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« on: January 15, 2018, 21:13 »

« on: January 14, 2018, 11:01 »

Congolese Music / Re: WERRA AND HIS DARK SIDE
« on: January 13, 2018, 21:38 »
to be honest he is not the only one like that but he seems to be the most consistent in it
its parts of the codes of our music,sometimes things which happen pass from the big boss to somebody  then  the one who does the dirty job is  the 20 th person
leaders like to maintain some distance to those stuff as to look like they are angels
The crazy stuff, is they always get away with it, I wouldn't have known anything of Papa Wemba's dark side without this forum, andò forma the other leaders, I only speak about Werra because I am a huge Wenge fan, and I really hate how he destroyed what was one of the best group ever. All these dramas and stupid fight have really put Wenge back giving the opportunity to Fabro, Robinio, Fally, Ferre, Koffi and many other many advantages

« on: January 12, 2018, 19:53 »
And with somebody who knows werra's wife way longer than himself i fear some really embarassing stuff will be said if it continues
Walt Whaaaat?

« on: January 12, 2018, 16:57 »
Werra might be a good or a bad man, but what I have never wonderstood is the fact that he had never took position, starting from the money lost in a London tour for paying musician, continuing for the attack over Brigade's face made by Heritier, and going on with the Deplick 12 (douz) for finishing with the humiliation of Lobeso not only on the stage but throughout everyday's life (they were keep calling him villageois which means man of village but in a bad form like saying a guy who is from the jungle, only because he prefer to do mongo music over ndombolo one)
What is the reason that keeps Werra out.
I mean, since Wenge MM he never took any position in attacking anyone directly but only making people like Sankara and Kakol to defend him, and I can understand it, but what I don't understand is the fact that he have never took position, especially in the Brigade case, at the time Brigade was the biggest star in Wenge (way more than Heritier) and this is why Heritier did that, but Brigade said that when he told Werra everything, Werra were standing there like he was deaf and Brigade felt so much humiliated and disrespected he left.
The strange fact is that once Sankara unlikely most of the time he was there with an interviewer saying the bad thing Heritier had done since he left and so he started to say: "Heritier has never been a good kid to Werra he put pregnant, Mampata's sister, he threw that stone in the face of Brigade, the only guy that Werra is sad to have lost is Bill or Ferre" I don't remember what ye said on the end, but anyway I think it is more Bill than Ferre.
Anyway why Werra act like he was from Switzerland and act neutral? Without taking position on the band things his staff and his member does.

Congolese Music / Re: Hello
« on: January 12, 2018, 16:54 »
You are welcome pal :)

Actually no one, because, they always say we will make duet album and so on but it never happen

Poor kid, the only group left is Wazekwa's one and Heritier's one, even Fally's one but I see him more in Wata's one

« on: January 12, 2018, 08:53 »
Showcasing the key musicians and song variety(!) are things I've missed from Extra

Still don't like hearing "Extra Musica de Roga Roga" though.... reminds me instantly of how he screwed the other founders

It has been that way long before now. It has been since 1998 basically. I mean all the photos after Trop C'est Trop already indicated how controlling Roga Roga became. He did not become singer based really until 2002 then.

But only had Roga Roga not been so arrogant, he would have still had Herman who was the last one to be with him before he left in 2009.
How could Roga Roga could become so controlling from Trip C'Est Trop?
I mean they were still Oxygen, Espe Bass, Sonor, Herman, and other Co-Founders how could he became so dominant?

« on: January 12, 2018, 08:52 »
Sometimes I'm asking myself if the gouvernement isn't paying Congolese artists to do polemic. In order to distract the population. Because everytime of something big is about to happen against Kabila's regime, then suddenly Congolese artists start to beef very hard. Remember Koffi against JB Mpiana in 2014, Ferre against Koffi last year with that première soin and now this. Just at the moment that whe lost 48 people with the big flood in Kinshasa and all those people who lost their life on the 31th December with some being shot death in the church.
Probably yes, a distract population is easier to control.
In Italy for example, there are 10 millions of poor people and over 14 000 homeless people, with a lot of rich people not paying taxes and politicians who are corrupted and very friends with the Mafia (in fact when Fally wants to be the GodFather in ipotetical movies, I can't really understand him, because is not the best example on earth Italian mafia system) most of the young people with a little bit of talent and skills, since is hard to find job, leave for foreigners country.
But all the Italian people could care about, is soccer, it might seems a joke but is not..
Berlusconi got voted for 20 years because in Italian mentality he was fu**ing girls and was having the best football team in Europe, in fact towards the 2011 he got reflected only because he bought Robinio.
So yes, the more distracted is a population, the more easy is to control.
At least in Italy we can speak, we can protest (with the only thing that you don't have to search things against the mafia, if not you are getting killed no jokes) but Congolese people can't because as soon as they say something against the government here you go someone arresting them

