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Congolese Music / Re: CELEO ATTACKS KOFFI AND FALLY
« on: Today at 13:41 »
Celeo is hypocritical, yes, but he has right, Koffi went too much far, anyway I am sick of this polemic, Congolese musicians don't have to always act like some gossip queen's Italian ladies these are the bs who are leaving us behind, do you Korean artist getting jealous of Psy? Or Latin people getting jealous of Luis Fonsi? Ferre has every right in this world

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Eventi Sai Sai and Pululu created some awesome cries which has been inglobated by the big groups (Obala the obota, Zambole Zoma etc.)
For Werra I never wonderstood his obsession to prove everyone he can does his own things without anyone to be honest without Bill, Celeo, Ferre, Kakol, Japonais and later Kapaya I don't know where Werra could have been now, he was the "worst" singer in Wenge but had a good voice then since Solola bien he started to loose the voice and being known for the gemerique, I mean even on 7 hours name me a Rumba he made that has been successful...
I study history and the reason for a lot of empire Fall is the fact that guys like Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini etc. Never listened to the people who advice them, they always wanted to do their own way, Hitler thought he was invicibke and attacked Russia and started to loose oices and  lostthe war and the entire Germany, so Werra should stop feeling untouchable and hear the advices of his musicians instead of always bring yesmans like Sankara, Yanki Mpui (RIP), Kakol and so on to win, I mean 7 Jours kinda restabilized the career of Werra, but we all know how bad Decollage got received and his Satellite flopped except for Satellite and Ingredients generiques

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Regarding the house, you have to remember Werrason is secretly Jewish  ;D (A joke I heard from a friend trying to justify his cheapness and inability to properly compensate loyal people)
Gos sooo stingy, I remember Bill immortalized his stringiness, in a crime "Mais nakoma na Rond-point 'a Kintambo bana balobi bazo Lita the ah Ya Bill eee"

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if you listen for example to yanki in his lives he always insisted several times that werra wanted to prove some of the musicians who think they are the ones who are making werra's career so he sang that much to remind them that its his group
and ever since heritier's last days in maison mere there was always a theory of conspiracy to create a rebel group also so werra postponed the original project of solo album which was arche de noe to do the 7 jours one and surprise musicians who thouht they'd fool him once again in doing 14 vocals or so each on album and leave on that hype
This time I am on Werra side and for Celeo's passport he took it back?
And for Kapaya why Werra didn't give him a house? He is not poor and Kapaya is one of the Arte fix of success of Wenge and for Kakol and Heritier attacking Celeo SMH Heritier left too so...
I remember an interview of Kapaya where he was presenting his album saying since I left, I am no longer with drugs or some like that

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Congolese Music / Re: Is it true that they arrested Ferre Gola ?
« on: November 21, 2017, 19:58 »
I will not say anything because you know what I think of the guy who never grows up, but for the things he had done, I only can say that that guy needs to be stopped somehow, he thinks he is God and I am not saying because I am a hater but I say it because it is like that, he started the beef and policemen's aren't they over the DRC government? It is not possible that ausician can put other people under custody

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Congolese Music / Re: ANOTHER GOLDEN DISC FOR FALLY
« on: November 20, 2017, 19:39 »
Oh, streams kiekie.  I was thinking the Tokooos album went gold. Congrats
Kkkkkk lol, albums are not this popular these days.

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Congolese Music / Re: ALL WHITE RECREATE PAPA WEMBA YOLELE
« on: November 20, 2017, 19:38 »
Eminem is one of the best though you guys don't like to give him credit because he is white he's one of the most well respected rappers of all time a lot of the legends in the rap game give him credit yeah some of his beats are trash but there's no denying what he's done he's also one of the greatest battle rappers ever if he was black everyone would say he was one of the goats
Please French Montana is a fool he needs featurings to survive
CM we are not saying M in M is wack but that him like many other white people stole something not theirs, the same thing that happened in South Africa white people now have the banks, and the economical power who was once of black people, even though South African economy is doing fine no one can deny what price that economy had.
For making another example why Kendrick Lamar is not showcased the way Eminem were? Kendrick is way more better than Eminem in his lyrics (Control is a superb example of that) but outside of America only the appassionati of Rap knows him, the other people refers to him as a coloured rapper here in Italy while when Eminem was making serious music he were everywhere, the Rap Eminem did towards Trump in this year Cypher has been headlining to the news in Italy but I have never seen the same news focusing on the 8 Grammy's the Drake diss in the news, there will always be a double standard, like when PAC was alive he was targeted as a criminal, as a crackhead and so on, by the white media and became a superstar only after his death, the only guy white people respected is Michael Jackson

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Yeah it's always a pleasure listening to his interviews he's right over the ferre koffi thing it's something a lot deeper then the mabanga thing which is a shame lol he killed me with the Guinness book of world records comment kiekie
So what is the real reason behind Ferrè and Koffi feud?

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Congolese Music / Re: Koffi Olomide showing his house
« on: November 20, 2017, 12:26 »
^ lol, Franco was the biggest African vedette of the 70's-80's. No African artist will ever be as big as he was. He was getting golden discs and Maracas d'or award when such things were unheard of for DRC artists. He even got an honorary citizen award from the city of Atlanta, GA when he came to the US.

