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Congolese Music / I NEED NEW MUSIC
« on: September 18, 2017, 08:12 »
I think I nave downloaded every congolese song in the web band on the podcast world so I ask Yii if Yii nave sone songs of the level of Lokolo to feed me

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY IPUPA IS CONVINCED HE'S "THE GREATEST"
« on: September 17, 2017, 23:14 »
LOL

his fans send him this art and he posts it. if he doesn't promote himself in this way who else will?? he totally gets the social media thing and he's using it well. i did have to chuckle when i saw the one that said 'the greatest'. its all marketing lol
He is way too much full of himself lately this is why he doesn't even try hard on his songs his fan will support him no matter how bad the quality of the music is and the other thing is that it seems like he is the only guy doing things all the people he has in his Orchestra are treated like employees who only do work but don't need recognition, that's why Alvarito and Gattuso left I would be pissed after years of serving Fally to see my songs not promoted and being punished even though I made a lot for your career

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY IPUPA IS CONVINCED HE'S "THE GREATEST"
« on: September 17, 2017, 23:10 »
I am objective, I gave you a list of the few African artist of this generation who really got well the crossover thing and Fally simply failed at it  in USA and at the same time I have a lot of Fally's songs on my phone I'm rotation, but I am honest too about his results I said in a post the last month that Fally is really starting to taking over in France but he needs to do a lot of work to be known worldwide and for Arsenal mmmm I will not say anything I don't want to argue too


Manzambi I'm not even gonna argue with you arsenal had classic rhumba's if fally isn't known in America then is anyone from his generation known over there too he's trying to cross over there to make congolese music more popular not just him but heritier too and ferre but fally goes the extra so just give the guy a bit of a break he does try and we can all agree he's not greatest to me I've gotta say it's koffi to be honest



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Congolese Music / Re: LOL, NOUVELLE DANSE "MA'PIANA PIA"
« on: September 17, 2017, 21:59 »
there is a dj in kinshasa who sung on this beat and that song was a big hit in Kinshasa along with Pakadjuma and Danse Ya Bangala, but i forgot the title.
Pakadjuma is being very popular in the Atalaku world too, in Lokolo and in some animations rejected by JB by Ben Laden the Pakadjuma and the prostitute subject is very present

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY IPUPA IS CONVINCED HE'S "THE GREATEST"
« on: September 17, 2017, 21:55 »
CM PRINCE let's talk serious OK? If you are known in America it means to be like Wizkid the guy who did the feat with Drake or Sarkodie who went to the Cypher or the P-Square who signed for Akon's label, that is being known some nominations in the BET awards for best African male artist without winning any price is not being known, I have seen footage of his concert in USA people were at the phones not even interested to what the stage was offering, typical reaction of a crowd who really doesn't know the guy and waits to the next star coming in few words he was an opener and how can an opener be at the center of the attention of Michael Jackson? Fally has done great things for Congolese music but after Droit Chemin he didn't produce anything good in level of classic in terms of Rumba in his albums he does great generique and we can all agree but you must combinate it with legend rbas, even Heritier with his first album got way better Rumbas than Fally




 
What wemba, koffi , kester , jb , werra  ferre, reddy , wazekwa  have dont that fally has not done or even surpassed. Give me answer and will prove al of you wrong .
Y'all just need to chill. The man said he is the greatest,  just take it the way it is. No one said a thing when koffi called himself  the boss of the congolaise music, or jb for calling himself the Marshall or werra for being the king of the congolese music or so on. Why y'all need to scratch yourself like monkey when it comes to fally. The man said he is the greatest.. please let it be. Its his opinion. The man fight for his career to be remembered and be respected as a congolese artist , y'all should be proud.. unluckily  MJ has passed away,  he  probably  have dont a feat with mwana bandal.. yes i said it  baaammm , now shoot me .. lol
Go home you are clearly drunk, if MJ was alive I don't think he will anywhere look from no angle at Fally the only American artist who played attention to Fally is R. Kelly since Fally  has admiration for him, but if you ask Americans who is Fally everybody will answer wtf he is
lol you've forgotten about Olivia from g unit he also did an acoustic with Antonique smith  and was rumoured to be doing something with usher and drake a few years ago since they know who he is