« on: January 11, 2018, 20:16 »
most of them only  do music, in most groups the guys live their life on music and money from donors,there is only a handful of them who have private business outside music ficarre seguin gentamicine ali mbonda  for example
so technically either they leave to do solo career either they stay unless boss kicks them out or when groups were moving to europe they stay there

Guys please have respect for the dead people, even though is not the best human being ever but her mother cannot be involved in jokes and so on.
Archos what are the other businesses Ali Mbonda, Gemnta and Fi-Carre are in?

This one is underrated I prefer the first one then this one the second generique comes last

Me too I mean my favorite is the number one but this come ex-aequo with number three and yes is very underrated but I guess is due to the problem of mixing, very low volume and Mbonda cannot be heard in a right way


Again another very good song but not promoted well, because Fally wanted to give responsibility to his musician to promove it but himself at the beginning failed because the mix of the song is not good and is lower in confront of the other two generique.
The idea of bringing back the QL days putting them in the same pace of F'VICTEAM  worldwide

Great, the work he did with Kabuya is really a work of art, man I wish Congolese music could be global because it is thanks of Work of Art like this that Congolese musicians are respected

It seems almost like the bass is talking along with the Atalakus, only bassist with great skills and very good timing can do something like that

Nothing special like the first part but he goes with pace.

S.V. is what we say in Italy Senza Voto for representing someone that really didn't have the chance to perform and to get the vote, the mbonda are not even that much hearable how can I judge someone without his work there. Bad mixing.

Only names


Maan this guy is something magic he always does the perfect job outing a crie never come with senseless thing or crazy talks about sex always clean, smart and with a very strong religious background on the crie behind it.

8 and not 10 because togheter they did I a wonderful crie very great, with messages and thing that can help you indirectly but the other two for the ATALAKU#2 is only names and for GUELOR I guess he enjoys making senseless cries


Wow is great to see someone with that talent able to modify his voice that deeply being so young and in a natural way, it is craaazy, in #1 I gave him not the full vote but in this he deserves it I mean how can you not give him full vote he did an excellent job with that bada Madia etc.


In general a great song but ruined by the bad mixing who mined the success of the song who could been successful as the number 2 if it was for the bad mixing



Family Victory Team
Avec force {With force}
Libre Parcours {Free cours}
Gambain Samurai
Charlie Mabiala Tigre
Champion N'Djoly Sona eh
Fashu Bundula idolo

Ayemba pe abina yondima, yambal'oyo aye {he sang, he danced, you approved him, and this time he has arrived}

Allez abalayama moto 'a liboso asignaka allience na Nzamne
Fally DiCap oza yaya abalayamayako wowo
Tchuba ye moroke Maître Yaya Ngani
(Akweia na tatami) {Abalayama is the first guy who have signed an allience with God, Fally DiCap you are Yaya abalayamayako wowo, pierce him moroke, Maître Yaya Ngani (He will fall on the tatami)}
Tchuba ye moroke Pitchou Sobaya
(Akweia na tatami) {Pierce him moroke Pitchou Sobaya(He will fall on the tatami)}
Basioya, bafinga, batonda ba nzoto ba liaka kaka
Kumikata alekoshi mushimata
(Akweia na tatami) {They've dissed, they've insulted, getting greedy with the spark from their insults towards us and they are still eating, kumikata alekoshi mushimata (He will fall on the tatami)}
Allez lelilelelelilelelelilele
(Akweia na tatami) {huuh lelilelelelilelelelilele(He will fall on the tatami)}
Aaa Tchuba Ye moroko Maître Manix Mwanya
(Akweia na tatami) {Pierce him moroko, Mâitre Manix Mwanya (he will fall on the tatami)}
Beta ye moroke {Beat him with moroke}

Ya Fally Dicap tangisa ban'oyo namiziki nabango
Ae mozob'a ko longwa
Tindika {Elder DiCap school this kids on their own music the dumbness of leaving, push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Tindika {Push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten)
Yannick Nkreme kolembete
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Allez, tindika {Com on, push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Gavin Kazeka kulembete
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Allez, Tindika {Come on push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Olivier Mboyo tindika {Olivier Mboyo push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Tindika {push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will ne beaten kid)

