The album is one of my favorites, so underrated. Great compositions and sound. It's also the first album where a young Lenny Bidens played a small role in production

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So what happened to Bendo Son? Did he sign to Koffi at some point or was I tripping ? And while on the subject of Viva/Nouvelle Ecriture, i had heard Guyguy Fall from Extra went to Viva at some point but was never able to find any songs

Yeah Bendson was in QL for like 5 mins in 1999 for the purpose on pissing Wemba off, which he wasn't interested in doing . He didn't fit so went to create his own group Nouvelle Ecriture de l'an 2000 with other ex Ecrita members, which failed causing him to return to Ecrita in time for Somo Trop. Ramazani and Christian na Nzenze went to Quartier latin




Guy Guy Fall was in Viva Tendance from 2003-05. He was embarrassed his solo career didn't work but he swallowed his pride, which is a bit hard to believe knowing his temper

Hear him at (2:50). Also Serge Mabiala at (1:48)

Also see him Guy Guy Fall here:

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Congolese Music / Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLAISE BULA INGENIEUR
« on: April 21, 2018, 23:52 »
Damn, 52... where has time gone. Happy birthday Celebu, Pondération 8

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Congolese Music / Re: Top 15 Generiques From The Last 3 Years
« on: April 21, 2018, 21:30 »
Lol good luck  ;D i think you’d be better off doing it for rumbas lol

Kiekie, I know right? I can only name like 4 or 5 memorable generiques from the last 5 years off hand.

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I often heard that Naomie was written by the late Max Mongali "Idi Mane".

Wow, I would've never guessed. RIP to the legend

So sad that they didn't record the videoclips anymore of Wake Up, after that the conflicts started already before that the album was released. With Papa Wemba saying "casse toi pauvre con" and calling him a businessman, that he isn't a real artist, etc. All because that he didn't want to share the mabanga money he got from his friends and donors with Wemba. While Wemba sunged his friends and donors for free. With the conflict becoming worser after the release of the album, due to their common friends who were saying things who didn't have sens, but both artists still becoming angry about it. For example the thing Koffi said in Moussoukou-Soukou "pona kokanga kipungu-pungu, il faut kotia soyi " with Wemba claiming that he was mocking him.


I remember Maika Munan complaing in a interview 2 years ago about some artists being credited in Wake Up who didn't even participate in the recordings.


I found it interesting that in many songs, Koffi was shouting out Wemba's friends while Wemba was shouting out Koffi's friends. Does that mean that all mabanga money went straight to Koffi. Or was that Coco Rubenga's job?

I guess after the immediate fall out after release, neither party cared about giving proper credits, full clips, that fabled Wake Up concert and etc. They acted that they didn't even release that album for a while.

Koffi went straight to preparation for Ultimatum, Loi, and that very long tour Europe/Africa he had in 1997. Wemba shifted to preparation for his two first Nouvelle Ecriture albums (Nouvelle Ecriture, Dans L', and also overseeing "Ya Biso Moko").

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@Matebu

Thanks for the info, I had no idea about Makaba's involvement was so signficant on Wake Up! Can you imagine if Pepe Kalle was able to participate? That would of been fantastic!

Why was Koffi resistant to Alain Makaba receiving proper credits for the album Wake Up? I feel like had the trio been credited, the album would of recieved more succces due to the prior discography of everyone involved.

I meant Pepe Kalle participating on Pile ou Face. A rule for Wake Up was that other stars were not permited. Makaba being a big part of the trio would've compromised their effort to take attention away from Wenge who were on fire with Les Angles Adorables 1/2 and the build up to Pentagone release.

The problem with Wake Up is that people were not properly credited all over for doing certain things. All the songs are are listed as being composed by either Wemba or Koffi, which is not really the case upon investigation

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@Matebu

I was really impressed by this album, it was certainly ahead of it's time!

I thought Wenge Musica had reconciled with Sadam Hussien with Tempete de Desert from the 1994 album Anges Adorables, whay happened in 1995 that upset Mobutu so much to obstruct their careers in Kinshasa?