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Congolese Music / Re: LOL, NOUVELLE DANSE "MA'PIANA PIA"
« on: September 17, 2017, 18:47 »
The guy animating is still a better animator than Diego lol

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY IPUPA IS CONVINCED HE'S "THE GREATEST"
« on: September 17, 2017, 18:45 »
What wemba, koffi , kester , jb , werra  ferre, reddy , wazekwa  have dont that fally has not done or even surpassed. Give me answer and will prove al of you wrong .
Y'all just need to chill. The man said he is the greatest,  just take it the way it is. No one said a thing when koffi called himself  the boss of the congolaise music, or jb for calling himself the Marshall or werra for being the king of the congolese music or so on. Why y'all need to scratch yourself like monkey when it comes to fally. The man said he is the greatest.. please let it be. Its his opinion. The man fight for his career to be remembered and be respected as a congolese artist , y'all should be proud.. unluckily  MJ has passed away,  he  probably  have dont a feat with mwana bandal.. yes i said it  baaammm , now shoot me .. lol
Go home you are clearly drunk, if MJ was alive I don't think he will anywhere look from no angle at Fally the only American artist who played attention to Fally is R. Kelly since Fally  has admiration for him, but if you ask Americans who is Fally everybody will answer wtf he is

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Congolese Music / Re: LEADER ISSUES
« on: September 17, 2017, 17:27 »
yes but i was always frozen out because i was clearly not a yes man, so it ended up being the leader and me being mates or pîre vieux pire petit outside music
when i talked about  the "europe" part it was kinda personal lol it even happened once that i got people sent to beat because i had a plan which would drag away one artist from the system and act like a proper professional artist the way it is here
that system is how many of them staff guys make their living or even came to europe for some so when somebody threatens the advantages they get through that they go hard on that person
another thing which did not help my case lol is that unlike most i was refusing to commit to kindoki or motivate artist to do it and i was not there  to bring them girls
you know in every concert there is a section of guys dedicated to that, picking girls in the crowd or those on stage who came to give money and they are in charge of getting numbers and bringing them to the boss
 the more they do it the more they are taken to europe and so on

Wow that's amazing both the good side of being in the staff and the bad it must be a great experience

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Congolese Music / Re: LEADER ISSUES
« on: September 17, 2017, 17:17 »
Lol I meant the guy who sang like Emeneya with the blonde little dreads which is the ghost songwriter behind a lot of Extra's song in the Etat Major and Obligatoire period with his song begin automatically assigned to Roga Roga the guy tried to went solo but got blocked by Roga Roga and anyway yes being a European man with Angolan/ Congolese origin I see some things that pushes way back our music behind in fact Congolese people here who are grown with European system like Awilo or Koffi or even Fally for the past and Maître Gims and Niska for the present are making a lot of success, unlike Congolese music which even though it got Fally and Koffi who are very known outside DRC there are no way close in the million or sometimes billion views we are used to see by huge artisr



I have noticed that in many stories of Congolese musicians there is a pattern who repeat his self, everytime someone goes solo basically starts to fire or kick away all the people that worked with him, except for Fally, Heritier, Robinio, and Brigade which are considered the "good guys" and the one who basically have the most shy employees, and Koffi who of course can't be put here since he has been a leader since ages, the guys who had multiple leader system at one time they decide to kick all the guys who are a threat to them even though the guys there don't even think or want to be leader.
Examples?



Werrason and Adolphe Dominguez:
In the Solola Bien project they were together and even though Dominguez even though was effectively a secind leader wasn't really respected by the members under the order of Werra  who feared to loose the leadership in fact after Solola Bien Adolphe Dominguez just left and disappeared from the radar of valuable Congolese musicians.