Balibili limbondo balibili limbondo balibili limbondo lolenge nyekese, libili limbondo niyoko tumbamakasi boye mama e
Yaya tindika {elder push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)

Tindika {Push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Gina Mita kulembete
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Allez, tindika {Come on push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Yaya tindika {Elder push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Tindika {Push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Fabis Sembe kulembele
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Tindika {push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)
Richer Ler Mbemba tindika {Richer Ler Mbemba push}
(Oko zwa mwana) (You will be beaten kid)


Abeta pe tobina tomona yambal'oyo aye
Félix Tyson, Félix Tyson beta beta beta beta be {He played, We've danced and we have seen, but this time he has arrived, Félix Tyson, Félix Tyson, play play play pla}

Mbadimame mbadimame yankidi obaba o
Mbadimame lekia
Mbadimame yankidi
Ozalaka nayo moko {Alas mother alas mother o father alas lil bro, woe is me}
(Ye Moko) (Alone)
Ye moko {Alone}
(Ye moko) (Alone)
Dédé mubengo saki aloso {Dédé mubengo bag of rice}
(Ye Moko) (Alone)
Ye moko {Alone}
(Ye moko) (Alone)
Eeeee Fally DiCap yoka
Yowowoo Mama Makese na nga
Tango bajaloux balukaki nga Dicap, ba témoins bazalaki
Tango bato nyonso balanda yo
Ozalaka no yo moko {Uuuuuuh Fally DiCap listen, wowoo Mother Makesa of mine, when the jealous were looking for me DiCap there were testifies, when all the people started to follow  you, you were poorly alone}
(Ye moko) (Alone)
Ye moko {Alone}
(Ye moko) (Alone)
Allez tshubela maman come on
Tshubel'enge tshubele maman come on e {Come on pierce him mother come on pierce him with piece mom come on}
Tshubele mama come on e
Tshubel'enge Tshubele mama come on e {Pierce him mother come on e pierce him with Pierce come on e}
Ozalaka nayo moko {You were poorly alone}

Allez nga na yo ya libela Nzambe el marabillosho {Come on, me and you forever God the wonderful}
Nga nayo nalibela Nzambe Pamela Dubaï oo {Me and you forever God Pamela Dubaï oo}
Allez tshuku tshuku toko bouge
Eric Lakase akobina {Come on tshuku tshuku we will move Eric Lakase will dance}
Didier Nteko na Türkiye {Didiee Nteko in Turkey}
Papy Benis ako bouge
Tony Zope Santer Jese Mbenge Mbenze mignon {Papy Benis will move Tony Zope Santer Jese Mbenge Mbenze cutie pie}

Allez Iseke mwana iseke mwana polokosomosikadile, allez iseke mwana iseke mwana polokosomosikadile toke {Come on watch out kid watchout kid beacyse the greediness won't get you anywhere/the greediness will not make you go far,  come on watch out kid watch out kid because the greediness won't get you anywhere/the greediness will not make you go far}
Ndeke bapanzi nzala, ndeke bapanzi nzala, ndeke bapanzi nzala, bapanzi nzala, bapanzi nzalee {the birds have hungry  hips, the birds have hungry hips the birds have hungry hips, have hungry hips, have hungry hips}

I i i i Gisette Kasima i i i

Kaki Yajawe Balandaki Ya Fally nabana ngube  bana ngub'e {Kaki Yajawe they have chased Fally with little peanuts, with littlepeanuts}
(Aaa shide) (Ooh Shit)
Arthur Molo Koyelana  na bana ngube {Arthur Molo Koyelana with little peanuts}
(AA shide) (Ooh Shit)
Margarine Clementine wo
(AA shide) (Ooh Shit)
Eric Mandala oooo balandaki Ya Fally na bana ngube, Lolo Kayisee {Eric Mandala ooo they have chased Fally with little peanuts, Lolo Kayise}
(AA shide) (Ooh shit)
Aaah Junior Mpiana na nga ba ndeku maaaa {Aah my own Junior Mpiana the forefathers maa}
(AA shide) (Oo Shit)

