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Who will follow him on the streets ? He doesn't have the charisma Marie Paul had back in the days when he was giving Wenge 4x4 on his own a hard time. Eeeh Marie Paul Roi Pele 1000 buts with his long hair and taking that soccer-ball  with him and then all those people following him in a bizarre way. Mann that was not normal anymore. So crazy how that power ended. Politicians and musicians were using him to fill stadiums and open-air places. Their a moment that concertpromoters didn't knew where to let peform him, because there were always to much people following. Back in 1998 when ADFL organised that "Tokufa pona Congo-meeting" at Stade des Martyrs, the stadium was already filled, but Marie Paul entering made the stadium being filled also on the field, on the moment that Werrason started already dancing on the generique of Intervention Rapide. All Wenge 4x4 musicans can say what Marie Paul did to them during that concert at Nsele back in 1993. Just to say how powerful Marie Paul was. Miel doesn't also have that charisma Le Phenomene had. Le Vieux l'An 200, Mbonge, Nkoy, pffff azo sakana. Don't also forget that Werrason semented a big fanbase during Wenge 4x4 and the time before Intervention Rapide.

Miel doesn't have a big fanbase or a song that had a huge succes before leaving Maison Mere, like Fally, Ferre and co did. That era of people following blindly pastors, traditional wrestlers, politicians and bandleaders who had/have that power is over. A big secret to that is that you have to convince Bana Tshangu, people living in Kisenso, Malueka, Barumbu, Kingabwa, Ngiri-Ngiri, Kasa-Vubu, Lingwala, Ngaba, Matete & Lemba and those dangerous gangs and the shegues, like Marie Paul & Werrason used to do to be more popular then their rivals (Wenge 4x4 & JB) who were more close to the elite. Papa Wemba had also the same tactic, hence why he was like the chief of those shegues, just before Werrason stole him that role. Sam Tshintu started also to  follow that path, by becoming close to those shegues and gangs, but that ngulu-affaire ruined everything. I don't think that Miel can convice those people. We are in the days that people in Kinshasa doesn't pay alot attention on music anymore, like they used to do with them following musicians for free. If you want to succeed easily in the Congolese music-scene, then you have to be close to girls and have them behind you. Ask Nyoka Longo, Koffi Olomide & Lita Bembo and they will explain it.

If that nkisi will work for Miel, then he has to profit from that occassion to release classic albums in those 10 years they gave him. Look at how people forgot Marie Paul, just because he didn't had the chance to release classic-albums and alot of unforgettable songs. He started to do that on the moment when his succes started to end. Werrason also. After Temoinage or let say after Alerte Generale he didn't gave 100% anymore like he used to do when Bill, Ferre were around with him more focusing in promoting the new singers instead of focusing on himself, releasing classic albums and classic songs, while he could have easily step his level as a legend up by releasing every 2 years unforgettle solo-albums, like his collegue Koffi used to do in the 90's and profiting from the succes he had, having masses of people following on the street and Bana Tshangu being behind him. If that concert-ban didn't take place in Europe, then I don't think that Werra's impact would have go down so quickly.

kiekie, ndeko Mvulusi turning threads into history sessions. Mysticism is the bane of progress in Congolese society, and will seemingly always be, more so (dark/insidiously) than other African cultures.

I love my culture, but our values as a whole are often misguided and shortsighted. From the music & political leaders alll the way down to the chégues

As a fan of his work, I have to say this is quite subpar compared to his other rhumbas. His voice isn't like before - and on top of that he's using autotune.

Acoustics are nice, which is something he always delivers on.

Going to have to unfollow him IG for sometime, kiekie. The man blows up my feed reposting every single submission for his hashtag challenges whenever he releases something

If this generique turn out to be a banger, then y'all know Fally fans are going to crucify Ferre with that "Troooop D'advance" nonsense talk. It's almost a lose-lose situation for those who strive to be impartial fans

lol, Rond Point...

This is a sign that it isn't going well with Congolese music, everybody wants to quit music to become a politician, knowing that they will be paid well. I'm 100% sure they will not serve the Congolese population, but just be corrupt like those who were voted in 2006 & 2011, flirting underaged and young girls, sending kuluna's to beat people who are against them and build/buy villa's. The musicians of Wenge Maison Mere aren't the same anymore (except Nicodem), since that there aren't concerts anymore in Europe. They are all broke, while in the past they were throwing money, driving in expensive cars, stealing girls from other boys, making war with rivals of other bands by buying alot of champagne in the club (Heritier was the master in that back in 2010).

That near million dollar Chicago house Werra bought in cash last year might be costing him. Other than that, Werra is an infamously frugal person compared to other leaders - like he has no serious interest in luxury cars

(Not implying that this is the sole reason)

Now this is weird  :D

Mère Cindy in the cut too

He really wasn’t born on Christmas, kiekie... the urban legend is false. I guess why not... so many donors and ex-staff have become politicians

On a serious note, I think this experience is good for Fally's growth. We've all been through humbling moments that changed our outlook on things. Black Americans care less about African culture (Black Panther the big exception) than many white Americans - my observation from living here for some time.

Wemba went through a similar sort of thing when his "world" audience disappeared a while after Emotion, and then he subsequently went back to focusing on authentic Congolese music and having his poplarity grow when he adapted to the dance era with Ecrita.

I've also notice Fally chilling out on the whole greatest, "GOAT", King, etc rhetoric that peeved some of us last year

So according Sankara, Werra is the only and last star of Congo... confirmé by Michael Jackson himself  ;D ;D

lol, he’s got the prison weight still


Looks like he is enjoying it himself .lol they really need to mix it well. We never know it might be a big hit.  Especially if its accompanied with a crazy dance.. Just saying

lol, that remix bangs

Thank you for taking the time to put this highly infomative thread together. Looking forward to part 2

Mood... no stressing myself trying to become an American  ;D

kidding of course. Don't take it personal

This is disrespectful and just cringe they could've at least pretended to take pics lol

kiekie, they said all said "f that, I gotta save space on my SD card"

Thing is he'd be treated as royalty at any African awards show. He's out of his element here

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