JB Mpiana & Mboka Liya
Since the departure of Blaise Bula and Alain Makaba JB was very anxious to proof he was the best between him and Werra so he released Titanic, even though Mboka Libya got a song, and got some very important influence under the new youngs Genta and Kaludji, JB treated him like shit by refusing to pay him while he was giving very good money to his "enfant Cherie" Seguin, Genta, Tutu Caludji, emo's favorite Kibens, making Mboka Liya runaway from Werra then tried to got solo byt never got success since every musician he had was "stolen" by JB


Extra Musica original formation (Herman Ngassaki, Arafat, Doudou Copa, Oxygen, Papy Bastin & Jah, Sonor & Espe Bass) & Roga Roga
Extra Musica is the only collective group left in Congo to be considered relevant, but his formation has changed, created originally by a group of church coral singing friends and then gaining success with their stunning generiques (Amnistie Shalai, Etat Major) at a certain point in the period of Obbligatoire since Sorcellerie/Kindoki Roga Roga leadership desires basically made erase all the work of his colleagues by acting harder on the colleagues since he took the full leadership only Sonor & Espe Bass left, the thing that makes you feel the change is the Mabanga's usually it was Oxygen, Doudoi Copa, Arafat, Kila Mbongo, Herman and so on, but now Roga leadership got the best of him the decision of making Roga singing was the worst decision Extra Musica ever took since now Extra Musica has became a very monotonous Rumba and Generique group there are a lot of groups came out from Extra Musica, the Doudou Copa's one is the one who is delivering the best music


And then the last one Fabregas
Fabregas & Ibrator

Fabregas is an ex Wenge scholar who gained istant success with Mascara and the dance Ya Mado, unlike Extra Musica the change of the songwriters and the musicians didn't effect at all Fabregas's success but he as well really changed his behaviour towards the ones who were his childhood friends and personal songwriters, first one of the guys of Ya Mado left along with the big girl doing the Mascara dance then the final cut came when Fabregas and Ibrator had that famous car discussion where Fabregas instantly kicked out Fabregas and basically created Ibrator and Adada movement which got very positive reviews by people of Congolese diaspora but got blocked in every way by Fabregas which is determined to kill every success of Ibrator
After this preview, I have only one question, why most Congolese leader can't stand to be with guys with personality?? Or guys who has the ball to say to them what is not going right? Why they think they should act like Gods for making things doing great as has been proven several times you need people compared the success of Mascara and the so called shame Zigida, compare Solola Bien and 7eme Jours De La Semaine, the success that Titanic had and the the Balle De Match project, album? That is still not out and Etat Major and Amnistie Shalai's album made by Roga Roga




Wow ..looks like you notice lot of things in congolese musuc ..lol anyway...When it comes to extra musica , are you  talking about extra musica zangul or bpbl, because papy jah and bastin were never  members of the the great original formation extra musica bpbl. Cadrer bien ba histoires na yo  ndeko.

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Congolese Music / LEADER ISSUES
« on: September 17, 2017, 12:00 »
I have noticed that in many stories of Congolese musicians there is a pattern who repeat his self, everytime someone goes solo basically starts to fire or kick away all the people that worked with him, except for Fally, Heritier, Robinio, and Brigade which are considered the "good guys" and the one who basically have the most shy employees, and Koffi who of course can't be put here since he has been a leader since ages, the guys who had multiple leader system at one time they decide to kick all the guys who are a threat to them even though the guys there don't even think or want to be leader.
Examples?



Werrason and Adolphe Dominguez:
In the Solola Bien project they were together and even though Dominguez even though was effectively a secind leader wasn't really respected by the members under the order of Werra  who feared to loose the leadership in fact after Solola Bien Adolphe Dominguez just left and disappeared from the radar of valuable Congolese musicians.