Eh mama e, Dieu ma Sauvez oyoyo {Oh motheeer, God saved me yoyo}
Dieu ma sauvez oyoyo {God saved me yoyo}
Dieu ma sauvez oyoyo Fabrice Mampuya na George Liyeyi {God saved me yoyo Fabrice Mampuya and George Liyeyi}
Naty Lokole na Papy Mboma {Naty Lokole and Papy Mboma}
E botika Fally alimbisi mwan'oyo {Get off of Fally/Leave Fally alone, because he has forgave this children}
(O Yesu e) (Oh Jesus)
Namelaki bazododo ba whisky nazwaki eloko te {I used to drink Zododo and whisky without nothing received back/without nothing in return}
(O Yesu e) (Oh Jesus)

Aa Dieux ma sauvez oyoyo {Aa God saved me yoyo}
Dieux ma guerir yoyo {God healed me yoyo}
Kabuya badia badia yoyo da {Kabuya to eat to eat yoyo finished}

Wallo Bass Alfe Lilope {Wallo Bass Alfe Lilope}
A badia bata nonono {Hmm to eat to eat nonono}
Kabuya azongeli kobwaka {Kabuya now came back to just doing the atalaku/came back to singing/came back to perform}
(O Yesu) (O Jesus)
Namelaki bazododo na whisky nazuaki eloko te {I used to drink zododo and whisky and I had nothing in return}
(O Yesu e) (Oh Jesus)
Christian Luyabaaa Willy Likayi
(O Yesu e) (Oh Jesus)
Dieu ma sauvez oyoyo {God saved me oyoyo}
Dieu ma guerir oyo {God healed me yoyo}
Suleimani Kavunga na nga {My own Suleimani Kavunga}
Abadi ngabadia
Abadia mada madia mada abadia abada mut'a {to ea- I want to eat to eat, to go up the food to go up to eat to ea-the head}

Jolly Kimwangi abongoli motema {Jolly Kimwangi has opened his heart/now has a soft heart}
(O Yesu e) (Oh Jesus)
Papy Zavane abongoli motema {Papy Zavane has opened his heart/ now has a soft eheart}
(O Yesu e) (Oh Jesus)
Sango nabiso  tojangi na Saint-Felix na nga
Oh Ye Shot Record {Oh Je-Shot record}

Shot Record {Shot Record}

The song is a mixture of QL period and an expirement of bringing that abobolais d'oriengo back.
Fally loved that Abobolais a lot especially on the period of post Droit Chemin
Man this guy Identite really delivering some serious dimes, the he played you have danced you have approved, followed by the he have played you have danced you have approved, is referred first to Fally and then to Felly Tyson, the Fally part it is referring to the constant success Fally has been doing since his first and now the he has arrived is referred to the fact that the position of leader is cemented by the fact he gave his group the first group album, thing only big leaders do.
For the Félix part it is referred to all the work he had done throughout the QL period, in fact in memory of those days Felly plays in a "QL" way and Fally danced in a classical "Koffi" style.
Abalayama is a crie that speak about religion especially the Christian one since in the Bible, like the episode of Abraham and Isaac or the episode with Noah and his Arc and many other episodes there are a lot of examples where God signed alliance in a way or another with his people, unfortunately, the jews are known in world as the "blessed" people of God but in Congo especially Kimbanguiste and Bakongo claim they are them, and this is the reason why many bad things happened to African people and especially Congolese, with that said, this crie is made to counter all the people who always claim that Congolese musician with big success they definitely went to see some witch and are possessed by demon since the crie says Abalayama is the first guy who really signed alliance with God (Before of Noah, before of Abraham and so on) and then he adds Fally you are Yaya Abalayama for saying that between the musicians like the biblical heroes he has been the first musician ever to be blessed in this way since he is the first after Koffi, Werra and all the people who came earlier and marked Congolese music (Franco, Tabu, Papa Wemba, Bozi, Emeneya), then he continue the sentences adding in Karate which is purely a defensive art, there is a common thing that unifies all the Karateka the respect for the opponent, no matter how small or big or strong or weak you are you always respect your opponent, but at the same time the opponent of Identite falls every time on the tatami no matter how much time he tries to bounce back, is the metaphor that Fally has mad respect for every guy in the game, but even though he is not a guy into polemic and all that he will always finish to tear you down if you try to challenge him because he might not be the best or the worst guy around but it will find a way to attack you since he is the guy who signed alliance with God, and has his blessings Yaya stands for elders, a guy who is bigger then you, gotta be called Yaya or Ya especially with your older Brothers or Sisters, in fact it is a massive sign of disrespect calling your big brother or big sister with only her name who will lead to massive beatings, I rarely use the Yaya since I an Angolan I use a lot Mano/Manu which is for mans and Mana with the women.
Basioyia Bafinda Batonda banzoto baliaka kaka, means that they had  money, food, and gifts over some silly insults and  they are now greedy because they have already all they needed over insulting people, but even though they are full they are still eating.
A clear reference to the spokesman, who only become  popularwhen they start to insult the opponent of their own leader like Sankara and many others