How did the Alain Makaba get involved in the Wake Up project with Koffi and Wemba? What songs did he play guitar on?

I believe what drove him was the fact that he was settled in Europe full time while Wenge BCBG 4x4 was still based in Kin, so this album was of financial necessity. It’s big  success was not really anticipated… it was to keep SonoDisc happy and recorded quickly, so some of the intended feature singers did not make it. Pepe Kalle had already to Kin after his Europe tour.

Wake Up was supposed to a trio-project Koffi-Wemba-Makaba, but Koffi wasn’t having that happen so he was demoted. The funny thing is that the album was created to take attention away from Wenge 4x4 and here you have a founder assisting.

The two songs where he’s credited on Wake Up playing Solo.
- Zaintoin
- Esakola
Makaba has a signature and intricate sound with his Steinberger M series guitar, so you can tell it's him playing. This goes for all his credited work

Caen Madoka, Beniko, Maika Munan, Do Akongo, & Yves Ndjock did the lion’s share of the work on guitars.

He’s not credited for it, but I know he assisted with arrangement. It was predominantly Philphe Guez in that department on synthesizer heavy songs - Avion (composer Do Akongo), Litio ya Calendrier (Colombani Wasenga), Maryama (Composer: Philphe Guez/Koffi), Esakola (Wemba?), Wake Up (Colombani Wasenga), Moussoukou-Soukou (Koffi)


The acoustic songs were handled by Maika Munan, Do Akongo, & Beniko
- Dodo (Maika Munan), Naomie (composer Koffi? or was there a ghostwriter?), Mi Amor (Koffi)

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For me it would Kisanola and the dance that dance they did in Malewa, Bicarbonate and Ferre's QEDT. That Nkila Kizengi dance should never ever be brought back.

Neither should Bicarbonate (inlcuding Oriengo & Stanky leggy), which was a huge flop in Kin summer 2009. People only cared about Qui est Derriere toi generique & Techno Malewa then

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This man had done a lot for your club, have to show more respect.

lol, go to Emirates Stadium and tell those passionate fans. all my Arsenal fans were happy yesterday

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What do you mean sticking true to his roots because a lot of African athletes who are millionaires still are very prideful of their culture.

Sure, to varying degrees. I just wanted to highlight Serge because on his pages he's always promoting and shouting out Fally/Werra etc, showing his Western fans what Congolese food and is fashion, etc. He's also the most famous central African figure in USA & Canada right now with how well he's playing in the playoffs.

Did you watch the second documentary? If so you'd understand his passion for his Congo/DRC heritage and giving back; even telling his story of his daughter his parents kept a secret so he can make to Spain to play professional basketball.

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lol, I'd say anything Brigade since he's arguably the biggest weed head of all the artists


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The protoype for what would become the modern generique, which has been a pillar for the genre for the past 20 years. It was also the first time a Congolese artist used sampling in a record like a DJ on 1's and 2's, which gave it a techno sound.

Biggest African dance record of 1995... and most famous Zong-zing album, ever? But really it was created after they (Alain) started struggling finacially due to Mobutu's banning of performances back in Kin. Afterwards he put his focus on the Wake Up project and started slowly drifting from Wenge

I remember when I was told it was Titina animating I was shocked. "L'artist Polyvalent" - he is animating, on drums, bass, and accompanying guitar. He also did an amazing job with the shakers you hear from start to finish



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The popular dance "Tchakou Libondas" by Foumba & Patty Libondas. The dance was so hot, King Kester brought them and showcased them at Zenith 2001. Victoria Eleison was leading the way for new dances at that point, since every other band used that dance and Kiwazenza after then



Also, the hilarious banned dance Nkila Mongroso by Dr. Zimbabwe. Thierry Mongratana was beast with the mi-solo

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And this same guy wants to be president of drc ... Smfh...really?

Yeah, what a joke. After Youssou N’dour tried, then Trump, and George Weah all ran for president entertainers are all motivated to run despite their pasts good/bad

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