JB Mpiana & Mboka Liya
Since the departure of Blaise Bula and Alain Makaba JB was very anxious to proof he was the best between him and Werra so he released Titanic, even though Mboka Libya got a song, and got some very important influence under the new youngs Genta and Kaludji, JB treated him like shit by refusing to pay him while he was giving very good money to his "enfant Cherie" Seguin, Genta, Tutu Caludji, emo's favorite Kibens, making Mboka Liya runaway from Werra then tried to got solo byt never got success since every musician he had was "stolen" by JB


Extra Musica original formation (Herman Ngassaki, Arafat, Doudou Copa, Oxygen, Papy Bastin & Jah, Sonor & Espe Bass) & Roga Roga
Extra Musica is the only collective group left in Congo to be considered relevant, but his formation has changed, created originally by a group of church coral singing friends and then gaining success with their stunning generiques (Amnistie Shalai, Etat Major) at a certain point in the period of Obbligatoire since Sorcellerie/Kindoki Roga Roga leadership desires basically made erase all the work of his colleagues by acting harder on the colleagues since he took the full leadership only Sonor & Espe Bass left, the thing that makes you feel the change is the Mabanga's usually it was Oxygen, Doudoi Copa, Arafat, Kila Mbongo, Herman and so on, but now Roga leadership got the best of him the decision of making Roga singing was the worst decision Extra Musica ever took since now Extra Musica has became a very monotonous Rumba and Generique group there are a lot of groups came out from Extra Musica, the Doudou Copa's one is the one who is delivering the best music


And then the last one Fabregas
Fabregas & Ibrator

Fabregas is an ex Wenge scholar who gained istant success with Mascara and the dance Ya Mado, unlike Extra Musica the change of the songwriters and the musicians didn't effect at all Fabregas's success but he as well really changed his behaviour towards the ones who were his childhood friends and personal songwriters, first one of the guys of Ya Mado left along with the big girl doing the Mascara dance then the final cut came when Fabregas and Ibrator had that famous car discussion where Fabregas instantly kicked out Fabregas and basically created Ibrator and Adada movement which got very positive reviews by people of Congolese diaspora but got blocked in every way by Fabregas which is determined to kill every success of Ibrator
After this preview, I have only one question, why most Congolese leader can't stand to be with guys with personality?? Or guys who has the ball to say to them what is not going right? Why they think they should act like Gods for making things doing great as has been proven several times you need people compared the success of Mascara and the so called shame Zigida, compare Solola Bien and 7eme Jours De La Semaine, the success that Titanic had and the the Balle De Match project, album? That is still not out and Etat Major and Amnistie Shalai's album made by Roga Roga

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Congolese Music / Re: LOL, NOUVELLE DANSE "MA'PIANA PIA"
« on: September 17, 2017, 08:10 »
Lol they are only two people in the place

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Congolese Music / Re: NEWS about YOUYOU MOBANGUE
« on: September 17, 2017, 08:08 »
He is a rarity, one of the few atalakus leader who is not only surviving but is making good music and getting good money from it.

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Congolese Music / Re: FALLY IPUPA IS CONVINCED HE'S "THE GREATEST"
« on: September 16, 2017, 23:52 »
You are lucky I am cool in these days Fally I would have insult you in Instagram and in all the Social Media. Papa WNBA, Franco and Tabu are the ghost you need to chase if you wanna be the greatest and learn how to write songs

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Congolese Music / Re: O.O WHERE ALL THIS GOOD MUSIC CAME FROM
« on: September 15, 2017, 20:58 »
The STUPID son of Matete has real talent. Whenever you see new thing from him, you see the creativity. I wonder what Fally said when he saw this, sorry I don't mean polemic but in honest view he must have played twice.

Yes he is good and honestly Fally is too much relaxed to be caring about making good music, while Fabregas seems to have reached a level where he only makes good music no matter if it is from him or the group, the bad thing is that he loves creating polemique and being part of them, thing that he learnt from Werrason and especially from clan Wenge, now it is going good but you can see that the number of Fabregas are not the one of Mascara anymore and not only because he lost a little bit of explosivity but mainly because of the polemique, only guys over 40 like that stuff youngsters and people who will buy your record care more about your attitude, reason why Robinio despite the limited time in Wenge got an enormous success, and the same for Abraham which is the only guy Ex Wenge who is doing something relevantt

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