Elder Fally DiCap school this kids on their own music the dumbness of leaving is referring to all the guys who left orchestras for following the same pace of Fally by going solo but failed miserably with their career destroyed but that at the same time couldn't go back to their own leaders because with mozoba (dumbness) they thought they were better that their own leaders and started dissed them, missing respect thinking they could live well without them, or the guys who left being dumb because they kinda throw themselves in an empty space, since they really didn't know how to make things work without their leaders backing them.
That is when the intelligent part of the crie ends and it starts the crazy one
He literally says push and you will get a baby, but can be even seen as push me and you will be beaten kid which I translated with, but seing the movement is obviously the sane crie who talks about sex over and over again
I have already spoke about the Identite crie about going solo and being the only guy there ('victeam-(lyrics-and-explanation)/ )
But in this crie Identite addictions Tshubel'enge which can be seen if you see it as a Kikongo word as Bring him peace but since Identite has very religious message sometimes I think it is only an advice of making peace.

Me and you forever God The wonderful
The wonderful as Fally fans know is not referred to Fally as Fally like to nicknamed himself various names with the last one THE GOAT (Greatest Of All Time originally used for Alì and MJ) being very annoying to a lot of guys in the forum me included, the word God many times is used as something that shocks, or get you excuted, since religious life is a very important part of most of the Congolese people (like God!! I've finallly found a job, God!!! I am very excited to travel and so on) and in this crie Atalaku #2 (sorry but I can't remember his name) said that he will stay forever with Fally no matter what, what surprised me most of the crie is the extreme quantities of Mabanga since except saying me and you forever Fally the crie is only mabanga.
The next crie in feature with Guelore is in very strict lingala and a bit of Kikongo with the classical French word allez and said watch out kid because the greediness won't get you anywhere, in fact being greedy usually doesn't bring you in any place the more greedy you are the less you receive in exchange, the more good you are the more you received and the people will start to love you, the crie is made in a classical place where the Koko (Grandpas literally but can be seen as guys with a wisdom straightly made by living life and by listening to their time to the Kokos of that time) advice the kid or the nephew some advices to live a perfect life and avoid the mistakes that guy with no guidance usually do, the theme of BoKoko as I said in Libre Parcours#1 it is very consistent, even Anti-Balle in Se Na Se says that (You uneducated/rude kid who is used to insult older guys/girls if they fire back and give you a malediction you will be seriously be hit) because in Congo there is absolutely no way you can talk over a bigger guy or talk back in impolite way with the elders, older guys are madly respected.
Then they goes the birds have hips who feel the hunger, because the association is simple, the birds usually don't have thin body the way that healthy humans do, no if a bird is in health you will see him a little fat, while if you see a skinny bird it means that his hips are hungry, the hips are hungry because he didn't listen to the advice the older where gave him in this case Mother bird, so for avoid being like the bird who have his hips who are hungry follow the advice and don't be a big headed.
Guelor there lol, on the first part I didn't get anything of what Guelor were saying, but now I got it and it is puuure senseless
They have chased elder Fally with some little peanuts little peanuts oh Shit.

Kabuya naleli aaaa, this guy is so much talented with that rough voice of his, the great fact about this third version of this crie is the fact that there is a different digression and progression of guitar compared to the main generique #1, and #2 this type of progression is usually made to a crie that is repeated throughout the album (mainly the crie who in the mind of leader will have most success) almost like a challenge for the musicians, usually the progression is the same notes but with an higher key like Felly did with the notes of Dieux M'a Sauvez but surprisingly instead of following the guitar and going higher, Kabuya did an excellent job of going lower ( this work is great especially in rosendan towards the end when he says something in Tshiluba and saying it goes even lower) I bet that his guy did little effort to do this kind of games vocally and is always a regret if you think how it ended with Fally, Felix also did a great job (except the abobolais part where the guitar part hasn't been played) to play Quarter Latin style on the crie who are in #1,#2 and on the crie new for libre parcours work of art.

just a quick question to grand pretre Manzambi94 ,How Old are you  Sir ?
Hey thanks man :) I am 23 and this year I will turn 24.
that's why you put 94 in your pseudo
Yes :)

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