That song, Kimpa Kisangameni scared everyone (myself included) when they first heard it, then people grew accustomed to it. All his releases were the talk of the town, in the 80's especially

I still don't understand why the European press portreted Papa Wemba as the Greatest Congolese Artist ever. While Luambo Makiadi and Tabu Ley had done more in their music-career than him.
Maybe because Wemba had more albums and song in France + duet with French artist unlike Franco who was more "ethnic"

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Congolese Music / Re: ALL WHITE RECREATE PAPA WEMBA YOLELE
« on: November 20, 2017, 12:22 »
I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT THIS LOVELY MUSIC WILL BE STOLEN BY THE WEST. DON KELLER PRODUCTIONS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
Black music and African music has been stolen by white people since ages, Eminem & Macklemore in Rap that Elvis for Rock'n'Roll plus AC/DC, Nirvana and all those bands, and for African music you are seeing with French Montana, and many European artist who steal African music and then pretend is theirs

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Congolese Music / Re: What did Fabregas say in this interview
« on: November 20, 2017, 11:51 »
in short he says he is the same guy that years ago but  people are jealous of him so they try to portray him as a bad guy and that he is  against polemic he is peaceful guy who just wants to talk about music but still in the same interview threw shots at koffi,fally,ferre,carine mokonzi,ibrator,robinio then still mentioned he is a fan of koffi ,fally and co
he is basically saying things and its opposite minutes after which is why many of the comments are saying he is the most hypocritical of our artists
Wow even to Robinio at least he didn't speak about his ex best friend Deplick, what is the reason of all this hate towards other people especially to Koffi who us basically the artist behind the success of Fabregas (do you remember how he was nobody after his first album? With that generique with Kimbangu

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Congolese Music / Re: BOB AND GRACE
« on: November 19, 2017, 20:08 »
Wait what? How can the situation of Zimbabwe could came through just for a woman?

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Lokolo is my favourite Fabregas and his ex pal Ibrator make really some good music especially for generique Ibrator more rumbas.
If it wasn't for the big shame (Zigida) I would have bought the album, anyway Lokolo is my favourite ilthey were ages I hadn't heard something like that no guitar just traditional vibes

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Congolese Music / Re: Is the time of long generics over ?
« on: November 19, 2017, 19:39 »
Is the time of long generics over ? The trend started after the succes of Werrason's Alerte Generale with everybody from Kinshasa wanting to record generics of more than 10 minutes. The trend of on his peak with the succes of Sous Sol. Then Werrason came with the Malewa-concept, which was recording 2 versions for a generic, one sebene-version (mecanique) and one coupe decale-version (automatique). In the hope to counter the Coupe Decale-virus. The succes of Folklore-bands, DJ's based in Kinshasa & Brazzaville made some artists even record generics without the lead-guitar. The trend came to a end, with the succes of Fally Ipupa's Original and the succes of Fabregas's Mascara made people bash Werrason's Decollage of Fleche Ingeta with people being fed of generics who were longer than 10 min and suffering a little bit of inferiority complex, due to Trace Urban-music channel.














Unfortunately yes, Congolese people were sick of seeing Congolese music being less famous than Decals and so they ssk end to produce short generique so the songs could be more  catchy internationally, and mostly because of complexes, since a loto f Congolese people don't want even to listen Congolese music or if they do they want that it conforms to the Radio European standards (3 minutes), after that trend very few people started to make long generiques, I remember that Koffi with Selfie did a short generique the same with JB (Balle De Match) now there is a trend of not making long generique, not too much long and neither too much short but in the middle like Lokplo, Diemba, Charge, NYATAQUAMCE, Elok'Oyo, Boss, and many others, and it is sad because what people and especially Congolese people need to understand is that Congolese music is not European or American and you listen it for dancing not to sing it in fact the generique are lead by cries with dances and not vocals like Rumbas if you try to think like this you will find even 10 minutes for a generique short, because checking Se Na She you have this cries: Esi Ekomi, Ils Faut Ekota, Mama Mampata Mama Pasteur, Se Na Se, Osali Mabe, Nzungu Na Moto, Mwana Empoli/Kangula Ngai and then again Se Na Se but clicked as one cries for every atalaku except for Se Na Se if you analyze it like this of course you will think is too much but if you are in the dancefloor you just dance you don't think about the words you go and dance that is what is Congolese music about dancing, not hitting the radios or making views, if you take JB's Kiyunguzuna the same, a lot of cries: Debut Congolais, Police, Matondi, Kokodioko, Papa Cherie Aye, Tchuba Ye Ntshonga, Ba Zo Koka The, that tribal cries where they sing in Tshiluba I guess, a loto f cries but Kiyunguzuna is one of the best generique of Papa Cherie because you dance, and to be honest, yes Diemba has almost 1.5 million but can you imagine how much views Werra could have got with Se Na Se? All the song that you have mentioned in the post mvulusi are great except for some pieces of Decolage, because this is why we have guitars synthesis, ngongi, clavier, marimba, mbonda etc. For making people dance now a days or rumbas are longer than generique SMH

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Congolese Music / ANOTHER GOLDEN DISC FOR FALLY
« on: November 19, 2017, 13:35 »
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbmH4amDs5Y/
Bad boy this time, we can say everything for Fally but I have to give him credit, his doing work, it is important because Congolese people are starting to get known again are started to winning awards and breaking barriers again

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